Clare GAA discussion thread

Clareman · 21-10-2013 10:01PM

Ballyea and Clonlara are both looking to have the games put back by a week, Ballyea because of Clonegad still in the football, Clonlara because of O'Donovan not being available

windy shepard henderson · 21-10-2013 10:51PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

S/F eire og v lissyceasy

kilrush/cratloe v doonbeg/Clondegad/cooreclare

this now has changed for some reason

the semi final picture looks like this
kilrush/cratloe v eire og

lissyceasy v doonbeg/Clondegad/cooreclare

Boots234 · 21-10-2013 11:02PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

this now has changed for some reason

the semi final picture looks like this
kilrush/cratloe v eire og

lissyceasy v doonbeg/Clondegad/cooreclare

Cratloe v Eire Og would be a good game. Lissycasey look good but they haven't played in a long time so that could come against them in the semi, probably against Doonbeg. If the Ballyea game is pushed back a week will they go ahead with the plan of playing a game on Friday and next Monday? There can't be too many county championships, at any grade,left in the country that still have 7 teams remaining!

Hidalgo · 22-10-2013 08:01PM

Clareman wrote: »

Ballyea and Clonlara are both looking to have the games put back by a week, Ballyea because of Clonegad still in the football, Clonlara because of O'Donovan not being available

Think they're also asking the Munster Council to postpone Munster club for a week. That request will almost certainly be turned down.

If they postpone the semi finals, the only other option is to play county final Saturday and Munster club 24 hours later.

Clareman · 22-10-2013 09:12PM

Davy and his back room team have been confirmed for another 3 years. I can't imagine the Munster Council pushing it back for another week, but I suppose all the County Board can do is ask

windy shepard henderson · 22-10-2013 09:28PM

Clareman wrote: »

Davy and his back room team have been confirmed for another 3 years. I can't imagine the Munster Council pushing it back for another week, but I suppose all the County Board can do is ask

sound bites dont seem so good so far, i taught the cork county board agreed to put the fixture back a week? a few weeks ago?

colm collins is to be appointed football manager for the next few years tonight, i wonder will he try to turn his two hurling son's into duel county players.

both podge and sean played football for clare before quiting to join the hurling setup!!! im sure they would find it hard to turn down there father's request to come back on board but i doubt they will given how hard it is becoming to find places on the hurling team.

Clareman · 22-10-2013 09:32PM

Cork agree to go back a week, so the Munster council didn't have anything to debate, pushing back their competition by a week would put a lot of pressure on the whole thing so I can't see that happening.

Clareman · 22-10-2013 09:52PM

Fixtures meeting at 11am tomorrow morning to arrange the semi-finals.

thinkstoomuch1 · 22-10-2013 09:55PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

sound bites dont seem so good so far, i taught the cork county board agreed to put the fixture back a week? a few weeks ago?

colm collins is to be appointed football manager for the next few years tonight, i wonder will he try to turn his two hurling son's into duel county players.

both podge and sean played football for clare before quiting to join the hurling setup!!! im sure they would find it hard to turn down there father's request to come back on board but i doubt they will given how hard it is becoming to find places on the hurling team.

Cork did agree alright.

Jesus thats a tough call for Podge ,if the father wants him to do both.

I can't imagine Davy facliating dual players.
Podge is gifted but there is a lot of young talent in Clare,so Davy holds all the aces,and i would imagine would make him choose.

Who would you fancy to win the county?and have a better chance in Munster?

Clonlara on paper look strong but i don't know much bout the rest.

The cork final is in two wks,tg4 are doing it i think,the cork champions have home advantage.

If i was a clare man i would want sars to win as their very beatable in Munster.

The standard is not great in cork club hurling but midelton would have more potential.

Sars are made of ex cork intercounty men at minor ,u21 and senior and grand in the comfort zone of the county, go up a level in Munster quite beatable.

Bar Fraggie murphy ex cork captain,kearney,and connor sullivan, there is a lot of just good club hurlers.

