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Homebrew Beer Howto

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Tube wrote: »
    That's too broad a generalisation. Condition a lager at those temps and you'll possibly ruin it. Conditioning is sooo much more subtle than simple A to B fermentation.

    Yeah but that type of info can over complicate it for a beginner. It's like telling someone that wants to start running as exercise to go out and buy the best of gear including a heart rate monitor and the latest Asics. Too much too soon. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    oblivious wrote: »
    Kit ? both Muntons and Woodfords do all malt India Pale Ale kits for a more English IPA, you could dry hop these kits with america hops to for a more US slanted IPA

    I dry hopped my last IPA with Target, for that 'all english' vibe. Target is a great english hop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Me and my buddy (two complete newbies to the homebrewing) have our first kit in the fermentor since wednesday evening, it's a Young's lager btw. We wanted to stick with a kit first time so we didn't make any f-ups. Now I'm starting to read a bit I'm realising that following the kit instructions may not be conducive to making the best tasting beer.

    Can anyone give me any tips on how to get the best out of the beer at this stage; maybe it's too late? We had planned to bottle on Monday / Tuesday then wait 14 days before tucking in.

    thanks!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Keep it cool if you can: 16-18 degrees is perfect. Give it a minimum of two weeks in the fermenter and only bottle when the gravity has stabilised -- rushing it into bottles is more likely to harm it than leaving it a week or two extra in the fermenter. And finally, don't expect it to taste like a lager. For future reference, the darker styles tend to work better from kits.

    And never follow the instructions :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Keep it cool if you can: 16-18 degrees is perfect. Give it a minimum of two weeks in the fermenter and only bottle when the gravity has stabilised -- rushing it into bottles is more likely to harm it than leaving it a week or two extra in the fermenter. And finally, don't expect it to taste like a lager. For future reference, the darker styles tend to work better from kits.

    And never follow the instructions :D

    Thanks alot for the reply BeerNut. If i give it two weeks in the fermenter, how long should i leave it in the bottles? When I check the gravity with my hydrometer should I be giving it a stir or anything?

    I was recommended this book (the joys of homebrewing) and the plan is to give it a good going over as soon as it gets here.

    Can you or anyone else recommend a recipe for one's first endeavour without a kit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Thanks alot for the reply BeerNut. If i give it two weeks in the fermenter, how long should i leave it in the bottles?
    about the same amount of time in the bottles, bit longer if possible.

    When I check the gravity with my hydrometer should I be giving it a stir or anything?
    Best not to.

    Can you or anyone else recommend a recipe for one's first endeavour without a kit?
    Kinda depends on what styles you like, but something simple like a nice blonde or red ale would be a good start.

    Check out this for step by step guides.....and recipes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    Dry hop my friend.

    Give that thing some flavour.

    edit: I'd do a few kits before you invest all that money in AG equipment. If you have a big auld pot you could do extract. If so I recommend one of these to bridge the gap between kit and extract:

    http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/beercider-kits-hbc-full-extract-kits-23lts-c-1_216.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭blueshed




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Whisko wrote: »
    Dry hop my friend.

    Give that thing some flavour.

    edit: I'd do a few kits before you invest all that money in AG equipment. If you have a big auld pot you could do extract. If so I recommend one of these to bridge the gap between kit and extract:

    http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/beercider-kits-hbc-full-extract-kits-23lts-c-1_216.html

    A big pot is all thats required to go up to extract. And I wouldnt recommend using an 'extract kit' - most of the fun is in designing of your own recipe using steeping grains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    drumswan wrote: »
    A big pot is all thats required to go up to extract. And I wouldnt recommend using an 'extract kit' - most of the fun is in designing of your own recipe using steeping grains.

    Each to his own. I found it a bit overwhelming at the start tbh and I'm glad I did a few extract kits to get my head around it all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    So i've had my wort in the fermenter for a week tomorrow, i think i might take a trip down to my local home brew store and try and pick up some finishing hops to place in the fermenter for the next week; is there a difference between finishing hops and any other types of hops? thanks for all the help lads! by the way is brewing sugar the best thing to prime with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    No, there is no difference. I use whole hops and a muslin bag for dry hopping, never used those packaged finishing hops.

    Just make sure you get a good aroma hop suitable for the style and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    Could I ask where your LHBS is?

    I wish I had one of those!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    http://www.houseofhomebrew.co.uk/

    I'm a belfast brewer mate, yes it's very handy but it is quite limited!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    is there a difference between finishing hops and any other types of hops? thanks for all the help lads! by the way is brewing sugar the best thing to prime with?

    As a rule your dry hops should be as fresh as you can get. Check the harvest date on the packet. You should be looking for 2012 harvests (northern hemisphere hops).

    The aromatic components are the first to disappear, and these are what you hope to impart with dry hopping.

    Hops are a great ingredient, there are hundreds of varieties now, and you should be able to get your hands on any of the 30-40 most available varieties with ease.

    Consider that each hop variety can be used in 5 different ways (first wort hops, full boil hops, flavour hops, aroma/flame out/steep hops, and dry hops), you have a bewildering number of combinations. So experience and practice works best.

