Tesco price match Lidl&Aldi

snubbleste · 02-11-2013 09:36PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Havent been back to this thread in a few weeks, .......

The thread is only nine days old

JONJO THE MISER · 02-11-2013 09:37PM

brokenarms wrote: »

Big players like Tesco, Aldi, Asda and so on give a price per product, what taste they want and how they want it to look.

The fact is, that this pie was made in the same factory that every other pie for every other supermarket.

Who told you that crap, Aldi and Lidl do not have the same suppliers as tesco or Dunnes.

Lissavane · 02-11-2013 09:38PM

PeterDuggan wrote: »

Yeah what Tesco are sorta saying is... "OK Aldi and Lidl are cheaper than us. We admit it. But if you come shop with us anyway ...and prove that we're more expensive than them ...we'll give you a voucher ...to force you to come shop with us again." :rolleyes:

You've just summed up the debate in one post. Well done!

You don't address the quality but the majority consensus is that Aldi and Lidl is superior to Tesco.

brokenarms · 02-11-2013 09:47PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Who told you that crap, Aldi and Lidl do not have the same suppliers as tesco or Dunnes.

On some products. NOT all
Beef and other products are traceable back to source which are the same people who supply Tesco and Lidl aldi and other supermarkets. Im sure you have heard of Silvercrest by now.

Your manner sucks a little. You should chill out a bit. It's only shopping.

Media999 · 02-11-2013 10:29PM

handlemaster wrote: »

They really think consumers are stupid

That is actually their market. People who fall for consumer psychological tricks like same size box as the premium brand but half the contents.

Problem is they've pushed it too far now and people have kopped on to their BS. In steps the Germans and wipe them out. Fortunately.

Lissavane · 02-11-2013 10:36PM

brokenarms wrote: »

Im sure you have heard of Silvercrest by now.

Ah, go on, tell us more about silvercrest. I'm sure you're yearning to do so!

Lissavane · 02-11-2013 10:44PM

brokenarms wrote: »

Your manner sucks a little. You should chill out a bit. It's only shopping.

You know what - it's not "only shopping". It's a public health matter and it involves the food that we injest.

The_Conductor · 02-11-2013 11:05PM

The Narrator wrote: »

Thought this sounded a bit strange.

Apparently there is a company in Cavan (Lakeland Dairies) producing HB here and 2 Walls Ice Cream factories in the UK.
I might be wrong as I only did vague research, so apologies if so.

Would have thought that Tesco bringing in UK produced products would mean less production of those products here and less Irish jobs overall.
If there's no need for products to be produced here, there no need for the factories or jobs.

Yes- the original HB factory was next door to Nutgrove Shopping Centre in Dublin- it closed back in 2003- a victim of people's changing taste for different icecream products. Unilever packaged its 16 different icrecream businesses into a umbrella company called (coincidentally) HB (standing for Heart Brands- the original Irish HB was named after a dairy run by the Hughes Brothers near Dundrum in Dublin- subsequently split into the icecream business HB and the dairy business (Premier milk- which obviously survives to this day).

HB Ireland has a number of unique brands- which Unilever outsourced after competitve tender to Lakeland Dairies in Bailieborough, Cavan (most notably the pint block of Hazelbrook Farm icecream). Some of the brands (such as Iceberger sandwiches and dairy cups- are made by a dairy in Northern Ireland). Walls in Northern Ireland was renamed HB Walls- and carrys both the Irish and UK brands- Walls is the UK branch of the family- also the offshoot of a 1920s dairy farm in its own right.

Some products are still produced in Ireland (notably the aforementioned Hazelbrook farm icecream blocks)- but some are brought in from the UK- and many of the ice pops / Calipo type products- are made by another Unilever subsidiary (Ola) in Portugal, for sale all over Europe.

Walls- itself, as a brand- has been in a long decline over the last decade- both as a result of an onslaught by Nestle and some of their brands (notably Rowntree but also Lyons Maid), however the 'own-brand' supermarket sales have gutted the core of their business.