Midelton have lehane on fire,Nagle, and O farell on hes day a real danger man.

windy shepard henderson · 22-10-2013 11:32PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Cork did agree alright.

Jesus thats a tough call for Podge ,if the father wants him to do both.

I can't imagine Davy facliating dual players.
Podge is gifted but there is a lot of young talent in Clare,so Davy holds all the aces,and i would imagine would make him choose.

Who would you fancy to win the county?and have a better chance in Munster?

Clonlara on paper look strong but i don't know much bout the rest.

The cork final is in two wks,tg4 are doing it i think,the cork champions have home advantage.

If i was a clare man i would want sars to win as their very beatable in Munster.

The standard is not great in cork club hurling but midelton would have more potential.

Sars are made of ex cork intercounty men at minor ,u21 and senior and grand in the comfort zone of the county, go up a level in Munster quite beatable.

Bar Fraggie murphy ex cork captain,kearney,and connor sullivan, there is a lot of just good club hurlers.

Midelton have lehane on fire,Nagle, and O farell on hes day a real danger man.

its too close to call in the last 4 newmarket would be favorites with colin ryan as there main scoring treat they play the young ballyea side with a number of u21 and and senior panelists there main man tony kelly on fire for them, scored 10 points at the weekend one of the a free from inside his own 45

clonlara play sixmilebridige and dispite having so many county players it is too hard to call it would be classed as a shock if newmarket didnt make the final, but any thing is possible at this stage,and too close to call!!

as for the munster club, i could'nt see any clare side beat whoever come's out of cork as the championship here has been slapped together in the last few weeks with no one knowing whats happening half the time. and plus the fact that neither cork team sound easy to beat

thinkstoomuch1 · 23-10-2013 12:47PM

Munster hurling senior club semi put back a week til the 17th,it will be on in pairc u caoimh most likely.

Boots234 · 23-10-2013 02:40PM

Clareman wrote: »

Fixtures meeting at 11am tomorrow morning to arrange the semi-finals.

Any update from this meeting?

cgarvey · 23-10-2013 02:49PM

Boots234 wrote: »

Any update from this meeting?

Semis to be played on W/E of 2/3 Nov. One of each code on each day.

Hurling SF:
Sat 2nd Nov: Sixmilebridge v Clonlara
Sun 3rd Nov: Newmarket-on-Fergus v Ballyea

Given Ballyea's dual players won't be helped by the move, is the only reason for the move now down to one single player not being available?

redzerologhlen · 23-10-2013 03:09PM

Im not too well up on the football side of things but do ye think Colm Collins will bring much improvement to the table?

Clareman · 23-10-2013 03:16PM

I think someone who is interested in football and is willing to give 3 (or more) years to develop things will go a long way to develop Clare football.

Hidalgo · 23-10-2013 07:37PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Cork did agree alright.

Jesus thats a tough call for Podge ,if the father wants him to do both.

I can't imagine Davy facliating dual players.
Podge is gifted but there is a lot of young talent in Clare,so Davy holds all the aces,and i would imagine would make him choose.

Who would you fancy to win the county?and have a better chance in Munster?

Clonlara on paper look strong but i don't know much bout the rest.

The cork final is in two wks,tg4 are doing it i think,the cork champions have home advantage.

If i was a clare man i would want sars to win as their very beatable in Munster.

The standard is not great in cork club hurling but midelton would have more potential.

Sars are made of ex cork intercounty men at minor ,u21 and senior and grand in the comfort zone of the county, go up a level in Munster quite beatable.

Bar Fraggie murphy ex cork captain,kearney,and connor sullivan, there is a lot of just good club hurlers.

Midelton have lehane on fire,Nagle, and O farell on hes day a real danger man.

