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Gameweek 10 Transfers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Can anyone recommend a replacement for Vidic ? Have Mig , Shaw , Terry , Chester & Coleman ? Thanks

    I have same defense as you except dawson for shaw. Just replaced vidic with pieters. Good fixtures coming up and got an assist today. Wanted to divest some money from my defense also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Is it madness to consider buying a bench fodder injured £3.8 defender to fund Aguero move? Doing this would mean that I wouldn't have to sell Michu until his nice run of fixtures ends. Would leave me with:

    Mignolet/Davis
    Nastasic, Clyne, Chico, Chester, Bench fodder
    Oscar, Ozil, Ramsey, Michu, Amalfitano,
    Aguero, Suarez, Lukaku

    Thoughts?

    You've already got Chester injured and Amalfitano doubtful. You'll be cutting things fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Invincible


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I want to bring in Suarez but I don't know for who, I have rooney giroud and sturridge , decisions decisions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Invincible wrote: »
    Rooney has no consistency though, Hansen being biased, any time I've brought him in, he's a waste of time.

    Hansen the Scot and former Pool player being biased to Rooney the English lad who used to play for the toffees but now United....... :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    An octuple post :eek: That's a first!

    After a poor last few gameweeks, made an absolute balls of my WC (thank you RvP) and I've been taking 4 point hits every week for the past 4/5 trying to fix my team. I'm nearly there now, just a few more transfers.

    Anyway, thinking of doing Giroud to Aguero (no City coverage and have Ramsey & Ozil) plus Vidic to Clyne for a 4 point hit, any opinions on this? Have Suarez and Lukaku as my other 2 strikers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D


    You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Rooney for the past few weeks, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, you claim he's never been a good FPL asset but as I see it he's scored well over 200 points in two of the last 4 seasons, he had very limited game time last year and was often played in a deep midfield role. He is currently playing quite possibly the best football of his career in an underperforming side which as a unit isn't scoring as much as they should, he had a (brilliant)goal and assist yesterday, forced Begovic to make a world class save also, he has contributed attacking points in 5 of his last 6 EPL games.

    I'm tempted to get Aguero in, I'd find it difficult to replace Rooney though in that kind of form and with a decent enough fixture list in front of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    He is currently playing quite possibly the best football of his career in an underperforming side which as a unit isn't scoring as much as they should, he had a (brilliant)goal and assist yesterday, forced Begovic to make a world class save also, he has contributed attacking points in 5 of his last 6 EPL games.

    I'm tempted to get Aguero in, I'd find it difficult to replace Rooney though in that kind of form and with a decent enough fixture list in front of him.

    This is the only thing that puts me off him. Sticking to Aguero for Sturridge barring any disasters today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,457 ✭✭✭✭km79


    You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Rooney for the past few weeks, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, you claim he's never been a good FPL asset but as I see it he's scored well over 200 points in two of the last 4 seasons, he had very limited game time last year and was often played in a deep midfield role. He is currently playing quite possibly the best football of his career in an underperforming side which as a unit isn't scoring as much as they should, he had a (brilliant)goal and assist yesterday, forced Begovic to make a world class save also, he has contributed attacking points in 5 of his last 6 EPL games.

    I'm tempted to get Aguero in, I'd find it difficult to replace Rooney though in that kind of form and with a decent enough fixture list in front of him.
    That was my plan too and may still be.....I was at the united match yday and despite the goal and assist I'm still not sure about keeping him. He is certainly not as explosive as aguero but........ Its a tough one esp as it will Be a 4 point hit!
    Eriksen not playing today could make my decision a lot easier. Id probably move him out for Silva instead then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    km79 wrote: »
    That was my plan too and may still be.....I was at the united match yday and despite the goal and assist I'm still not sure about keeping him. He is certainly not as explosive as aguero but........ Its a tough one esp as it will Be a 4 point hit!
    Eriksen not playing today could make my decision a lot easier. Id probably move him out for Silva instead then


