LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Scortho · 22-10-2013 09:04PM

rovoagho wrote: »

Is an XJR a barge though? I'd call it a supersaloon, alongside the M5, Lotus Carlton, etc. Can we have a supersaloons thread, can we, can we?

Nah Id call it a barge...the think is frickin massive.

you could put some luxobarges in the supersaloon category and vica versa.
While an m5 isnt a barge, if you see one for less than 4k, pop her in here and make my day:D

Marcusm · 22-10-2013 09:09PM

I woudn't have classed an XJR as a barge; I think you'd need a LWB version as the back is very tight. Having set out to buy a Jag barge, the F02 BMW 750Li I bought (with. A mate) has turned out to need quite a bit of TLC post purchase - some of which was rep'd as having been done. After 6 weeks or so of ownership, trips to south of France/north Spain and Devon (both from London), it is a pleasure to drive and behaves more like a sports saloon than a barge.

ba_barabus · 22-10-2013 09:14PM

Marcusm wrote: »

it is a pleasure to drive and behaves more like a sports saloon than a barge.

I posted this argument weeks ago that a car which majored on comfort was a barge and one which had large doses of driver involvement wasn't.

I got shouted down.

MadYaker · 22-10-2013 09:15PM

Jag's flagship car isn't a barge????

Marcusm · 22-10-2013 09:17PM

ba_barabus wrote: »

I posted this argument weeks ago that a car which majored on comfort was a barge and one which had large doses of driver involvement wasn't.

I got shouted down.

No one should put Barabus in the corner!

I'm not saying it's not barge, just that it handles a lot better than might be expected.

ba_barabus · 22-10-2013 09:18PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Jag's flagship car isn't a barge????

Their flagship car is, it's a Daimler Double 6.

Marcusm · 22-10-2013 09:18PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Jag's flagship car isn't a barge????

Jag's flagship would have been a Super v8 or a Daimler Super Eight. Basically, LWB versions of the XJR with more wood than fake carbon fibre interiors.

ba_barabus · 22-10-2013 09:20PM

ba_barabus wrote: »

Their flagship car is, it's a Daimler Double 6.

Marcusm wrote: »

Daimler Super Eight.

I really need to think past Jags of the 70's

Jesus. · 22-10-2013 10:28PM

Marcusm wrote: »

No one should put Barabus in the corner!

No, but they should've put him on the cross instead of me :P

ba_barabus · 22-10-2013 10:29PM

Marcusm wrote: »

No one should put Barabus in the corner!

I only just spotted that

rovoagho · 22-10-2013 11:32PM

Marcusm wrote: »

I woudn't have classed an XJR as a barge; I think you'd need a LWB version as the back is very tight.

Exactly. And the Rs don't come in LWB so... not a barge, supersaloon. Which isn't too say I won't have one, albeit in 100 guise. Just as soon as I can afford the Brembos.....

Atlantic Dawn · 22-10-2013 11:47PM

What puts me off the Merc S500's/S320's, Audi A8's and Range Rovers is the air suspension, it's a mental price to repair if it goes wrong, more than the cost of the vehicle in most cases. When these cars age it's one big job on the horizon.

Jesus. · 23-10-2013 12:28AM

rovoagho wrote: »

not a barge, supersaloon.

I thought a supersaloon was a barge?

Whereas a Luxobarge is an expensive barge

Voodoomelon · 23-10-2013 12:35AM

Marcusm wrote: »

I woudn't have classed an XJR as a barge; I think you'd need a LWB version as the back is very tight. Having set out to buy a Jag barge, the F02 BMW 750Li I bought (with. A mate) has turned out to need quite a bit of TLC post purchase - some of which was rep'd as having been done. After 6 weeks or so of ownership, trips to south of France/north Spain and Devon (both from London), it is a pleasure to drive and behaves more like a sports saloon than a barge.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of TLC?

Eric Cartman · 23-10-2013 03:17PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What puts me off the Merc S500's/S320's, Audi A8's and Range Rovers is the air suspension, it's a mental price to repair if it goes wrong, more than the cost of the vehicle in most cases. When these cars age it's one big job on the horizon.

