Speeding Fine Advice Please

The Sweeper · 26-04-2003 02:47AM #1

Lo lo, mates of mine rented a car the weekend before last. Rental from Dublin Airport on the way to a wedding in Clare. Frustrated by the 3 hour drive from the Airport to motorway on Friday morning, when the traffic cleared up a bit, my pal opened her up to a hardly-hell-raising 80kmph, whereupon an unmarked crossed four lanes of traffic and pulled him over.

There was some powerplay by our esteemed garda, (tyre kicking, windscreen checking, arsing about, time wasting etc.) followed by an €80 speeding fine, and a nice garda comment "I hope I haven't ruined your day". ("Yeah, I love getting fined, bring it on joymaker boy.")

Pals want to know this, they don't live in Ireland, what happens if they simply don't pay the fine?

Lump · 26-04-2003 03:02AM

To be fair, they shouldn't be speeding.......and you shouldnt be trying to give them a reason to get out of it....... If they leave the country the guards will find them....

John

WhiteWashMan · 26-04-2003 03:14AM

Originally posted by Lump
To be fair, they shouldn't be speeding.......and you shouldnt be trying to give them a reason to get out of it....... If they leave the country the guards will find them....

John

um, if they dont live in ireland and they leave the country, what exactky will the guards do?

they will find them?

yeh, and?

Silverfish · 26-04-2003 03:50AM

my pal opened her up to a hardly-hell-raising 80kmph

Do you know what the braking distance is at this speed??

Its at LEAST 92 metres.

On a dry road. On a wet road, it's 180 metres.

That's pretty hell raising, if someone in front of you has to stop suddenly, or a child runs out in front of you, wouldn't you say?

They broke the law. Pay the fine.

daveirl · 26-04-2003 10:05AM

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Tusky · 26-04-2003 10:23AM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
Lo lo, mates of mine rented a car the weekend before last. Rental from Dublin Airport on the way to a wedding in Clare. Frustrated by the 3 hour drive from the Airport to motorway on Friday morning, when the traffic cleared up a bit, my pal opened her up to a hardly-hell-raising 80kmph, whereupon an unmarked crossed four lanes of traffic and pulled him over.

There was some powerplay by our esteemed garda, (tyre kicking, windscreen checking, arsing about, time wasting etc.) followed by an €80 speeding fine, and a nice garda comment "I hope I haven't ruined your day". ("Yeah, I love getting fined, bring it on joymaker boy.")

Pals want to know this, they don't live in Ireland, what happens if they simply don't pay the fine?

your ignorance is like a chainsaw to my willy.....speeding = dead kiddies.....pay the bloody fine

Gordon · 26-04-2003 10:25AM

I've heard of people with tickets in UK and going off to another country (here I think it was) and they got caught. Surely the rental company would get the ticket if it isn't paid and the rental company would have the people's details?

I would wait and see if anyone finds you(them). Mind you, did you see that programme on UK TV about the bailiffs? Heh, they can enter your house if there is an opening.

Oh yeah, they shouldn't have been speeding in the first place etc etc. Maybe this should be in motors?

Samson · 26-04-2003 10:28AM

MAJD, you should have posted in the Motors forum.
You might have got a more sympathetic response.

Slydice · 26-04-2003 10:36AM

Your friend is scum.

Speeding Kills.

The Sweeper · 26-04-2003 10:37AM

Folks, don't get self righteous on me. I'm asking on a question. They're pi$$ed off that they got stopped because they were in a chain of traffic in the fast lane of the motorway, all doing similar speeds. (Some going faster indeed, because the driver remembers the car in front of him really pulling away.) An unmarked swerved across four lanes to pull them over. This isn't someone doing fifty on a back street where schoolchildren walk home. This isn't someone getting in the car after having three pints and driving home. This is someone doing ten miles over the legal speed limit in the fast lane of a motorway in the middle of the day (which, incidentally, was sunny and dry).

There are a couple of factors here - were they just unlucky to get picked out of the lot that were speeding? Did it have anything to do with the english reg on their hire car that they got picked out of all the other speeders? And why, when they were stopped, did the Garda do one of those poncey routines of taking 15 minutes to check out the hire car, and finally say to them 'I hope I haven't spoiled your day?'

