Irish person not bothered with getting hammered

anncoates · 05-11-2013 02:17PM

Why do people - rightly - point out that the drinking of people other people aren't very interesting but assume we all want to hear their smug epistles on sobriety?

Gerry91 · 05-11-2013 02:21PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

To be honest, I look down and feel sorry for anyone above college-leaving age who feel the need to get absolutely p1ssed. I think it says something about their psychology more than anything else. If a person over 25 or whatever (especially over 30) feels the need to get drunk like that then it's a major indication of either 1) their sad immature life or 2) psychological issues, or worse 3) a combination of both. So you should be delighted OP for joining the élite in the country who don't have to resort to alcohol for the aforementioned reasons.

they may have had a hard working week and want to unwind? Maybe they just enjoy getting drunk? Are celebrating something?

If I go to any late bar in Galway at a weekend I'll see loads of people "above college age" loaded, wouldn't judge them one bit. Personally love going out getting smashed at weekends (though I'm only 22

), especially after a win on a saturday

Muise... · 05-11-2013 02:23PM

anncoates wrote: »

Why do people - rightly - point out that the drinking of people other people aren't very interesting but assume we all want to hear their smug epistles on sobriety?

I think they miss the churning feedback of shame, and long for someone to say "do you know what you didn't do last night?"

Agricola · 05-11-2013 02:30PM

The odd drunk night out can be fun but if its your be all and end all everytime, then you have problems and/or are under 23.

Its such an Irish/British perspective too. Travel a bit and you'll see there are whole countries full of people who have great lives which don't revolve around trying to get alcohol poisoning.

Moneymaker · 05-11-2013 02:35PM

anncoates wrote: »

Why do people - rightly - point out that the drinking of people other people aren't very interesting but assume we all want to hear their smug epistles on sobriety?

Why do people who know you don't drink try to browbeat you into doing it and look down on and make fun of you when you say no?

I don't have a problem with anyone having a drink(responsibly), why do people seem to take an issue with those who don't drink?

Gerry91 · 05-11-2013 02:39PM

Moneymaker wrote: »

Why do people who know you don't drink try to browbeat you into doing it and look down on and make fun of you when you say no?

I don't have a problem with anyone having a drink(responsibly), why do people seem to take an issue with those who don't drink?

Yeah I don't like that myself.

While I like a drink, I'd always respect those that don't. I've seen plenty being slagged off for it unfairly

ColeTrain · 05-11-2013 02:43PM

Zillah wrote: »

No, but you're definitely dissatisfied with life if all you want to do in your free time is get obliterated.

I'd agree with that but surely getting drunk the odd Saturday night, down the local, is an acceptable pastime and not an indication that you're not enjoying life?

CruelCoin · 05-11-2013 02:44PM

obriendj wrote: »

Well all my hobbies are generally during the day, cycling, kayaking, walking. So rather than going boozing or just vegging in front of the TV at night, what do others do to unwind.

the fish tank looks good by the way

Not mine.

Is what i'm aspiring to for my 3 tanks.

kowloon · 05-11-2013 03:12PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Any hobby at all?

I for one am a fishkeeper.

Takes some effort (and time) to turn this:

http://willjlindsey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/gold-fish-bowl.jpg

into this:

http://glass-fish-tanks.com/wp-content/uploads/aquarium.jpg

Those are some serious glass blowing skills you have.

MadsL · 05-11-2013 03:15PM

Lemmy disapproves...

http://imgur.com/BxJat38

cletus van damme · 05-11-2013 03:17PM

A lot of pious folk here , moralising and the like.

i'm 36 and I love going on a bender.
Don't do ita huge amount cos I've other interests and kids.
But once a month/6 weeks I love packing the kids off to the grandparents and going on the rip . great craic (for me)

Zillah wrote: »

I gave up getting hammered on nights out at 25. It is amazing the negativity you can get from people for not wanting to spend 100 euro getting so smashed you barely remember the night and ruin most of the next day.

Students get smashed out of their tree because they're learning their hedonistic limits, grown ups do so because they hate their life.

I love life.

Zillah wrote: »

No, but you're definitely dissatisfied with life if all you want to do in your free time is get obliterated.

all my free time. nobody ever said that.

