If Sinn Fein had majority Govt.

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-11-2013 02:13PM

It would be like the fall of Saigon down at the IFSC

Savoir.Faire · 05-11-2013 02:15PM

anncoates wrote: »

It's is given that they'd split into two wings immediately following the election so parliament would be postponed until one faction rubbed the other out.

My money would be on whatever side Ellis and Ferris were on. I couldn't see the likes of Marry Lou or O'Snodaigh being much use in a guerilla civil war.

I prefer my Republicans: bearded, shifty-eyed and smelling vaguely of sulphur.

Seedy Arling · 05-11-2013 02:16PM

anncoates wrote: »

Maybe they could get rid of the recession by just making it disappear for 20 years.

And then totally deny that they had anything to do with the disappearance until they were blue in the face.

Also, free armalites and bad seventies beards for everyone.

Tramps Like Us · 05-11-2013 02:17PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Im guessing, a fit of indignance, largely based on a massively subjective appraisal of a topic. Going off on one in other words

He said he'd emigrate if Enda became taoisach but the gobsh!te is still here

anncoates · 05-11-2013 02:19PM

Seedy Arling wrote: »

Also, free armalites and bad seventies beards for everyone.

Coupled with a mandatory 70s pedo anorak, slacks and sweater combo.

Hobbes · 05-11-2013 02:20PM

Imagine you have gone out for the evening for a nice steak at a Steak house. You are 10 minutes into your meal when a blond haired guy named Zapp stands up and says "She handles like a Bistro".

This is the warning sign to leave the restaurant before gravity wins.

The same could be said for SF coming into power.

Augmerson · 05-11-2013 02:37PM

It would almost be worth it to see the amount of people freak out and either emigrate like, as someone mentioned before the Fall of Saigon or commit suicide en masse like Jonestown from the Shinner Nightmare.

bnt · 05-11-2013 02:39PM

Since I'm from the UK, I expect that within a few months I will be either (a) back in the UK or (b) killed to death with a Shillelagh by a Fenian nutjob. Can't run the risk that I might pollute the Irish bloodline, can we?

The Backwards Man · 05-11-2013 02:40PM

Wouldn't make any difference to my daily life, I'd just be living it in a different country.

Seedy Arling · 05-11-2013 02:41PM

bnt wrote: »

Since I'm from the UK, I expect that within a few months I will be either (a) back in the UK or (b) killed to death with a Shillelagh by a Fenian nutjob. Can't run the risk that I might pollute the Irish bloodline, can we?

No blacks, no dogs, no bnt.

Roger_007 · 05-11-2013 02:44PM

If SF were in government then Gerry would be Taoisech. At least his memory is as good as Bertie's.:rolleyes:

Red Kev · 05-11-2013 02:51PM

Nothing would change. Austerity politics and cutbacks would still be the order of the day. No major job creation strategy has ever been proposed by SF and I don't expect them to issue one soon.

SF are in power in NI and have no problems ordering cutbacks on the most vulnerable in society. They are a classic populist opposition party, just like FG pre 2011 and as such no change would be made to any cutbacks in place today.

paulbok · 05-11-2013 02:52PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Couldn't leave if I wanted to. To be honest I've very little interest in any of the parties themselves. They all seem more concerned with pot shots at each other instead of running the country.

Imagine having SF do this?:eek:

paulbok · 05-11-2013 02:56PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

We'd have six months of of smug celebration from the Celtic Jersey brigade and then six months of massive back peddling on election promises and then the IMF back in.

Very optimistic there, I'd give it 6 weeks before they bankrupt the country

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

and then we have a coup on our hands

It'd be more of a queue t'eat from our defence forces.

kowloon · 05-11-2013 03:04PM

They'd follow the orders of the lizard people just like the Greens did and nothing would change.

Sleepy · 05-11-2013 03:14PM

Can you imagine being the poor bastard in the civil service who'd have to try and teach them how to count?! Honestly, I reckon I'd have to emigrate. I couldn't see my boss staying in business so I'd have to find work elsewhere when he did.