    I'm thinking along the exact same lines, Eriksen will be out if he doesn't start today and Silva has moved to the front of the queue to replace him, Hazard is the other option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,457 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I'm thinking along the exact same lines, Eriksen will be out if he doesn't start today and Silva has moved to the front of the queue to replace him, Hazard is the other option.
    Also from yday Arnie was VERY impressive before he went off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Rooney for the past few weeks, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, you claim he's never been a good FPL asset but as I see it he's scored well over 200 points in two of the last 4 seasons, he had very limited game time last year and was often played in a deep midfield role. He is currently playing quite possibly the best football of his career in an underperforming side which as a unit isn't scoring as much as they should, he had a (brilliant)goal and assist yesterday, forced Begovic to make a world class save also, he has contributed attacking points in 5 of his last 6 EPL games.

    I'm tempted to get Aguero in, I'd find it difficult to replace Rooney though in that kind of form and with a decent enough fixture list in front of him.

    You're wrong there for a start with your opening point. I've always said he was a good asset a few seasons back when he started well for United. The season they beat Arsenal 8-2 in the opening few matches.

    Other than that year though, he's always been overpriced and there have always been better options available, be they Ronaldo, Henry, Ade, RVP, Torres (in the past!), Drogba or others over the years.

    I don't have a bee in my bonnet re him. It was an honest question. If I had Rooney and I had planned to swap him for Aguero, I'd certainly be having second thoughts now.

    My point re Hansen is that IMO he's talking complete crap. I'd put at least three strikers in the PL above Rooney: RVP, Aguero and Suarez. I honestly couldn't believe what I was hearing when Hansen came out with it. And I'm speaking here as someone who supports a Championship club so has no bias.

    It's the usual pro England bias you get from the English media though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    km79 wrote: »
    Also from yday Arnie was VERY impressive before he went off


    I already have Arnie, I may have been his first cheerleader on here, I was fierce impressed the very first time I saw him when he came off the bench against City and nearly won the game for Stoke twice, very surprised he didn't score till yesterday but his attempts stats were thru the roof, very unlucky with a volley yesterday also which he just put too close to the keeper, he's a very good player and Stoke will certainly continue to build a good deal of their play around him, a bargain at 5.5m, I wonder will he be on penno's, surely Walters has run out of chances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Lemlin wrote: »
    A few people had planned to do Rooney to Aguero. Just wondering what their plans are now?

    Rooney apparently the best striker in the league according to Hansen on MoTD :D

    I'm completely in a pickle at the moment. Have already done vidic to pieters. My team isn't in bad shape and I have made decent inroads in the past few weeks but...

    Stilk have chester who still seems to be a bit away.

    Brady seems to be injured again.

    Really want hazard in but am reluctant to get rid of michu with swansea's fixtures. Will give michu until next week at least.

    And then there's the strikeforce. Currently have rooney, giroud and sturridge and to be fair they are performing well. I had planned on replacing rooney with aguero but I'm going to hold off on that now (scared sh1tless of aguero v norwich). I plan to do sturridge to suarez next week. Well aware I'll miss out on 0.3m but don't fancy suarez away to arsenal too much and will be benching sturridge. I also think i will replace giroud with lukaku in the next week or two. Willing to take points hits but it will be tough to get rid of giroud who has done well,he's just not explosive enough and could have done more yesterday as captain.


    For reference my team is;

    Boruc Myhill

    Terry Dawson Coleman Pieters Chester

    Michu Ozil Lallana Brady R.Morrison

    Giroud Rooney Sturridge.

    Any input welcome as I'm a bit stumped at the moment and not really sure what direction I'm going with my team.

    Edit: 3.4m in the ulster bank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    Lemlin wrote: »
    You're wrong there for a start with your opening point. I've always said he was a good asset a few seasons back when he started well for United. The season they beat Arsenal 8-2 in the opening few matches.

    Other than that year though, he's always been overpriced and there have always been better options available, be they Ronaldo, Henry, Ade, RVP, Torres (in the past!), Drogba or others over the years.