Unilever are the dominant icecream supplier throughout Europe- and try to specialise in different products produced in particular locations- alongside, unique country specific offerings that occasionally are launched internationally. The closure of Nutgrove- was a result of it being too big for the Irish market- but too small for the European market- especially in light of the change in consumer preferences for alternate products. When HB closed- 184 jobs were lost- 170 directly in the production of icecream- and a further 14 jobs upstream.

If you buy a block of Hazelbrook farm icecream in Tesco- it comes all the way from Bailieborough in Cavan. If you buy a Vienetta- it comes from Glouster in England. If you buy a multipack box of Calipo ice pops- they come from Portugal. If you buy a multipack of nutty cornettos- they come from the UK. If you buy a multipack of strawberry cornettos- they come from Spain........... I could go on and on.........

Its a sad part of multinational corporations.

Now- if only they'd bring back Fat Frogs.........

mailburner · 02-11-2013 11:10PM

The_Conductor wrote: »

If you buy a block of Hazelbrook farm icecream in Tesco- it comes all the way from Bailieborough in Cavan. If you buy a Vienetta- it comes from Glouster in England. If you buy a multipack box of Calipo ice pops- they come from Portugal. If you buy a multipack of nutty cornettos- they come from the UK. If you buy a multipack of strawberry cornettos- they come from Spain. . I could go on and on.........

Its a sad part of multinational corporations.

Now- if only they'd bring back Fat Frogs.........

That's just mad altogether
Nice to know these things, doubt many do

Please do....

snubbleste · 03-11-2013 12:27PM

TESCO TUNA CHUNKS IN BRINE 185G €1.59
LIDL NIXE TUNA CHUNKS IN BRINE 185G €0.89

TESCO RED SEEDLESS GRAPES PUNNET 500G €2.79
ALDI RED GRAPES 500G €1.79

TESCO CRUNCHY CARAMEL BISC 7x42G €1.79
LIDL MISTER CHOC CARMEL BISCUIT 2 FINGER 5x58G €1.19

TESCO ALLIN1 DISHWASH FRESH 28'S €3.32
ALDI MAGNUM ALL IN COMPLETE TABLETS 40's €3.45

TESCO 2xKEELINGS RASPBERRY 125G €6.00
LIDL 2xRASPBERRIES 125G €3.98

brokenarms · 03-11-2013 01:55PM

Lissavane wrote: »

Ah, go on, tell us more about silvercrest. I'm sure you're yearning to do so!

I am answering your posts with examples of where some products come from?? What you asked for!
And the the best come back you have is this.
:rolleyes: If you don't know who Silvercrest is by now, after all the negative media it had recently regarding the horse meat scandal speaks volumes on what you know about retail!

Lissavane wrote: »

You know what - it's not "only shopping". It's a public health matter and it involves the food that we injest.

Really. Is that what its about. I thought the thread was about comparison between two big supermarkets . But now its public health LOL.

Access · 03-11-2013 07:33PM

snubbleste wrote: »

TESCO TUNA CHUNKS IN BRINE 185G €1.59
LIDL NIXE TUNA CHUNKS IN BRINE 185G €0.89

TESCO RED SEEDLESS GRAPES PUNNET 500G €2.79
ALDI RED GRAPES 500G €1.79

TESCO CRUNCHY CARAMEL BISC 7x42G €1.79
LIDL MISTER CHOC CARMEL BISCUIT 2 FINGER 5x58G €1.19

TESCO ALLIN1 DISHWASH FRESH 28'S €3.32
ALDI MAGNUM ALL IN COMPLETE TABLETS 40's €3.45

TESCO 2xKEELINGS RASPBERRY 125G €6.00
LIDL 2xRASPBERRIES 125G €3.98

And this is why i will continue to do my big shop in aldi or lidl.

