Russell Brand preaching revolution on Paxman Last Night

beezowdoodoo · 24-10-2013 02:08PM #1

So last night Russell was on Jeremy Paxman's show talking about how he doesn't vote because he knows the ruling class will just **** him and his in the arse again like they have since history began and how change and revolution is coming as people become aware of the farcical nature of the current governmental systems through the information liberating qualities of the internet. The video is well worth the watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk

I believe in what he says, but then again I am an idealist. I think he comes across like John Lennon with bells on, and looking back at it now his career does have some similarities to Lennon's. i for one look forward to our new peaceful, loving overlords.

iDave · 24-10-2013 02:09PM

Saw it last night. Talking incoherent rubbish, don't know why Paxman bothered.

Lollipops23 · 24-10-2013 02:12PM

Russell Brand can do my head in when he does stand up, but reading his articles for the Guardian is always great. I was shocked at how articulate and intelligent he came across the first time I read one.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 24-10-2013 02:13PM

beezowdoodoo wrote: »

I think he comes across like John Lennon with bells on, and looking back at it now his career does have some similarities to Lennon's.

I hope so.

...

I kid, I kid.

El_Dangeroso · 24-10-2013 02:13PM

beezowdoodoo wrote: »

the ruling class will just **** him

Says the multi-millionaire.

beezowdoodoo · 24-10-2013 02:17PM

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Says the multi-millionaire.

Who didn't come from it and came to it by clowning.

Bexley Purring Widower wrote: »

I hope so.

...

I kid, I kid.

I have 10,000 t-shirts with his face on ready for selling on that fateful day.

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-10-2013 02:18PM

Big fan of David Icke so he is

beezowdoodoo · 24-10-2013 02:20PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Big fan of David Icke so he is

As much as David suffers from paranoid delusions of lizards ruling the world he actually has some interesting things to say about that don't involve the transdimensional iguanas.

BabyGorilla · 24-10-2013 02:21PM

He makes me think of Jez from Peepshow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARyhJdMvy4s

conorhal · 24-10-2013 02:24PM

The Arab spring painfully underlined the limitations of on-line protest and democracy. Technology seems to trivialize and silo individuals while drowning everything else in banality.
I suspect his revolution's sole achievement (if it ever came to pass) would be the election 'Primeminister LOL Cat'.

With the Snowden affair etc, there is much debate at the moment as to whether or not technology is slowly creeping towards creating an 'Orwellian big brother society' , a far greater danger was outlined by Aldpous Huxley

http://www.highexistence.com/amusing-ourselves-to-death-huxley-vs-orwell/

jimgoose · 24-10-2013 02:24PM

Mr. Brand is a pseudo-intellectual, overpaid middle-class media luvvie with abandonment issues and I would love to rip his arm off and beat him to death with it.

Banjo String · 24-10-2013 02:26PM

What a tit.

Didn't even watch the video either

sok2005 · 24-10-2013 02:26PM

You gotta admire his passion. You could probably just sell old Che Guevara T-shirts and pass him off as Brand!

ruthloss · 24-10-2013 02:28PM

iDave wrote: »

Saw it last night. Talking incoherent rubbish, don't know why Paxman bothered.

I just watched the Vid. I could not say any of it was 'incoherent'.

Nodin · 24-10-2013 02:28PM

beezowdoodoo wrote: »

So last night Russell was on Jeremy Paxman's show talking about how he doesn't vote because he knows the ruling class will just **** him and his in the arse again like they have since history began and how change and revolution is coming as people become aware of the farcical nature of the current governmental systems through the information liberating qualities of the internet..

....god love his optimism.

Jimoslimos · 24-10-2013 02:30PM

Some good points but probably veers too far down the socialist path. Voter apathy or disillusion is a big problem in the UK, the current "first past the post" electoral system does little to counter this. (Hence the Conservatives campaigning for it to be kept)

He has a tendency to waffle in interviews but his writing can be rather good. Especially the piece he did on Margaret Thatcher a few years back, well worth dragging up every time some revisionist tries to tell us about her "great legacy"

beezowdoodoo · 24-10-2013 02:31PM

Actually his other appearance on Pax is worth the watch if you haven't seen that one either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYM7SzJMKns

conorhal wrote: »

The Arab spring painfully underlined the limitations of on-line protest and democracy. Technology seems to trivialize and silo individuals while drowning everything else in banality.
I suspect his revolution's sole achievement (if it ever came to pass) would be the election 'Primeminister LOL Cat'.

With the Snowden affair etc, there is much debate at the moment as to whether or not technology is slowly creeping towards creating an 'Orwellian big brother society' , a far greater danger was outlined by Aldpous Huxley

http://www.highexistence.com/amusing-ourselves-to-death-huxley-vs-orwell/

I think the power of illumination the internet has is equal to or greater than it's nullifying effect. And sure if it's the other way I have a lovely warm tech-opiate coma to look forward to. It's a win-win.

