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Generation Porn

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  • #32
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Is it possible the Sindo became horrified by porn when some of it involves threesomes? :pac:


  • #33
    MonaPizza
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    Moomat wrote: »
    They're just jealous I reckon, I now I am anyway. Being a young teen in the mid 90's, I remember how dearly I waited for my weekly installment of minge on Eurotrash. Peddle material otherwise consisted of an ad for cosmetic surgery in the golden pages which featured some side boob! Gaming consisted of tetris..
    Teens these days dont know how good they have it!

    As far back as I can remember the English tabloids were available in Ireland. Could you not have walloped your c0ck over Samantha Fox and Maria Whittaker on page 3?
    In the 90's I lived in the US so porn mags were no problem. Puritan was my fave :D


  • #34
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    My name is URL wrote: »
    The idea that kids are growing up having their world view shaped by violent pornography etc is just hyperbolic.

    Disagree. I'm reasonably young and have a teenage youngfella. I have been using the internet daily since (brace yourself) 1996 and had access to porn on computers in the late 80's. I'm technically competent and I have to acknowledge that it's a losing battle trying to prevent young people from seeing porn.

    Kids his age have much easier access to horrible, horrible porn than I ever did (and I'm all in favour of a bit of porn). As soon as cheap smart phones became available, parents effectively lost the ability to police their childrens internet use. Internet use restricted at home? His mates phone has a data plan with no restrictions.

    "Set up a shared wifi there pal."

    "Send me on those pics by bluetooth there lad."

    "AHAHA. Check this out."

    and so on.

    He's 16 and despite the restrictions we place on him there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's seen (for example) stuff like two girls, one cup. *shudder*

    You think they're not using snapchat to send inappropriate pics to each other? Think again.

    I genuinely believe that it is the first generation to have access to nasty porn at a young age and that it is endemic. I also genuinely believe that even with the best technical abilities a parent is going to have serious trouble preventing it (and let's face it - most parents have very little technical ability).

    "The first generation steeped in porn"

    Yep.


  • #35
    maxwell smart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    I wonder if the 'journalist' Niamh Horan who 'writes' for the Sindo is the author of this, or is quoted in the piece?

    Incredibly talented she is :rolleyes:


  • #36
    Sky King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Interesting TED talk on the subject.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_RIm9ZMN1I


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  • #37
    FoxT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    Khannie, you are probably right. I've been internetting about as long as you have been and it is clear that the barriers of access to porn etc are now pretty much nonexistent, regardless of age.

    Railing about 'generation Porn' does not help though. A well informed article about, say, 'online porn - how should parents respond' or similar would be potentially more constructive & informative than the article the OP linked to. Indo will never publish anything like that though - not entertaining enough.

    -FoxT


  • #38
    allym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭allym


    Instead of vilifying porn, surely the focus should be on improving sex education in our schools and encouraging parents to talk to their kids about the fact that porn is as fake as any other movie they see.

    While there's no denying there's some weird stuff out there, I think the real damage happens when kids think that because they see something in porn, that it's normal and that's how sex is.


  • #39
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Moomat wrote: »
    They're just jealous I reckon, I now I am anyway. Being a young teen in the mid 90's, I remember how dearly I waited for my weekly installment of minge on Eurotrash. Peddle material otherwise consisted of an ad for cosmetic surgery in the golden pages which featured some side boob! Gaming consisted of tetris..
    Teens these days dont know how good they have it!


    Strange to think we were all having a sneaky goo at Eurotrash at that age. I remember flicking channels and lingering on Channel 4 with my finger over the button just in case my dad or stepmam came down the stairs...

    Some buzz that was.


  • #40
    marshbaboon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    Misread the thread title. Was expecting pictures of Worf with his balls hanging out. Very disappointed.


  • #41
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    For all the anti-porn talk, I haven't seen any actual evidence that suggests porn is dangerous or harmful.

    Particularly interesting is the fact that researches CANNOT FIND MEN WHO HAVEN'T SEEN PORN.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/6709646/All-men-watch-porn-scientists-find.html

    Sounds like fearmongering to me.