I'd say Newmarket would give Munster the best shot of the 4 remaining sides as they won it last year and would possibly be best tuned in for a crack at the provincials. For the other 3 it would be something newer and winning county would be seen as a great achievement with Munster simply a bonus

windy shepard henderson · 23-10-2013 07:54PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Im not too well up on the football side of things but do ye think Colm Collins will bring much improvement to the table?

very good apointment a huge step up from what we had over the past few years

in 2012 the kilmurry ibrickane players refused to play for michael mcdermot which formed a chain reaction around the county meaning the team that faced cork in the munster final were nearly all in intermediate players bar 4 or 5 which gave us no hope

this year was a bigger farce with micko dwyer turning up for traning once in a blue moon, he never seemed bothered and talking to players for the county at the time they could'nt care less ethir as they knew he had no intrest.

the main aim for collins would be to gain promation to at the very least division 3 and to make the county footballers compitive again , somthing that has been missing for the last 10 years

the club football sceane in clare is as good as anywhere else but we always have had problems translating that to inter county level

its a big job but i have no doubt in 3 years time there will be a better outlook t'words clare football at inter county level

False Prophet · 23-10-2013 09:29PM

Clare football needs to pick the right players.
First they are overdue a clearout of most of the older senior players + blowins. Young fit hungry players are what is needed that can be molded into a team that doesnt fall to pieces/throw in the towel when playing cork/kerry etc. Past history should not be accepted as an excuse.

Major update of tactics/style needed (playing 15 men in positions or moving your best midfielder into full forward and lumping the ball is something from the dark ages).

Most important is that a system is put into place that brings the best trainers/systems for the underage players (like the hurlers did when they went to kilkenny etc to see what systems they were doing.)

Its not an easy fix but with the right changes clare should at least be competitive like they were at times in the 90's and build from there.

windy shepard henderson · 23-10-2013 10:21PM

False Prophet wrote: »

Clare football needs to pick the right players.
First they are overdue a clearout of most of the older senior players + blowins. Young fit hungry players are what is needed that can be molded into a team that doesnt fall to pieces/throw in the towel when playing cork/kerry etc. Past history should not be accepted as an excuse.

Major update of tactics/style needed (playing 15 men in positions or moving your best midfielder into full forward and lumping the ball is something from the dark ages).

Most important is that a system is put into place that brings the best trainers/systems for the underage players (like the hurlers did when they went to kilkenny etc to see what systems they were doing.)

Its not an easy fix but with the right changes clare should at least be competitive like they were at times in the 90's and build from there.

infairness they have overhauled the underage system simular to the hurlers but you cant expect the same type of end product

at minor level we look strong, storng in the sense that we are at a stage where we are putting it up to kerry/tippeary and cork to the point where if we lose there is no more then a kick of a ball in it, kerry and tipp are the bench mark of underage football and we are not that far behind

there is a lot of dead wood in the past few seasons for clare but i expect colm and ger to ditch alot of them in place of the younger lads at clubs like cratloe (non hurlers) eire og and doora barefield, lissycasy and ennisymon all have impresive players coming through

the picture is changing big time in west clare at the moment kilkee are dying on there feet doonbeg dont have any underage setup any more and cooreclare are fielding 3 adult teams and are nowhere near proudceing a player good enough for the county bar rory donnelly

clondegad are another example of the new guard in clare football and as comented here before miltown have some excellent young lads there as well most of these were good enough this year for selection but micko didnt bother his arse to look for them and mcdermot before him did'nt t'words the end

Boots234 · 24-10-2013 10:12AM

Any word on whether they are going ahead with both Clondegad v Cooraclare and Doonbeg versus the winners this weekend? They will be very tight for time of they don't

Hidalgo · 24-10-2013 07:22PM

Boots234 wrote: »

Any word on whether they are going ahead with both Clondegad v Cooraclare and Doonbeg versus the winners this weekend? They will be very tight for time of they don't

Cooraclare V Clonegad is on in Kilmihil at 7.30 tomorrow night with the winner playing Doonbeg in the Q final on Bank Holiday Monday.
Or that's what I was told today by a player involved tomorrow night

rambojon · 24-10-2013 09:47PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

Cooraclare V Clonegad is on in Kilmihil at 7.30 tomorrow night with the winner playing Doonbeg in the Q final on Bank Holiday Monday.