Banjo String wrote: »

What a tit.

Didn't even watch the video either

*crickets*

LuckyLloyd · 24-10-2013 02:36PM

If the Internet was achieving what he and his ilk claims it is then we wouldn't have recent studies demonstrating the horrible extent to which the general British Public Perception is wide of the mark. We have more access to information than ever before, but it isn't producing a more clued in and perceptive electorate.

The truth is that people have zero interest in seeing through the looking glass. The Daily Mail online is a sensation of the times. A news website successfully identifying and furnishing oceans of the type of information people want. Doesn't smell like revolution in the air to me...

Temptamperu · 24-10-2013 02:37PM

I don't know why people don't like Brand. Hes a smart and articulate individual who has over come much adversity in life to get where he is now.

Oh maybe I know, jealousy is an awful thing.

Jonny7 · 24-10-2013 02:45PM

This is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDCtFTyw6fI

Call Me Jimmy · 24-10-2013 02:48PM

He's a good lad.

Is idealism completely dead inside people who couldn't stand to even listen to him speak?
Fair enough if he grates you irrespective of what he's saying.

He's not really talking ground-breaking stuff there, admits he is completely unqualified, and his bit is in promoting and popularising the ideas.
As he said, he's hardly going to outline the next generation global political system, but his heart is undoubtedly in the right place and I don't understand the balking.

ruthloss · 24-10-2013 03:01PM

beezowdoodoo wrote: »

Actually his other appearance on Pax is worth the watch if you haven't seen that one either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYM7SzJMKns

I watched that one just now., quite honestly I liked it.

Khannie · 24-10-2013 03:04PM

beezowdoodoo wrote: »

I think the power of illumination the internet has is equal to or greater than it's nullifying effect.

For now.

endacl · 24-10-2013 03:05PM

Randy Bustle = John Lennon? Seriously?!?

wretcheddomain · 24-10-2013 03:06PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

He's a good lad.

Is idealism completely dead inside people who couldn't stand to even listen to him speak?
Fair enough if he grates you irrespective of what he's saying.

He's not really talking ground-breaking stuff there, admits he is completely unqualified, and his bit is in promoting and popularising the ideas.
As he said, he's hardly going to outline the next generation global political system, but his heart is undoubtedly in the right place and I don't understand the balking.

Oh give over!

He talked about the redistribution of wealth implying he was a 'tacit' supporter of socialist ideals yet forgot to mention that his own personal wealth was built on the back of non-socialist principles. In other words, he undermines his own credibility.

As for the accusations of incoherency, I wholeheartedly endorse them. He tends to throw out words which attempt to make himself look smart but ultimately it's just a load of waffle. There's very little substance behind the words, just ends up a stockpile of emotional blather.

And no, there will be no revolution in the UK. Maybe he started taking drugs again?

His ideas are simplistic, mediocre, pseudointellectual garbage that only proto-socialists and thirteen year old kids would find in any way appealing.

I am pie · 24-10-2013 03:07PM

In an ideal world rusty buckets....alas, the revolution isn't coming anytime soon.

hatrickpatrick · 24-10-2013 03:11PM

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Says the multi-millionaire.

Wealth and political power are not identical concepts, something a lo0t of people utterly fail to understand about people who are currently protest. It's not always about money.
I could be the richest man in the world and I'd still be pissed off at how our government is behaving. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand?

iDave · 24-10-2013 03:11PM

ruthloss wrote: »

I just watched the Vid. I could not say any of it was 'incoherent'.

Fair enough, personally I don't consider rambling about a supposed revolution and talk of vague new forms of government which he failed to define coherent.

conorhal · 24-10-2013 03:18PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

I don't know why people don't like Brand. Hes a smart and articulate individual who has over come much adversity in life to get where he is now.

Oh maybe I know, jealousy is an awful thing.

Folks that mistake loquacious for knowledgeable often end up with a cupboard full snake oil bottles.....

wretcheddomain · 24-10-2013 03:19PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I could be the richest man in the world and I'd still be pissed off at how our government is behaving. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand?

Hypothetically, if I had a wealth of €20 billion accrued through capitalism and then started preaching about the values of Socialism, how seriously would you take me?

In other words, while the concept of socialism cannot be attacked, we can certainly attack my hypocrisy in this regard.

In the same way, we can attack the hypocrisy of Brand, the only difference here is that Brand is waffling here and doesn't really have any points that deserve further contemplation.

BlurstMonkey · 24-10-2013 03:20PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Mr. Brand is a pseudo-intellectual, overpaid middle-class media luvvie with abandonment issues and I would love to rip his arm off and beat him to death with it.

It pains me to think how many women I know that call him a genius, the brunt of this impression coming from the fact that he's half way articulate, and after that I won't say where else.

Russell Brand preaching revolution on Paxman Last Night

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