I haven't 'advised' them about paying it either way thanks. Actually I think they should just pay it. (I can remember my brother getting a speeding fine years ago on holidays in Portugal. He left it, three months later a demand comes in the door of my folks house! Ever seen that 'screamer' scene in Harry Potter? That's pretty much the way my mother forwarded the demand on to him.)

I'm not looking for the moral high ground (I'd be interested if people would specify whether or not they own a car and drive at the top of each post actually), I'm looking for information on how Ireland process speeding fines and related stories from other people who've been fined.

daveirl · 26-04-2003 10:39AM

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Gordon · 26-04-2003 10:42AM

Heh the screamer scene.

Majydee I would, as already suggested, make a new thread in the motors section - it has a large amount of traffic (heh) and Monty may not be able to move this over until later today.

The Sweeper · 26-04-2003 10:44AM

Oh FFS

MODS PLEASE BUMP ME OVER TO MOTORS

because with the level of preaching going on here I'm tempted to touch my screen for salvation

If you can't answer the original question, the please don't post. I'm not interested in hearing 'speed kills, you're scum etc.' The recommended limit on the Autobahn in Germany is 81mph. There their speed would have been legal. This thread was never intended as a venue for a pile of pedestrians to get self righteous, its purpose was a question.

Doodee · 26-04-2003 11:00AM

afaik they take your address, so if you dont pay you are issued with a hearing for court, or something like that.

What i remember is last time when we didnt pay it, a few weeks later we recieved a letter saying that we had to goto court, for not paying the fine.

this fine was only 20e and was a parking fine, but after it we just made sure to pay for speeding fines, the same thing happened my parents madj, the squad car was chasing another car that got away but pulled over my parents instead.

But there is a point, you should not be speeding reguardless, the law does not wave its rules for anyone other than politicians, and u can thank the constitution for that.

Gud luk to your friends madj

Mercury_Tilt · 26-04-2003 11:04AM

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Gordon · 26-04-2003 11:27AM

I thought you were in Dublin Merc? Loads of friends of mine are in Ealing/Northolt. They go to the Spinning wheel all the time.

/off topic

DMT · 26-04-2003 12:40PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
whereupon an unmarked crossed four lanes of traffic

Where the hell is there a motorway in Ireland with four lanes?

Pals want to know this, they don't live in Ireland, what happens if they simply don't pay the fine?

The bastards should be jailed for six months, then deported and banned from ever coming back into the country.

SPEEDING KILLS!!!

Lump · 26-04-2003 01:09PM

Hmmm, I was a little hasty with my previous reply. The Police have the car reg, they will probably just bill the rental company. I'm sure there is some kind of safety device for rental companies that they will find out that a fine was given to some one driving the car. So they willl probably just be charged when they leave the car back. If not, I'm sure they will be chased up sometime, either through the rental company or via a letter of summonds to their house. Pay the fine, its what, 50 Euro? Also, we aren't in germany. Its not an autobahn and the speed limit isn't 80Mph....... So saying that won't change anyones views. I've driven on the Autobahns...... They are a lot bigger, better quality and people tend alot more to stick to the limits. As it happens they were in Ireland, motorways are ****e, and short...... and not four lanes. No excuses, pay the fine, it'll save alot or hassell. #

My two cent!

John

Speeding Kills!

daveirl · 26-04-2003 01:15PM

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pickarooney · 26-04-2003 01:27PM

Only a small percentage of Autobahns have no speed limit, it's 130kph on the rest, IIRC.

daveg · 26-04-2003 01:36PM

FFS 80mph on the motorway isn't that bad. Tell me this all the folks who have posted speed kills have you ever done 40 in a 30 ? or 65 in a 55 or even (as 90% I would say here have) 80 on the motorway ? Not saying it's right but don't be so hypocritical

Anyway..... I was done for 40 in a 30 in the UK a few years back. Had a chat with my solicitor. Don't have to pay it... they wont prosecute but if I was ever done over there again they would see I had an unpaid fine - so I paid it. However I wouldn't imagine the Garda's tracability would be as good as the Uk :rolleyes:

The Sweeper · 26-04-2003 02:28PM

Four lanes being two going one way and two going another, plus two hard shoulders... dunno where the unmarked was when he pulled them over, they told me four lanes so I'm assuming he came off the hard shoulder in the opposite lane, crossed two lanes and pulled in behind them - hence the 'four'.

