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Child removed from Roma gypsies-This time in DUBLIN *Mod Warning Post #1*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    elfy4eva wrote: »
    Yea but with the couple already admitting
    that she's not theirs.. :P
    Where was that reported? are you still referring to the first case?
    according to the news about 20 minutes they claimed she was born to them in a Dublin maternity hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elfy4eva


    wil wrote: »
    Where was that reported? are you still referring to the first case?
    according to the news about 20 minutes they claimed she was born to them in a Dublin maternity hospital.

    Apologies, the RTE article switches between the two cases. I got confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    My sister has three kids, two with dark hair and one with red hair......she's expecting a visit from the child protection people soon!

    More likely a visit from a fat kid from southpark looking for the stray day walker..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    My sister has three kids, two with dark hair and one with red hair......she's expecting a visit from the child protection people soon!

    And she'll probably be able to find all three birth certs and maybe even passports in under five minutes. She'll also be able to tell officers the hospital they were born in and date/time (to the nearest minute) and brth weight (to the nearest ounce).

    To be fair, the Roma in the Greece and Dublin cases do seem to be coming clean and saying, "these are not our kids!". So the question is, how did they come to be in their care?

    If you were a young couple/mother struggling to cope, would you choose to leave your baby with people who were members of a discriminated against and (reportedly) poverty stricken, non-formally educated ethnic group?

    No.

    My guess is, these kids were either bought from (awful) parents or kidnapped.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Yeah, the article pulls from the greek case to drum up a bit of interest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    Maybe the wife was playing around. You can't just go investigating every family whose kids don't look like them. What if they found a stunningly handsome blonde couple with an ugly little minger in the pram?

    "We think you must have abducted that child!"

    Come to think of it I may have been abducted cos I'm the only good looking one in my family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭limitedIQ



    If you were a young couple/mother struggling to cope, would you choose to leave your baby with people who were members of a discriminated against and (reportedly) poverty stricken, non-formally educated ethnic group?

    No.

    My guess is, these kids were either bought from (awful) parents or kidnapped.

    Well they would probably be the only group to take her "no questions asked"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    It is understood she is now in the care of the Health Service Executive.

    Riiiiight, because experience has clearly shown that kids are so much better off at the hands of the HSE.

    The words "fat" and "fire" come irresistibly to mind...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet



    Come to think of it I may have been abducted cos I'm the only good looking one in my family.

    Son, your Mam and me need to have a word with you......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    limitedIQ wrote: »
    Well they would probably be the only group to take her "no questions asked"

    Mmmmm fair point


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Riiiiight, because experience has clearly shown that kids are so much better off at the hands of the HSE.

    The words "fat" and "fire" come irresistibly to mind...

    Instead of Romas, yeh, they would be infinitely better off in the care of the HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Instead of Romas, yeh, they would be infinitely better off in the care of the HSE.

    Given everything we know about the HSE, a suitable analogy would be swapping a Miley Cyrus song for a Willow Smith one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    To be fair, the Roma in the Greece and Dublin cases do seem to be coming clean and saying, "these are not our kids!". So the question is, how did they come to be in their care?
    .
    I dont think that is what is currently being reported, that is still referring to the first case, NOT the Dublin case. They claimed she was theirs and born here. Records dont confirm, yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    hansfrei wrote: »
    This news is giving Roma people a bad name

    They had a bad name long before this news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭oceanman


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Instead of Romas, yeh, they would be infinitely better off in the care of the HSE.
    I think your faith in the HSE is very misplaced...given everything that happened to children placed in their care in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Plenty of Romas live along the North Circular Road. I must be more vigilant when passing that way from now on just in case there are more cased like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    oceanman wrote: »
    I think your faith in the HSE is very misplaced...given everything that happened to children placed in their care in the past.

    A tiny percentage of children. When figures are given out on deaths of children in the care of the HSE they include, natural causes, road traffic accidents, long term illness etc. Very few if any who die or are harmed while in the care of the HSE die or are harmed because they are in the care of the HSE.

    Its far from a perfect organisation but to compare them to Romas is laughable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    hansfrei wrote: »
    This news is giving Roma people a bad name

    They already have a bad name and it's for a reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    seamus wrote: »
    Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.

    Yeap. This sh1t has been ignored for a long time and its about time to get real about the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    SpaceTime wrote: »

    Top story on Sky News now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    My sister has three kids, two with dark hair and one with red hair......she's expecting a visit from the child protection people soon!

    Tell her she's being paranoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    dm1979 wrote: »
    Fair play to who ever gave he tip to the guards

    You'd want to be some bad article to have info like that and NOT go to the guards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Got off a bus in Drumcondra on Sunday and walked past a bunch of them sitting on the concrete ground. Didn't even think to look at the kids. Will have be more vigilante about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    seamus wrote: »
    Just the start of it in reality. I suspect we're about to discover major child trafficking routes all across Europe.

    It really does have the possibility of something very big being uncovered, I imagine a lot of attention from authorities will be more focused on the Roma during this period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dylbert


    With all this media attention I fear for any other children that might have been abducted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,765 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Dog bites man story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Black hair-dye sales will soar.....it really will become harder to find any other traficked children as people will be more careful...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭VONSHIRACH


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    They already have a bad name and it's for a reason.

    Its giving Tallaght a bad name.:D


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