    Hops are the foodie equivalent of spice, in beer. You use them to add a big hit to your beer (bitterness, flavour and aroma).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Cheers for all the advice lads, picked up some 2012 Saaz hops, going to add em tonight, any guidance as to how much to bung in?

    EDIT: I put about a third of a 113g pack into it, so roughly 37g. Find it really frustrating trying to keep everything clean and sterilised... Feel like if I set something down on the counter I have to sterilise and rinse it again! Also took a gravity reading, weighing in about 1040, does that sound along the right lines... It's been in a week but I forgot to take an initial reading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    Saaz is a good choice to dry hop a lager.

    Its a subtle hop so it wont overpower, and 37g sounds like a good amount.

    If you are worried about sanitisation, what you need to do is get some star san (home brew company stocks it) on your next online purchase. Its pricey, but you only use tiny amounts, so it lasts forever.

    Buy or reuse a spray bottle (like a kitchen cleaner bottle). Fill it with star san solution and spray all your gear continuously. I tend to use a large plastic chopping board, and I treat it as a 'clean spot' - so i keep it clean & santitised, and all my gear goes down on it, and nowhere else.

    Mostly the gear that gets used a lot, is the mash/stirring paddle, hydrometer, and sample jar. If you rehydrate your yeast you will need to sanitise that container too.

    On bottling day, a bottle tree with bottle washer will sort you out, and you also need to keep bottling wand & siphon tube scrupulously clean (which is tricky to do).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭1013


    Hi

    I was hoping to order a few items from www.thehomebrewcompany.ie today, but their site seems to be no longer available.

    A technical glitch? Or more serious?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    1013 wrote: »
    Hi

    I was hoping to order a few items from www.thehomebrewcompany.ie today, but their site seems to be no longer available.

    A technical glitch? Or more serious?

    Working fine for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    fine here too, using chrome

    was on it 3 days ago fine too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭1013


    rubadub wrote: »
    fine here too, using chrome

    was on it 3 days ago fine too

    Thanks.

    Must be a glitch at my end so!

    I had a couple of pages open in Firefox for some of the itmes I wanted, but I'm just getting a default page now whenever I go to the site.

    Other sites are ok though.

    I'll try another browser and see how I get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    Thank god!

    You had me worried there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭1013


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Working fine for me.

    I tried IE and it was fine, and today it's good again in Firefox. :confused:

    There will be beer for Christmas! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 elnino08


    Howdy folks, first time brewer and started on the St Peters IPA a week ago. Have a Question on temperature if anyone can help.
    For the first 2 days it was 18-20 and started to drop then to between 14-16 so I put a heat belt on yesterday and has done the trick and gone back up to 22 now. Did a hydrometer test and looks like its about half way. Plan on leaving it another week then check to see if its ready to bottle. Will there be any effects as the temp was too low for the first 5 days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭invaderzimirl


    elnino08 wrote: »
    Howdy folks, first time brewer and started on the St Peters IPA a week ago. Have a Question on temperature if anyone can help.
    For the first 2 days it was 18-20 and started to drop then to between 14-16 so I put a heat belt on yesterday and has done the trick and gone back up to 22 now. Did a hydrometer test and looks like its about half way. Plan on leaving it another week then check to see if its ready to bottle. Will there be any effects as the temp was too low for the first 5 days?

    no shouldn't be any it just put it asleep until it got to temp to start again.i normally leave it in the ferminator for at least 3 weeks, last ones i left in for 5-6 weeks and are looking very nice.

    just make sure its finished before bottling but also try not to go near it too much as that could effect your beer taste by introcucing oxygen into the beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    elnino08 wrote: »
    Howdy folks, first time brewer and started on the St Peters IPA a week ago. Have a Question on temperature if anyone can help.
    For the first 2 days it was 18-20 and started to drop then to between 14-16 so I put a heat belt on yesterday and has done the trick and gone back up to 22 now. Did a hydrometer test and looks like its about half way. Plan on leaving it another week then check to see if its ready to bottle. Will there be any effects as the temp was too low for the first 5 days?

    Heat belts can cause more trouble than lower temperatures. The higher the temp the funkier the flavour.

    Ideal fermenting temp is 18-20, anything lower just takes longer to ferment, without actually affecting the flavour, if anything it'll produce a cleaner crisper beer at lower temperatures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    You where bang on at 18-20, won't have been hurt at 14-16. Likely won't even have stopped fermenting, just slowed it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 elnino08


    Cheers for that guys


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Lads need a bit of help with my second brew.
    Made a batch of Canadian Blonde.
    Now I decided to cold crash it in a chest freezer but it froze :)

    I let it thaw and bottled and its actually really really nice but its strong.Really strong.Id say its about 7-8 %.See I didn't let it thaw fully but left the frozen block in the bottom and just bottled the unfrozen stuff.Never took a hydrometer reading before bottling.

    Is this alright?Safe to drink?

    Everyone loves it but says it very very strong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Whisko


    Yeah its safe to drink.

    It's how brewdog make some of their beers so strong.


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