Lissavane · 03-11-2013 11:50PM

brokenarms wrote: »

I am answering your posts with examples of where some products come from?? What you asked for!
And the the best come back you have is this.
:rolleyes: If you don't know who Silvercrest is by now, after all the negative media it had recently regarding the horse meat scandal speaks volumes on what you know about retail!

It seems that Tesco were selling "beef" burgers that contained 30% Polish horsemeat. The burgers were supplied to Tesco by Silvercrest.

Who knows what extraordinary ingredients Tesco burgers contain?

byte · 04-11-2013 12:32AM

The_Conductor wrote: »

Yes- the original HB factory was next door to Nutgrove Shopping Centre in Dublin- it closed back in 2003- a victim of people's changing taste for different icecream products. Unilever packaged its 16 different icrecream businesses into a umbrella company called (coincidentally) HB (standing for Heart Brands- the original Irish HB was named after a dairy run by the Hughes Brothers near Dundrum in Dublin- subsequently split into the icecream business HB and the dairy business (Premier milk- which obviously survives to this day).

Interesting post - until now, I had always believed that HB stood for HazelBrook, as in Hazelbrook Farm! How wrong I was.

CorsendonkX · 06-11-2013 05:00PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Who told you that crap, Aldi and Lidl do not have the same suppliers as tesco or Dunnes.

The Irish(I include NI) food production sector is small enough so if the retailers want to carry Irish grown or made products they often have to deal with suppliers that supply their competition.

Each retailer would have it's own specification do for each of its own branded product so hence the reason you can have a wide variation of product quality from the same factory across a range of brands produced there.

Irish Yogurts would be another example of a company that has it's own brand and also produces own brand for all the major supermarkets including Lidl and Aldi.

rubadub · 06-11-2013 05:33PM

byte wrote: »

Interesting post - until now, I had always believed that HB stood for HazelBrook, as in Hazelbrook Farm! How wrong I was.

Wiki says it was after both hazelbrook and hughes brothers. The heartbrand thing just seems to be a coincidence.

JONJO THE MISER · 07-11-2013 04:59PM

Tesco finest muck put to the test, oh dear looks like they did not fair so well, what a surprise:rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2489078/Is-supermarket-finest-food-posh-claims-From-fishcakes-sausages-stores-spending-fortunes-promote-upmarket-ranges-We-test.html

brokenarms · 07-11-2013 05:14PM

Am I reading the Tesco site correctly?

Have they taken the wine off the Finest meal deal ?? And dropped the deal to a tenner.

Disappointing.

That was a great deal when they had when a bottle of wine was included. Was a fairly decent meal for 12 quid.

The_Conductor · 07-11-2013 06:28PM

brokenarms wrote: »

Am I reading the Tesco site correctly?

Have they taken the wine off the Finest meal deal ?? And dropped the deal to a tenner.

Disappointing.

That was a great deal when they had when a bottle of wine was included. Was a fairly decent meal for 12 quid.

With the increase in duty on wine- I guess the writing was on the wall for this offer. On the bright side- they have some remarkable offers on wine at the moment- not least of which is their own Tesco Finest Rose for 3.75 a bottle (which is quite remarkable- its far and away the nicest Rose you can buy in the country). Unfortunately it is quite popular- none left in Maynooth/Celbridge or Lucan.

campo · 07-11-2013 07:44PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Tesco finest muck put to the test, oh dear looks like they did not fair so well, what a surprise:rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2489078/Is-supermarket-finest-food-posh-claims-From-fishcakes-sausages-stores-spending-fortunes-promote-upmarket-ranges-We-test.html

They did OK actually as they had 2 winners and a runner up....Ok a couple of last also

Lissavane · 07-11-2013 08:39PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Tesco finest muck put to the test, oh dear looks like they did not fair so well, what a surprise:rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2489078/Is-supermarket-finest-food-posh-claims-From-fishcakes-sausages-stores-spending-fortunes-promote-upmarket-ranges-We-test.html

campo wrote: »

They did OK actually as they had 2 winners and a runner up....Ok a couple of last also

Tesco scored 1 out of 5, last, in three of the eight categories in that taste test.

