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Royal Marine Found Guilty of Murder

  • 08-11-2013 07:33PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭


    Royal Marine Guilty Of Murdering Afghan Fighter
    A Royal Marine has been found guilty of murdering an Afghan fighter, who had been seriously wounded by an Apache attack helicopter.
    A court martial in Bulford, Wiltshire, found that the serviceman - known only as Marine A - shot the insurgent, who was armed with an AK47, in the chest with a 9mm pistol in Helmand Province more than two years ago.
    Two other Marines - referred to as Marines B and C - were acquitted.
    All will remain anonymous until the court martial or a judge decides otherwise.
    The three men had denied murdering the unknown captured Afghan national on or about September 15, 2011, contrary to Section 42 of the Armed Forces Act 2006.
    But a seven-strong board, consisting of officers and non-commissioned officers, convicted Marine A following a two-week trial.
    Marine A shot the Afghan national in the chest at close range before quoting a phrase from Shakespeare as the man convulsed and died in front of him.
    "There you are. Shuffle off this mortal coil, you ****. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us," Marine A told the insurgent.
    He then turned to comrades and said: "Obviously this doesn't go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention."
    The insurgent's body was left where he died and was later taken by locals, who erected a memorial in its place. No post-mortem was conducted.
    The killing came to light as it was filmed by a camera mounted on the helmet of Marine B.
    Judge Advocate General Jeff Blackett ruled that the graphic video footage cannot be released, but agreed that the audio could be made public.
    The video, which was played to the court, shows Marine A walking forward, bending down, and shooting the man at close range in the centre of his chest.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1165881/royal-marine-guilty-of-murdering-afghan-fighter


    Glad they have charged him with murder, and hopefully he will be made an example of to deter soldiers taking things into their own hands and creating their own laws, though I have no doubt that throughout the armed forces, things like this may happen regularly.

    And quoting Shakespeare? Who is this guy?

    Mod: On phone here so would you mind putting the text into quote boxes. Cheers


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Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    "There you are. Shuffle off this mortal coil, yooouu slaaaaaag"


  • Site Banned Posts: 257 ✭✭Driveby Dogboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    They obviously knew the camera was on one of their helmets so what was the guy thinking . Firstly shooting him and then admitting breaking the geneva convention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Brainwash kids to kill and them prosecute them for it.

    Hypocrisy of the highest order.

    Geneva convention my hole.

    All war is criminal imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Brainwash kids to kill and them prosecute them for it.

    Hypocrisy of the highest order.

    Geneva convention my hole.

    All war is criminal imo.

    And all possessions are theft.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I thought someone had fallen down the stairs in the hotel in dun laoghaire or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Brainwash kids to kill and them prosecute them for it.





    All war is criminal imo.

    Agree, but illegal killing is another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Really smart guys filming the whole thing :rolleyes: But I suppose they did shoot themselves in the foot so one guys mistake is another ones gain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I blame computer games

    the likes of mario kart and kirby's dreamland, sick shyte


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    And all possessions are theft.

    Putting the poor Afghan out of his misery sure?, should be awarded a medal really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Its a war against terror and the Royal Marines are trained to kill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Charged with murder for shooting a fella armed with an Ak47 who'd possibly supports the throwing of acid into the faces of school girls etc.

    Bit much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I'm surprised they didn't call the 'Afghan Fighter' a 'terrorist'.

    The soldier will do a few months and then probably get to pick up where he left off - I mean, it was only a brown foreigner he killed at the end of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭mewe


    Charged with murder for shooting a fella armed with an Ak47 who'd possibly supports the throwing of acid into the faces of school girls etc.

    Bit much.

    Cop on man. That post is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Not very bright soldiers, sadly. Firstly they thought the Geneva Convention applies, which it doesn't. Secondly the presence of a camera.

    I dearly hope this guy gets the minimum punishment possible. He is a soldier in a battle field, sent to war to kill or be killed. He should not have shot the terrorist murderer, but at the same time we cannot send these men into battle and expect their mentality not to be affected and for them to behave like it's a walk on a beach. If it were me, I hope I would have been smarter and I would certainly have considered the same action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I'll take the original from Jeff Buckley's auld fella (who also died in his 20s)...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    mewe wrote: »
    Cop on man. That post is ridiculous.

    Cop on yourself and live in the real world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    I'm surprised they didn't call the 'Afghan Fighter' a 'terrorist'.

    The soldier will do a few months and then probably get to pick up where he left off - I mean, it was only a brown foreigner he killed at the end of the day.


    Sky News said last night that the video wasn't released in case it could be used as "terrorist propaganda".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    The daily mail and British right are going nuts over this, sort of in denial and in a mantra "of our british boys can do no wrong" sort of thing.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm surprised they didn't call the 'Afghan Fighter' a 'terrorist'.

    The soldier will do a few months and then probably get to pick up where he left off - I mean, it was only a brown foreigner he killed at the end of the day.

    You cynic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Cop on yourself and live in the real world.

    Real world?, as in shooting a dying man at point blank range and quoting Shakespeare as you do it?, that sorta realism is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭mewe


    Cop on yourself and live in the real world.

    Thanks for the advice. Your previous post shows your reasoning is worth heeding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    The daily mail and British right are going nuts over this, sort of in denial and in a mantra "of our british boys can do no wrong" sort of thing.
    Also known as Joe Hart Syndrome. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Sky News said last night that the video wasn't released in case it could be used as "terrorist propaganda".

    Lol yeah, as if the sight of foreign troops in the desert isn't enough for these guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Charged with murder for shooting a fella armed with an Ak47 who'd possibly supports the throwing of acid into the faces of school girls etc.

    Bit much.

    There are Rules of Engagement, you can't just apply an opinion to the situation and say he was right. Though would we have done something similar in the same situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,481 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    The daily mail and British right are going nuts over this, sort of in denial and in a mantra "of our british boys can do no wrong" sort of thing.

    They are? I must have missed that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    mewe wrote: »
    Cop on man. That post is ridiculous.

    not as ridiculous as assuming people should be well behaved on a battlefield.
    like ffs they're trying to kill each other and then 2 mins later it's like "oh treat him with respect" It strikes me as a bit odd the powers that be get outraged when somebody goes off the reservation cos it's pretty much human nature.

    that is the savagery of war.

    Not to mention the Taliban are noted for treating their captive by the Geneva convention.

    but hey ho - let throw rocks from our ivory tower.

    I'm not saying it was right , but it's understandable and should be treated like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭mewe


    not as ridiculous as assuming people should be well behaved on a battlefield.
    like ffs they're tryingt to kill each other and then 2 mins later it's like "oh treat him with respect" It strikes me as a bit odd the powers that be get outraged when somebody goes off the reservation cos it's pretty much human nature.

    that is the savagery of war.

    Not to mention the Taliban are noted for treating their captive by the Geneva convention.

    but hey ho - let throw rocks from our ivory tower.

    I'm not saying it was right , but it's understandable and should be treated like that.

    Hold on a minute. Who assumed people should be well behaved on the battlefield? Not me.

    I was simply calling that post ridiculous, which it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Sky News said last night that the video wasn't released in case it could be used as "terrorist propaganda".

    Sky news has principles.......:D

    I wish it would apply the same to much of the other biased cr*p it broadcasts as news?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    Do you have a link to the article OP?


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