Or that's what I was told today by a player involved tomorrow night

did he offer any insights into what way the game might go..? injuries of any type will significantly hinder any title hopes of these teams given the proximity of the games.. teams already in semi have big advantage imho.. townies will be tough to beat.:cool::cool:

keeponhurling · 25-10-2013 03:36PM

False Prophet wrote: »

Clare football needs to pick the right players.
First they are overdue a clearout of most of the older senior players + blowins. Young fit hungry players are what is needed that can be molded into a team that doesnt fall to pieces/throw in the towel when playing cork/kerry etc. Past history should not be accepted as an excuse.

Major update of tactics/style needed (playing 15 men in positions or moving your best midfielder into full forward and lumping the ball is something from the dark ages).

Most important is that a system is put into place that brings the best trainers/systems for the underage players (like the hurlers did when they went to kilkenny etc to see what systems they were doing.)

Its not an easy fix but with the right changes clare should at least be competitive like they were at times in the 90's and build from there.

Well it looks like the necessary overhaul won't be taking place during the McGrath Cup anyways, as Clare withdrew.

Tricky for Collins, coming in as a new manager trying to get players interested in playing for Clare.
Plus threat of withdrawal from league + Munster championship from 2015

Boots234 · 25-10-2013 08:56PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

Cooraclare V Clonegad is on in Kilmihil at 7.30 tomorrow night with the winner playing Doonbeg in the Q final on Bank Holiday Monday.
Or that's what I was told today by a player involved tomorrow night

Cooraclare won by 3 points, tough game against Doonbeg on Monday but the game tonight should stand to them

angelfire9 · 25-10-2013 09:39PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Well it looks like the necessary overhaul won't be taking place during the McGrath Cup anyways, as Clare withdrew.

Tricky for Collins, coming in as a new manager trying to get players interested in playing for Clare.
Plus threat of withdrawal from league + Munster championship from 2015

This is a very good point what are they going to do instead? Sit on their collective butts and wait for 2015?

windy shepard henderson · 26-10-2013 07:35PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Well it looks like the necessary overhaul won't be taking place during the McGrath Cup anyways, as Clare withdrew.

Tricky for Collins, coming in as a new manager trying to get players interested in playing for Clare.
Plus threat of withdrawal from league + Munster championship from 2015

I Doubt they will withdraw from the league, the most likley out come if any change would be taking part in the F.B.D connacht league like they did in the 90's instead of the mcgrath

the only way to get the county team to improve is through the league and playing at a higher level against better teams,

i dont think not taking part in the mcgrath cup is a bad thing as most of the players play l for there collages anyway

the good thing for colm is he is taking over at a time where there is a large pool of young players coming through to over haul the team, i am sure he will go look for them unlike past managers half arsed attempts

windy shepard henderson · 27-10-2013 05:18PM

the clare hurlers ......AHEM.....:pac: sorry i ment to say cratloe had a good win over kilrush in the football championship winning 2-06 to 0-07 fergal lynch being there best player,

they play eire og next week in the semi final which should be a cracker,

well done to lissycasy who won the minor final by a point aswell , as a man who hails from a rival parish it can be hard to say

, but what i heard they deserved to win it!!!

Clareman · 27-10-2013 08:26PM

Tulla beat Barefield yesterday, so it's Barefield vs. Clarecastle to see who plays senior next year, considering both teams were the cornerstones of the teams of the 90s it shows the shift in hurling power from mid to east Clare

Hidalgo · 27-10-2013 08:29PM

I'd say Barefield to make the drop to Senior B for me.

In football today, cratloe beat Kilrush in Quarter finals, the final quarter final takes place tomorrow between Cooralare and Doonbeg.

Clareman · 27-10-2013 08:32PM

I'd imagine Barefield will make the drop as well, I'd recommend anyone read Christy O'Connor's book to find out a lot of the reasons behind the demise of Barefield hurling, saying that I'm not a fan of dressing room books either.

As for the football, it's hard to know who'll win that it's wide open really, I guess Cratloe will fancy their chances but the conditions won't suit them from now on.

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