Zillah · 05-11-2013 03:17PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'd agree with that but surely getting drunk the odd Saturday night, down the local, is an acceptable pastime and not an indication that you're not enjoying life?

No, but there's a huge difference in getting merry in the local and dribbling on a table in coppers. Most Saturday nights out have people drinking with an attitude of panic, as if were they to stop for a second they're going miss the party train. Just think how many times you've seen someone miserable and paying through the nose for the privilege, or how many times you seen people screaming about how much fun they're having when it's clear they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 03:21PM

anncoates wrote: »

Why do people - rightly - point out that the drinking of people other people aren't very interesting but assume we all want to hear their smug epistles on sobriety?

They're not smug epistles on sobriety.

I drink but I will not accept as normal some individual (who should be responsible at such an age) who feels the need to get hammered every single time they drink. So an attack on that attitude is not the same as a smug epistle on sobriety given I've just shown as I myself am a drinker. I think now would be a good time to flick that chip off our shoulder as it's beginning to heavily weigh down upon the quality of your posts.

ColeTrain · 05-11-2013 03:25PM

Zillah wrote: »

No, but there's a huge difference in getting merry in the local and dribbling on a table in coppers. Most Saturday nights out have people drinking with an attitude of panic, as if were they to stop for a second they're going miss the party train. Just think how many times you've seen someone miserable and paying through the nose for the privilege, or how many times you seen people screaming about how much fun they're having when it's clear they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

Extreme example. Most people would define "drunk" as talking a bit of nonsense and numbing the senses a little.

swimming in a sea · 05-11-2013 03:27PM

I've often been asked "where i go on the piss?" by casual acquaintances, I don't think I've ever told the truth to this, I drink very rarely and never go out to get drunk (I must be less of a man:D)

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 03:28PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Extreme example. Most people would define "drunk" as talking a bit of nonsense and numbing the senses a little.

Hammered, Dribbling, Projectile Vomiting, Smashing a glass over someone's head...

SV · 05-11-2013 03:29PM

Reached that stage myself, drinking is just not the novelty it once was and I've found it to be having a detrimental affect to my life.

ColeTrain · 05-11-2013 03:30PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Hammered, Dribbling, Projectile Vomiting, Smashing a glass over someone's head...

Were you spying on me last Saturday?

chakotha · 05-11-2013 03:33PM

Zillah wrote: »

I gave up getting hammered on nights out at 25. It is amazing the negativity you can get from people for not wanting to spend 100 euro getting so smashed you barely remember the night and ruin most of the next day.

Students get smashed out of their tree because they're learning their hedonistic limits, grown ups do so because they hate their life.

Harsh.

meoklmrk91 · 05-11-2013 03:40PM

I was never much of a drinker and only ever went out for special occaisions, been out maybe 4-5 times this year if that, never understood how people could go out to the same places, with the same people, every weekend, it just seems like such a boring thing to do.

I'm in my early 20's and have never been out 2 weekends in a row, in fact I'm not sure I have been out twice in the same month ever. Have gone up to six months without drinking, I like going out every now and again, I like to have a few drinks but I just couldn't do it on a regular basis. Not much of a partier to be fair.

salacious crumb · 05-11-2013 03:41PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

To be honest, I look down and feel sorry for anyone above college-leaving age who feel the need to get absolutely p1ssed. I think it says something about their psychology more than anything else. If a person over 25 or whatever (especially over 30) feels the need to get drunk like that then it's a major indication of either 1) their sad immature life or 2) psychological issues, or worse 3) a combination of both. So you should be delighted OP for joining the élite in the country who don't have to resort to alcohol for the aforementioned reasons.

That is one of the most obnoxious, patronising posts I've seen on here, and that is saying a lot. Get over yourself.

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 03:44PM

salacious crumb wrote: »

That is one of the most obnoxious, patronising posts I've seen on here, and that is saying a lot. Get over yourself.

Instead of attacking the post from a distance, would you like to actually say what's wrong in the post? If you don't, then your comment is merely an empty soundbite.

Zillah · 05-11-2013 03:47PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Instead of attacking the post from a distance, would you like to actually say what's wrong in the post? If you don't, then your comment is merely an empty soundbite.