Ive always meant to have a go at one of these vehicles, trucks and busses all use air suspension and its reliable there, retrofit kits for pickups and others work well too , there must be a cheaper way of maintaining the air suspension, the bags and lines are cheap enough , it just seems to be compressors and valves that are expensive but Id say theres a way around this.

a lot of these vehicles also have coil kits available too

Marcusm · 23-10-2013 03:23PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of TLC?

Front coil springs, front discs and pads, rear pads, new tyres and (eventually) 2 new rear alloys - not spotted before ruining 2 new rear tyres.

There are outstanding claims in respect of some items.

BillJ · 23-10-2013 04:22PM

Marcusm wrote: »

Front coil springs, front discs and pads, rear pads, new tyres and (eventually) 2 new rear alloys - not spotted before ruining 2 new rear tyres.

There are outstanding claims in respect of some items.

Sorry to hear it. Were the pads, discs and tyres not evident that they needed changing?

Marcusm · 23-10-2013 04:59PM

BillJ wrote: »

Sorry to hear it. Were the pads, discs and tyres not evident that they needed changing?

Brakes were stated to have been changed - not explicit as between discs or pads but neither had been touched. Tyres had 2mm of thread on collection - on inspection a few days before they seemed to have plenty of thread. Hmmmm, glad my co owner is a solicitor. In any event, it was still a fair discount to book value including the work. It's the misreps which are galling.

delthedriver · 24-10-2013 04:06PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Jag's flagship car isn't a barge????

Daimler Sovereign Super V8 LWB , surely that is Jaguar's flagship luxobarge:):)

unkel · 24-10-2013 04:14PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Daimler Sovereign Super V8 LWB , surely that is Jaguar's flagship luxobarge:):)

The "Double Six" is closer

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 24-10-2013 04:16PM

unkel wrote: »

The "Double Six" is closer

It is (and I would love one) but they don't make that anymore, mores the pity.
Stupid EU emissions crap and high fuel taxes.

We need the US model of 0 fuel taxation

Marcusm · 24-10-2013 04:45PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Daimler Sovereign Super V8 LWB , surely that is Jaguar's flagship luxobarge:):)

The most recent version (2009) was a Daimler Super Eight. Super V8 was appropriated for the Jag equivalent.

delthedriver · 24-10-2013 04:50PM

unkel wrote: »

The "Double Six" is closer

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C441541

Still it would be hard to pass this one:)

unkel · 24-10-2013 07:25PM

BRG is the right colour for sure

bear1 · 25-10-2013 11:49AM

I'm really not sure where to put this GTA.... too expensive for a bangernomic and not enough luxury for a luxobarge, but for the engine alone I thought it was best suited in here

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-alfa-romeo-156-gta-3-2-v6-taxed/5882186

He should have taken a pic of the engine and it is definitely not the only one in Ireland

Marlow · 25-10-2013 11:56AM

bear1 wrote: »

it is definitely not the only one in Ireland

Nope. I know of a few. So that assumption is way off. There's also a lad here in Athlone, that has one on foreign reg. Stunning car.

/M

bear1 · 25-10-2013 11:59AM

Yeah I've seen one or 2 in Galway, one is a 147 and the other a 156. Lovely noise of them

Scortho · 25-10-2013 12:16PM

bear1 wrote: »

I'm really not sure where to put this GTA.... too expensive for a bangernomic and not enough luxury for a luxobarge, but for the engine alone I thought it was best suited in here

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-alfa-romeo-156-gta-3-2-v6-taxed/5882186

He should have taken a pic of the engine and it is definitely not the only one in Ireland

I know of at least 3!:pac:
No mention of belts either.
Change of owner in the last few weeks as well.

I'm tempted to go tyre kicking....

bear1 · 25-10-2013 12:20PM

Scortho wrote: »

I know of at least 3!:pac:
No mention of belts either.
Change of owner in the last few weeks as well.

I'm tempted to go tyre kicking....

At that mileage those belts and pump would want to have been done.
If you do go, I'd bargain in the price of the belts - so what about 600e?

MadYaker · 25-10-2013 12:25PM

Is that engine built by alfa? I heard it was a bit of a lemon.

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