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  • #42
    horgan_p
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,658 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    <insert Maud Flanders picture here>
    Won't someone think of the children ?


  • #43
    claypigeon777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭claypigeon777


    If this isn't stopped then by the time young boys and girls are adult men and women they will be having sex with eachother!!!!!!:eek:


  • #44
    joseph brand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Moomat wrote: »
    They're just jealous I reckon, I now I am anyway. Being a young teen in the mid 90's, I remember how dearly I waited for my weekly installment of minge on Eurotrash. Peddle material otherwise consisted of an ad for cosmetic surgery in the golden pages which featured some side boob! Gaming consisted of tetris..
    Teens these days dont know how good they have it!

    I remember as a teen, sometimes I would open the kitchen door and find my dad watching Eurotrash. Ah, the sight of him scrambling to pick up the remote and come up with an excuse. Channel 4 used to show the odd French film which had good odds of showing a bewb or two.
    Dark days. Channel hopping for hours with not a bewb in site some nights.


  • #45
    seminarian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭seminarian


    Allowing Children, (esp Boys) of a young age to see hard porn does not help them develop as men. Women are not objects. Sex is part of a relationship, its not sport, is not a pastime, its not being one of the lads. We don't let 13 year old boys participate in Iron man because they are not physically developed. Child should not have access to porn, If parents can't police it, then the state has to step in to block access.


  • #46
    joseph brand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Strange to think we were all having a sneaky goo at Eurotrash at that age. I remember flicking channels and lingering on Channel 4 with my finger over the button just in case my dad or stepmam came down the stairs...

    Some buzz that was.

    A bunch of us had a sleepover in a friend's house when we were 15. One of the lads was 16 with a beard, so he was able to rent Basic Instinct. Well. I thought it warranted 10/ 10, and I think we all had that feeling that we wished we were alone, not surrounded by friends.

    It had a profound effect on me as I still get giddy over bewbs. Motor boat.


  • #47
    joseph brand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    seminarian wrote: »
    Allowing Children, (esp Boys) of a young age to see hard porn does not help them develop as men. Women are not objects. Sex is part of a relationship, its not sport, is not a pastime, its not being one of the lads. We don't let 13 year old boys participate in Iron man because they are not physically developed. Child should not have access to porn, If parents can't police it, then the state has to step in to block access.

    /looks at username, understands it's the celibate point of view.


  • #48
    seminarian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭seminarian


    joseph brand wrote: »
    /looks at username, understands it's the celibate point of view.

    I am a married father of 6.....


  • #49
    claypigeon777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭claypigeon777


    seminarian wrote: »
    I am a married father of 6.....

    But of course you are...:rolleyes:


  • #50
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    seminarian wrote: »
    Allowing Children, (esp Boys) of a young age to see hard porn does not help them develop as men. Women are not objects. Sex is part of a relationship, its not sport, is not a pastime, its not being one of the lads. We don't let 13 year old boys participate in Iron man because they are not physically developed. Child should not have access to porn, If parents can't police it, then the state has to step in to block access.


    ....what, ye can't go out on the pull?


  • #51
    seminarian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭seminarian


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....what, ye can't go out on the pull?

    No,... Pull who? Like the girl in Slane who had her life ruined? A lads night out is not about scoring a drunk girl.


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  • #52
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....what, ye can't go out on the pull?
    seminarian wrote: »
    No,... Pull who? Like the girl in Slane who had her life ruined? A lads night out is not about scoring a drunk girl.

    I'm sure a balance can be struck between these extremes, gentlemen.

    (as the actress said to the bishops.)


  • #53
    BlurstMonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    seminarian wrote: »
    No,... Pull who? Like the girl in Slane who had her life ruined? A lads night out is not about scoring a drunk girl.

    Bit a shnake with the auld analogy there aren't we? If a young lads dick works then he's good to go, fact of life. Dragging conversation into murky rape-like waters only makes it seem like you can't discuss something without dirty and manipulative tactics.