No! You made him feel bad. You should apoligise. Arguments are well and good but once you upset someone then your point is invalid.

usersame · 05-11-2013 03:54PM

If I may make an observation, the Dublin young professionals scene is exceptionally boozy, to a point where it's almost pathetic

I am pie · 05-11-2013 03:57PM

Ireland, among other countries has a very immature relationship to alcohol. We have to cram it into us like it's going out of fashion, can't take a pause between drinks, feel uncomfortable not having a drink in our hands in the pub, developed a system of drinking which applies pressure of people to drink at the pace of the fastest person or persons (the famous round) and only eat hours before we drink and then hours after it will do any good. We attach all sorts of childish stigma to the amount a person can or cannot drink. Not everyone of course, but in large swathes of the country this culture is endemic. First we drank because we were poor and repressed, then we threw off the shackles and drank to celebrate our genius and excess.

I really think that the best lesson we could learn in this country is how to enjoy the night at weekends, eating small amounts of food as we drink, taking less volume of alcohol, realising that the best part of the night is not the part where you are so wrecked you can't really speak properly, can't maintain your own balance and put yourself in dangerous situations.

I love drinking, but i take my time over it, at the end of a 8 hour night out I'll have had a few bites to eat and some water, i'll be merry, social and enjoying the effects of the booze without feeling the need to smash myself over the head with it without having ever learnt the lesson of the weekend befores excesses.

We just need to grow up a bit with the booze. Much much later opening hours, for restaurants and bars, but only where those bars discourage outright drunkeness (loss of control) and serve a dab of food.

April O Neill · 05-11-2013 04:00PM

usersame wrote: »

If I may make an observation, the Dublin young professionals scene is exceptionally boozy, to a point where it's almost pathetic

Yes, true!

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 04:00PM

I am pie wrote: »

Ireland, among other countries has a very immature relationship to alcohol. We have to cram it into us like it's going out of fashion, can't take a pause between drinks, feel uncomfortable not having a drink in our hands in the pub, developed a system of drinking which applies pressure of people to drink at the pace of the fastest person or persons (the famous round) and only eat hours before we drink and then hours after it will do any good. We attach all sorts of childish stigma to the amount a person can or cannot drink. Not everyone of course, but in large swathes of the country this culture is endemic. First we drank because we were poor and repressed, then we threw off the shackles and drank to celebrate our genius and excess.

I really think that the best lesson we could learn in this country is how to enjoy the night at weekends, eating small amounts of food as we drink, taking less volume of alcohol, realising that the best part of the night is not the part where you are so wrecked you can't really speak properly, can't maintain your own balance and put yourself in dangerous situations.

I love drinking, but i take my time over it, at the end of a 8 hour night out I'll have had a few bites to eat and some water, i'll be merry, social and enjoying the effects of the booze without feeling the need to smash myself over the head with it without having ever learnt the lesson of the weekend befores excesses.

We just need to grow up a bit with the booze. Much much later opening hours, for restaurants and bars, but only where those bars discourage outright drunkeness (loss of control) and serve a dab of food.

One of the best posts I've seen in many a day on AH.

Unfortunately, the likes of Salacious_Crumb will come along and smash your perfectly coherent piece with labels such as 'obnoxious'. Be prepared for the accusations of 'arrogant sobriety' when that's merely a negative euphemism for the positive trait of maturity, but they haven't realised this yet, poor folks.

vitani · 05-11-2013 04:01PM

The last date I went on went something like this:

Him: So where do you go out?
Me: Oh, I don't really drink that much so nowhere, really. I tend to meet up with friends for coffee or dinner, or we'll go see a show or a film.
Him: Oh, right. Fair play.

Ten minutes later...

Him: So where do you go out?
Me: ???

It's like a foreign concept to some people that there's a world away from pubs and nightclubs. Aside from hating the feeling of being drunk or hungover, I just can't justify spending a fortune on drink anymore. I enjoyed my mad drinking stage while it lasted but I couldn't go back there.

anncoates · 05-11-2013 04:03PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

They're not smug epistles on sobriety.

wretcheddomain wrote: »

I drink but I will not accept as normal some individual (who should be responsible at such an age) who feels the need to get hammered every single time they drink.

.

anncoates · 05-11-2013 04:04PM

Moneymaker wrote: »

Why do people who know you don't drink try to browbeat you into doing it and look down on and make fun of you when you say no?

I haven't a clue. Why don't you ask them?

Irish person not bothered with getting hammered

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