No other brand scored as low as 1/5 in any category.

brokenarms · 07-11-2013 08:44PM

In fairness. Tesco Finest is nowhere near M&S.

But you would soon be bankrupt if you shopped in M&S every week.

Its a bit of a treat going there for me personally.

Thats a good review . I seen Tesco came 3rd out of 4. Not that it makes any difference to us as we dont have 2 of the retailers in Ireland.

Banjo String · 07-11-2013 09:03PM

brokenarms wrote: »

In fairness. Tesco Finest is nowhere near M&S.

But you would soon be bankrupt if you shopped in M&S every week.

Its a bit of a treat going there for me personally.

Thats a good review . I seen Tesco came 3rd out of 4. Not that it makes any difference to us as we dont have 2 of the retailers in Ireland.

That's second last.

Might as well have been 99th of 100 :pac:

rubadub · 07-11-2013 09:04PM

The same woman did another review of own brands of christmas foods in 6 supermarkets and tesco came out very well, possibly the highest scores on average.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244863/Where-buy-Christmas-lunch.html

Lowest they got was 3/5, all the others had at least 1 1/5 or a 0/5

campo · 07-11-2013 09:16PM

rubadub wrote: »

The same woman did another review of own brands of christmas foods in 6 supermarkets and tesco came out very well, possibly the highest scores on average.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244863/Where-buy-Christmas-lunch.html

Lowest they got was 3/5, all the others had at least 1 1/5 or a 0/5

I would much prefer to see your normal joe soap doing a taste test though

Lissavane · 07-11-2013 09:23PM

brokenarms wrote: »

I seen Tesco came 3rd out of 4.

Tesco came 1st out of 4 brands on worst ratings, 1/5 - it achieved 3 worsts - it had no competition - no other brand scored as low as 1/5.

Tesco came 3rd out of 4 brands on best ratings, 5/5, - it achieved 2 bests.

mailburner · 07-11-2013 09:23PM

brokenarms wrote: »

In fairness. Tesco Finest is nowhere near M&S.

But you would soon be bankrupt if you shopped in M&S every week.

Its a bit of a treat going there for me personally.

Thats a good review . I seen Tesco came 3rd out of 4. Not that it makes any difference to us as we dont have 2 of the retailers in Ireland.

not even close alright

I'd shop there every week if I had money to burn
Every time i buy a m&s own brand I think it's the best
out there whether its fruit, biscuits or meat...everything really
can't find fault with any of their stuff at all

love their strawberry milk also

rubadub · 07-11-2013 09:32PM

campo wrote: »

I would much prefer to see your normal joe soap doing a taste test though

And at least 5 of them, since one person could be unusually averse to something.

I don't mind a foodie type person doing them, not sure if that's what you are getting at, or perhaps it was that shes a journo for the mail so if tesco are not advertising in their paper that month they might get lower scores, which I would be wary of.

campo · 07-11-2013 09:34PM

rubadub wrote: »

And at least 5 of them, since one person could be unusually averse to something.

I don't mind a foodie type person doing them, not sure if that's what you are getting at, or perhaps it was that shes a journo for the mail so if tesco are not advertising in their paper that month they might get lower scores, which I would be wary of.

No it was more that she was a foodie type person and sometimes there pallet would be shall we say more refined then your normal joe

ted1 · 07-11-2013 10:02PM

The_Conductor wrote: »

With the increase in duty on wine- I guess the writing was on the wall for this offer. On the bright side- they have some remarkable offers on wine at the moment- not least of which is their own Tesco Finest Rose for 3.75 a bottle (which is quite remarkable- its far and away the nicest Rose you can buy in the country). Unfortunately it is quite popular- none left in Maynooth/Celbridge or Lucan.

Wouldn't go as far saying its the nicest rose you can buy in the country.

Tesco price match Lidl&Aldi

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