Assuming they were true to their election promises:

Tax revenues would plummet despite ever higher rates.
Many of the multi-nationals would leave as their tax deals were reneged on / corporate taxes were increased.
Unemployment would sky-rocket.
The markets would stop lending to us or rates would be above 10% leading to complete meltdown within 12 months.
We'd see what a GUBU nation was really like.

Ultimately it would end with the IMF having to be called back in and / or Fine Gael being voted back in to clean up after yet another "Republican" party's train-wreck populism.

More realistically, they'd very quickly do a u-turn on most of their manifesto and we'd see the above happen to a less extreme degree.

K-9 · 05-11-2013 03:21PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Cant see the Gardai or the army taking orders from a Sinn Fein minister

There were similar fears when DeV took over in 1932, nothing ever happened and I don't think it would either. Reminds me of the fears markets used to have about Labour finance ministers!

fishy fishy · 05-11-2013 03:22PM

errlloyd wrote: »

I'd emigrate.

ah sure one more won't make much difference.

Nodin · 05-11-2013 04:50PM

Augmerson wrote: »

It would almost be worth it to see the amount of people freak out and either emigrate like, as someone mentioned before the Fall of Saigon or commit suicide en masse like Jonestown from the Shinner Nightmare.

I'd probably die in a fit of delirious cackling at the sight.

Dick phelan · 05-11-2013 05:04PM

If they did i honestly would leave, no way i could live in a country with them running it as a majority maybe with them as a part of government but imagine how bad the country would get with them in charge, the damage to international reputation would be Hugh, let is not forget the terrible acts they have committed on this island, you might say it's in the past but i will never vote for Sinn Fein as long as the likes of Adams are still in it.

Nodin · 05-11-2013 05:07PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I'd be ashamed to be Irish.

plus ca change.....

LETS BE AVN IT · 05-11-2013 05:08PM

Be a great day for Ireland we would finally have people in charge that care about the greater good for Ireland. Irish people are idiots if they vote back in FG/FF again we need a radical change.

Fratton Fred · 05-11-2013 05:31PM

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

Be a great day for Ireland we would finally have people in charge that care about the greater good for Ireland. Irish people are idiots if they vote back in FG/FF again we need a radical change.

A radical change is definitely needed, but voting in a populist party with an incoherent economic policy isn't exactly radical.

old hippy · 05-11-2013 05:51PM

Augmerson wrote: »

It would almost be worth it to see the amount of people freak out and either emigrate like, as someone mentioned before the Fall of Saigon or commit suicide en masse like Jonestown from the Shinner Nightmare.

Would it be worth it? A decimated population? Odd priorities some people have

Augmerson · 05-11-2013 05:56PM

I find myself at times trying hard to figure out some peoples genuine horror and terror at the idea of Sinn Fein being in government here. It's a possibility - an outside possibility yes, but if you look at their manifesto, their ideas, there is really nothing to them. Same as any party because they will say anything to get into power. I see the worry coming from media outlets like the papers (Indo/Sindo). What are they worried about? Nobody who buys those papers will ever vote SF.

Yes SF have links to the war in the North, but how long will people be bringing that up as an excuse not to vote for them? Someday Gerry will be gone, and McGuinness, and a new crop of SF people will be there, maybe the first generation who've had nothing to do with the Troubles.

Sometimes I think it's more of a genuine concern that SF in gov't would completely **** up the status quo in this country. You'd have say, the Vinters Association, which has (imo) had every administration since year 0 in it's pocket and has gotten it's way practically forever, having to cosy up to SF. Same goes for the media, the law society, business, construction federation and many other monopolised professions and vested interests.

And maybe all these people and groups who have a lot to lose know that whatever SF propose, it'll be a populist manifesto, designed to win the vote of the working and middle classes (dunno even how much of a middle class we have left these days) and whatever is proposed will be paid with with higher taxes coming from the wealthy.