DMT I requested that people give up the preaching and reply on topic. You can print "I'm a gobsh1te who doesn't know how to make a coherent point in an argument" in 50 foot high letters for all I care, your comments are still pointless. This isn't about 'the crime', this is about how the Irish system prosecutes traffic offences.

I would assume that, because of the major crackdown on drink driving and the new penalty points system it would be foolhardy for my friends not to pay their speeding fine.

DMT and your little Jesus Krispie co-preacher pals, perhaps if you were to respond with something like "Speeding is illegal for a reason - because it's dangerous. It's so dangerous, the Irish government has introduced strict guidelines monitoring driving and behaviour on the roads, guidelines that cover speed, drink driving, wearing of seatbelts etc. Hence they will go to some lengths to collect on a speeding fine - it's better paid and the offence not committed again" you'd make a better point.

However I understand that may be too much to type, especially one-handed, your other hand being permanently occupied in onanism...

WhiteWashMan · 26-04-2003 02:40PM

Originally posted by DMT

SPEEDING KILLS!!!

hitting someone at the legal limit will also kill them....

ballooba · 26-04-2003 03:02PM

The fact that your mates were doing more than 10% over the speed limit means that they deserved to get pulled over. I think 10% is the threshold the Gardaí use.

The fact that they were driving a yellow reg means that the Gardaí were more likely to pull them over too, there are too many drivers from the north coming down here and taking the piss because they think they can't be fined.

For the above reason i'm suprised the garda in question didn't make them pay on the spot but i don't know if they will track them down.

DMT · 26-04-2003 03:05PM

Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
Four lanes being two going one way and two going another, plus two hard shoulders... dunno where the unmarked was when he pulled them over, they told me four lanes so I'm assuming he came off the hard shoulder in the opposite lane, crossed two lanes and pulled in behind them - hence the 'four'.

That's physically impossible on a motorway without flattening the hedges running down the middle - Sounds like they where on a *dual carriage-way*, in which case they where breaking the limit by 20mph.

And how is someone driving at 80mph able to tell that a car behind and on the other side of the road has "crossed 4 lanes" to catch-up with them? Do your friends have eyes on the back of their heads?

This isn't about 'the crime', this is about how the Irish system prosecutes traffic offences.

No, it's about how you want to help your friends dodge the Irish traffic offences prosecution system.

DMT and your little Jesus Krispie co-preacher pals, perhaps if you were to respond with something like "[edit]yada yada[/edit]" you'd make a better point.

I think I made my point perfectly.

However I understand that may be too much to type, especially one-handed, your other hand being permanently occupied in onanism(masturbation)...

That was a cheap shot.

I like it.

DMT · 26-04-2003 03:07PM

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
hitting someone at the legal limit will also kill them....

Now that's pedantic...

Lump · 26-04-2003 05:20PM

WWM, I think the point of the speeding kills is that its harder to control a car. Also going faster means longer stopping time etc...... Stop trying to stir it :P

John

I love ya really

The Sweeper · 26-04-2003 05:22PM

Originally posted by DMT
Do your friends have eyes on the back of their heads?

...yes? Dont yours?

kaimera · 26-04-2003 05:26PM

I heard this one in work last week.

Get them to pay by cheque but make the cheque out for more than the fine.

They cant give you back change from a cheque so they'll send you back the cheque asking you to send back the right amount.

the records will say they received your fine.

Silent Bob · 26-04-2003 05:36PM

Originally posted by DMT
SPEEDING KILLS!!!

That's a load of bull.

Rephrase it to "inappropriate speed kills" and I'd agree with you.

Travelling at 100mph on an empty motorway with enough visibility to justify driving at 100mph and in good clear weather is no more dangerous than doing 70mph.

Travelling at 55 down some of the back roads (marked as end of specific speed limit roads, ie 60mph) that are barely wide enough to fit two cars past each other is bloody dangerous, but not speeding.

I really dislike this myopic perception that breaking the speed limit kills.

daveirl · 26-04-2003 05:56PM

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