    I don't have a bee in my bonnet re him. It was an honest question. If I had Rooney and I had planned to swap him for Aguero, I'd certainly be having second thoughts now.

    My point re Hansen is that IMO he's talking complete crap. I'd put at least three strikers in the PL above Rooney: RVP, Aguero and Suarez. I honestly couldn't believe what I was hearing when Hansen came out with it. And I'm speaking here as someone who supports a Championship club so has no bias.

    It's the usual pro England bias you get from the English media though.


    OK, it's fine I suppose to talk a player down when his form is poor but I can't understand what more you expect from Rooney at the moment, last week you made a comment that "the wheels had come off the Rooney bandwagon" when he "only" assisted a goal, I wanted to comment then but left it go, the other day you said the you had made the correct decision of going with Aguero ahead of Rooney, it's a bit premature to make a statement like that after one outstanding week. I've noticed these comments because I was contemplating getting Aguero in and I already have Rooney so they were relevant to my team.

    Rooney is a different type of striker to the three you mentioned, he has a game which is probably more to Hansen's liking(his physicality I suppose), Hansen knows a lot more about football than me and you, i'd say he's entitled to his opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    qwabercd wrote: »
    I'm completely in a pickle at the moment. Have already done vidic to pieters. My team isn't in bad shape and I have made decent inroads in the past few weeks but...

    Stilk have chester who still seems to be a bit away.

    Brady seems to be injured again.

    Really want hazard in but am reluctant to get rid of michu with swansea's fixtures. Will give michu until next week at least.

    And then there's the strikeforce. Currently have rooney, giroud and sturridge and to be fair they are performing well. I had planned on replacing rooney with aguero but I'm going to hold off on that now (scared sh1tless of aguero v norwich). I plan to do sturridge to suarez next week. Well aware I'll miss out on 0.3m but don't fancy suarez away to arsenal too much and will be benching sturridge. I also think i will replace giroud with lukaku in the next week or two. Willing to take points hits but it will be tough to get rid of giroud who has done well,he's just not explosive enough and could have done more yesterday as captain.


    For reference my team is;

    Boruc Myhill

    Terry Dawson Coleman Pieters Chester

    Michu Ozil Lallana Brady R.Morrison

    Giroud Rooney Sturridge.

    Any input welcome as I'm a bit stumped at the moment and not really sure what direction I'm going with my team.

    Depends how much in bank you have and whether you are very attached to 433 or 343. Personally I'm still holding Chester as no better 4m option, can afford to as I'm playing 3 at back. I gave up on Coleman this week and got in clyne and even though Everton got a CS they gave away a lot of chances and keeper players a blinder. If you have cash you could up Coleman to maybe Kompany or one of the Southampton lads, but bear in mind Saints fixtures getting tough.

    I've Michu, ozil and Brady too, see what happens with Brady today. Like myself I think you need city attackers, I'm getting in Aguero this week, otherwise silva for midfield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,095 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Still planning to do the Aguero Rooney swap as planned but i may shift a mid/def to free up cash to further boost my new forward line of Aguero-Lukaku-Sturridge, Sturridge being the most likely change to Suarez but i am a little hesitant to do that.

    Sturridge to Rooney and Lukaku to Suarez over 2/3 weeks possibly but all up in air just now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    FHFC wrote: »
    Depends how much in bank you have and whether you are very attached to 433 or 343. Personally I'm still holding Chester as no better 4m option, can afford to as I'm playing 3 at back. I gave up on Coleman this week and got in clyne and even though Everton got a CS they gave away a lot of chances and keeper players a blinder. If you have cash you could up Coleman to maybe Kompany or one of the Southampton lads, but bear in mind Saints fixtures getting tough.

    I've Michu, ozil and Brady too, see what happens with Brady today. Like myself I think you need city attackers, I'm getting no Aguero this week, otherwise solve for midfield.

    3.4m in the bank. Not keen on investing any more in defence.

