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Windows (delivery and fitting)

  • 06-11-2013 06:46PM
    #1
    Curious Geroge
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    Wondering what some other self builders did re windows been fitted. Did you have to supply a way for the windows to be taken off the delivery truck ? and who is then responsible for them ? At what point does the fitter own the window or is the loadall driver going to hold it in place (big windows) while the fitters brace it ?


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    martinn123
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    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    Wondering what some other self builders did re windows been fitted. Did you have to supply a way for the windows to be taken off the delivery truck ? and who is then responsible for them ? At what point does the fitter own the window or is the loadall driver going to hold it in place (big windows) while the fitters brace it ?

    Depends on the way you agree a deal to purchase/fit.


    If you purchase the windows, yourself, and hire fitters, then they will be delivered to site, yes you will have to supply labour to unload, and store, until the fitters take over.
    If you purchase on a supply and fit basis, it will be the fitters responsibility to help unload the truck, and then fit them.


  • #3
    Curious Geroge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Curious Geroge


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Depends on the way you agree a deal to purchase/fit.


    If you purchase the windows, yourself, and hire fitters, then they will be delivered to site, yes you will have to supply labour to unload, and store, until the fitters take over.
    If you purchase on a supply and fit basis, it will be the fitters responsibility to help unload the truck, and then fit them.

    Its a big brand window company, thought it was all ready to proceed with supply and fit quotes in but I just got asked about having a way to offload the truck and supplying the loadall for a few days during fitting. The way I see it, that could be upward of €1000 extra for a loadall, driver and insurance. Just trying to get a feel if this is common experience with self builders.


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    fclauson
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    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    Its a big brand window company, thought it was all ready to proceed with supply and fit quotes in but I just got asked about having a way to offload the truck and supplying the loadall for a few days during fitting. The way I see it, that could be upward of €1000 extra for a loadall, driver and insurance. Just trying to get a feel if this is common experience with self builders.

    We used a main contractor who had a teleporter - I would take no ownership for this process - because in the event of damage it would ALL be your fault


  • #5
    BarneyMc
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    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    Its a big brand window company, thought it was all ready to proceed with supply and fit quotes in but I just got asked about having a way to offload the truck and supplying the loadall for a few days during fitting. The way I see it, that could be upward of €1000 extra for a loadall, driver and insurance. Just trying to get a feel if this is common experience with self builders.

    I'm collating window quotes at the moment myself George and would be interested in knowing who you went for. I tried sending you a PM but your inbox is full :(


  • #6
    rampantbunny
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    Just had a chat with a potential window supplier for my build. Asked him about the requirement for a load-all jobbie.
    He said it would be handy alright, but didn't say it was necessary. Some of my windows are large enough to be heavy being triple glazed so I'm surprised he's not more definite.


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    BryanF
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    rampantbunny wrote: »
    Just had a chat with a potential window supplier for my build. Asked him about the requirement for a load-all jobbie.
    He said it would be handy alright, but didn't say it was necessary. Some of my windows are large enough to be heavy being triple glazed so I'm surprised he's not more definite.
    as i see it, it comes down to the acceptable weight of an item in regards to manual handling. as a self-builder your responsible for H&S on site


  • #8
    rampantbunny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    BryanF wrote: »
    as i see it, it comes down to the acceptable weight of an item in regards to manual handling. as a self-builder your responsible for H&S on site

    Yup, H&S responsibility lies as always with the self-builders.

    My surprise comes, because I have sliding doors each 2m wide x 2.5 high. Safe manual handling of those is not possible IMO.

    Safe teleporter handling wouldn't much better though :)

    Sorry OP, back on topic...


  • #9
    mickdw
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    This was rarely an issue with previous window types as they generally were not massively heavy. With the current energy efficient designs with massive frame section and triple glazing even small windows are becoming awkward to handle. Having said that, I've never seen a window company look for help on a house building site, just adequate access to window locations.
    With the new health and safety regs, it is clear that the self builder needs to be the one calling the shots in this regard so I guess window company should come up with a site specific method statement detailing how they purpose to fit the windows. If that requires the use of a teleporter, you could look at putting that into their package.


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