  • #54
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    seminarian wrote: »
    No,... Pull who? Like the girl in Slane who had her life ruined? A lads night out is not about scoring a drunk girl.


    ...where did I say "drunk girl"?

    As I asked - can you not go out on the pull?


  • #55
    Days 298
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Days 298


    seminarian wrote: »
    Allowing Children, (esp Boys) of a young age to see hard porn does not help them develop as men. Women are not objects. Sex is part of a relationship, its not sport, is not a pastime, its not being one of the lads. We don't let 13 year old boys participate in Iron man because they are not physically developed. Child should not have access to porn, If parents can't police it, then the state has to step in to block access.

    Good thing parents can if they want. The state run the country not 13 year olds phones.


  • #56
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    seminarian wrote: »
    I am a married father of 6.....

    When age did you get engaged...................... 5?


  • #57
    seminarian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭seminarian


    Days 298 wrote: »
    Good thing parents can if they want. The state run the country not 13 year olds phones.

    Well I disagree. I don't see the need for unlimited access to porn. It should be blocked and only accessed to those who opt in.

    I'm not naive to think that would solve the problem. We have ratings on movies, on printed porn, ... yet the internet is a free for all.


  • #58
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    Just like with video games, rock music, violent movies and cartoons, porn will be blamed for a lot of society's ills despite the fact that humans have been doing depraved shít to one another since before any of these things ever existed.

    It's also quite often skirted over that pretty much the entire world is steadily getting better in every way.

    Which makes these articles all the more ridiculous.

    Hang on... if we're watching loads of porn and the world is getting better in every way, does that mean that watching porn makes the world better in every way?


  • #59
    Days 298
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Days 298


    seminarian wrote: »
    Well I disagree. I don't see the need for unlimited access to porn. It should be blocked and only accessed to those who opt in.

    I'm not naive to think that would solve the problem. We have ratings on movies, on printed porn, ... yet the internet is a free for all.
    So you must opt in (i.e get permission) from the state to access legal media.

    What problem? Do you have a problem with other parents judgement or their parenting.


  • #60
    seminarian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭seminarian


    Days 298 wrote: »
    So you must opt in (i.e get permission) from the state to access legal media.

    What problem? Do you have a problem with other parents judgement or their parenting.

    I work in IT, I am 41, you would be surprised the number of parents who don't know how children get around them to get access to porn on the web. There was an incident of boys who found an unsecured wifi spot and downloaded violent rape porn to pass around.

    I know we have always had porn in society to some extent. But what we have now is a whole new level.

    I don't watch porn, I don't want my underage kids watching it. All parents I know share the same view. So as adults in society WE as a society should block as much of it as possible from the web.. IF we want access then we can sign up to have our IP unblock it.

    With Freedom come responsibility. People are not objects. As we have already seen the growing number of murders esp by men of women and girls, 95% of the time the murderers had viewed violent porn on the web.. (example April Jones murderer...) Sex addiction is a habit.. its something that becomes part of the person. We need to teach our children to use their sexuality with responsibility. We need to block hard pornography from the internet in Ireland.


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  • #61
    Fukuyama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    seminarian wrote: »
    Well I disagree. I don't see the need for unlimited access to porn. It should be blocked and only accessed to those who opt in.

    I'm not naive to think that would solve the problem. We have ratings on movies, on printed porn, ... yet the internet is a free for all.

    I don't think you understand the Internetz.

    Trying to 'block' things is like nailing jelly to a wall. :rolleyes:

    Just look at the pirate websites which are now blocked by High Court orders in most EU countries at this stage. Yet it's a piece of pi55 to access them, completely untraceable (unless you're being specifically monitored) and as popular as ever.

    And even if by some technological breakthrough the Internet was censored tomorrow, there'd be a growing army of people tearing down the blocks from day 2. It wouldn't last a week.

    Instead of burying the problem, why not give boys and girls sex education from the age of 8 or so. And somewhere along the lines (13/14) introduce them to the danger of porn addiction in a scientific way.

    They'll still watch the porn, but may be quick to realize if they're heading down a dark path.


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