    Could do:
    Michu lallana sturridge rooney out
    Hazard silva lukaku suarez in

    Would spread that over 2-3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    OK, it's fine I suppose to talk a player down when his form is poor but I can't understand what more you expect from Rooney at the moment, last week you made a comment that "the wheels had come off the Rooney bandwagon" when he "only" assisted a goal, I wanted to comment then but left it go, the other day you said the you had made the correct decision of going with Aguero ahead of Rooney, it's a bit premature to make a statement like that after one outstanding week. I've noticed these comments because I was contemplating getting Aguero in and I already have Rooney so they were relevant to my team.

    Rooney is a different type of striker to the three you mentioned, he has a game which is probably more to Hansen's liking(his physicality I suppose), Hansen knows a lot more about football than me and you, i'd say he's entitled to his opinion.

    I expect Rooney to at least match the players at his price point. Most people got Rooney in 4 GWs ago, I said I'd go for Aguero. For comparison since:

    Aguero missed that GW and has returned 23 points and still has to play today.

    Suarez has returned 46 points over the 4 GWs.

    Rooney has returned 26. That's with 180 minutes more played than Aguero who has yet to play today.

    Over the season, the reading doesn't get any better for Rooney:

    50 points over 654 minutes played for him.
    Aguero has 56 points in 409 minutes.
    Suarez has 46 points in 358 minutes.

    I'd also add, Aguero has had far more than one outstanding week. The stats above show he's been better than Rooney. Less minutes played, a GW less played, yet 6 points ahead over the season so far.

    Your last point is ridiculous. I actually respect Hansen most of the time but there are plenty of ex footballers who haven't a clue and talk through their arses. Ian Wright immediately comes to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I expect Rooney to at least match the players at his price point. Most people got Rooney in 4 GWs ago, I said I'd go for Aguero. For comparison since:

    Aguero missed that GW and has returned 23 points and still has to play today.

    Suarez has returned 46 points over the 4 GWs.

    Rooney has returned 26. That's with 180 minutes more played than Aguero who has yet to play today.

    Over the season, the reading doesn't get any better for Rooney:

    50 points over 654 minutes played for him.
    Aguero has 56 points in 409 minutes.
    Suarez has 46 points in 358 minutes.

    I'd also add, Aguero has had far more than one outstanding week. The stars above show he's been better than Rooney. Less minutes played, a GW less played, yet 6 points ahead over the season so far.

    Your last point is ridiculous. I actually respect Hansen most of the time but there are plenty of ex footballers who haven't a clue and talk through their arses. Ian Wright immediately comes to mind.

    Valid points all but just a little premature, points accrued don't always tell the story of what's to come, anyway you'll be able to shove all this up my hole later today;), don't write Rooney off when he's playing so well is all.

    As regards Hansen, I don't agree that Rooney is the best in the league at the moment by any means but he has qualities which the others don't, these are the kinds of qualities which are probably appreciated by old pro's, most likely defenders, I just said he's entitled to his opinion, do you think he's being dishonest or toeing the BBC line or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Valid points all but just a little premature, points accrued don't always tell the story of what's to come, anyway you'll be able to shove all this up my hole later today;), don't write Rooney off when he's playing so well is all.

    As regards Hansen, I don't agree that Rooney is the best in the league at the moment by any means but he has qualities which the others don't, these are the kinds of qualities which are probably appreciated by old pro's, most likely defenders, I just said he's entitled to his opinion, do you think he's being dishonest or toeing the BBC line or what?

    I play alot of this game based on history and previous stats and they have shown that, bar that one season, there are always better options than Rooney available. The stats above continue to show that this is the case again so far this season.

    This game is all about making the most of the budget available to you and Rooney doesn't do that.

    I just think he's rowing in with the usual English bias you get on the BBC. I pointed it out earlier in the season too. Ross Barkley got a five minute link on him yet Robbie Brady was superb with a goal, assist and almost a second assist yet barely got a mention.

    I also think its a ludicrous point for him to come out with given that Rooney could barely get his place at United six months ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,095 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Rooney v Aguero as players is hard to settle but as FF prospects the figures say Aguero is the better option but frustrating due to missed game time on certain weeks.


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