Is that it or am I just drinking too much water with lime in it?

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-11-2013 06:02PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I find myself at times trying hard to figure out some peoples genuine horror and terror at the idea of Sinn Fein being in government here. It's a possibility - an outside possibility yes, but if you look at their manifesto, their ideas, there is really nothing to them. Same as any party because they will say anything to get into power. I see the worry coming from media outlets like the papers (Indo/Sindo). What are they worried about? Nobody who buys those papers will ever vote SF.

Yes SF have links to the war in the North, but how long will people be bringing that up as an excuse not to vote for them? Someday Gerry will be gone, and McGuinness, and a new crop of SF people will be there, maybe the first generation who've had nothing to do with the Troubles.

Sometimes I think it's more of a genuine concern that SF in gov't would completely **** up the status quo in this country. You'd have say, the Vinters Association, which has (imo) had every administration since year 0 in it's pocket and has gotten it's way practically forever, having to cosy up to SF. Same goes for the media, the law society, business, construction federation and many other monopolised professions and vested interests.

And maybe all these people and groups who have a lot to lose know that whatever SF propose, it'll be a populist manifesto, designed to win the vote of the working and middle classes (dunno even how much of a middle class we have left these days) and whatever is proposed will be paid with with higher taxes coming from the wealthy.

Is that it or am I just drinking too much water with lime in it?

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LETS BE AVN IT · 05-11-2013 06:02PM

old hippy wrote: »

Would it be worth it? A decimated population? Odd priorities some people have

A decimated population ? What you think is happening right now. There is hundreds of youths leaving every week as it is I find it hilarious that people think more will leave with SF in charge the current FG government want the youth out to bring down the Social Welfare numbers as we know so maybe SF could address that. Some very ignorant comments on here looking down on SF members you do realise most of us have voted in the last two governments and look what they have done they helped bring down a country's economy with there excellent work in power , so are you saying SF would be worse than that?

old hippy · 05-11-2013 06:05PM

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

A decimated population ? What you think is happening right now. There is hundreds of youths leaving every week as it is I find it hilarious that people think more will leave with SF in charge the current FG government want the youth out to bring down the Social Welfare numbers as we know so maybe SF could address that. Some very ignorant comments on here looking down on SF members you do realise most of us have voted in the last two governments and look what they have done they helped bring down a country's economy with there excellent work in power , so are you saying SF would be worse than that?

I'm strictly neutral on this, I left Ireland quite some time ago. Do I think they'd be any good in power? It's undeniable there are some passionate people in the SF ranks who care about social change, inclusion and progress. That has to be a good thing. I think many of the reactions here are to do with the old politics, which have always caused divisions within the country.

Augmerson · 05-11-2013 06:06PM

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

A decimated population ? What you think is happening right now. There is hundreds of youths leaving every week as it is I find it hilarious that people think more will leave with SF in charge the current FG government want the youth out to bring down the Social Welfare numbers as we know so maybe SF could address that. Some very ignorant comments on here looking down on SF members you do realise most of us have voted in the last two governments and look what they have done they helped bring down a country's economy with there excellent work in power , so are you saying SF would be worse than that?

Possibly it's a fear that if the working class and lower middle class vote in SF, you'll see Celtic jersey wearing council estate hooligans raping and pillaging their way across the land, hepped on up goofballs with all that money they now get from the Dole, roaring 'RA songs and beating the **** out of anyone with a South County Dublin accent.

The Horror.....

The Horror....

mattjack · 05-11-2013 06:07PM

LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »

Be a great day for Ireland we would finally have people in charge that care about the greater good for Ireland. Irish people are idiots if they vote back in FG/FF again we need a radical change.

A radical change ? could we have a new flag .... with a funky new design with a beard motiff in the middle .

Maybe a new national anthem too , something along the lines of " , ohh ahh , up the 'Ra".

If Sinn Fein had majority Govt.

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