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Generation Porn

  • 19-10-2013 02:06PM
    #1
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    The Sunday Independent are running an article called "Generation Porn"

    Firstly I think they're about 10 years late running with this which is probably the most ridiculous aspect. Porn videos have been on mobile phones for years now and the internet was common in homes a decade ago.

    They ask the question
    what happens when the links between sex and intimacy are severed? And how long before we begin to feel the effects of this emotional timebomb?
    Also in the ad they say how long before "it blows up in our faces".
    They talk about "violent and sadistic video games" too and seem to be linking that with porn somehow seeing as it's the subject of the article.

    Are they saying we're going to have another Ted Bundy on our hands?
    It just seems like more sensationalist bull****, and they should really be running an article on bad parenting because it's what it comes down to.
    Games are rated the same way as films, it's a parents job to know what games their kids are playing and monitor what they do on the internet.

    The bit that really irritates me is
    video games and the internet have given a new generation unprecedented access to the most extreme pornography.

    Now I've played GTA 5 (which is rated 18+) and seen a virtual boob or two, but what video games feature "the most extreme pornography"? Because

    1) I'm really not aware of many games that have any sexual content.
    and
    2) I have a voucher for gamestop I need to use. :P

    But seriously why do video games constantly get made to look evil by the media when there are so many positives to playing games such as,
    • reduction of stress and depression
    • improved decision making skills
    • improved vision (believe it or not)
    • pain relief
    to name a few.

    Basically it annoys the hell out of me with this type of sensationalist journalism. If a 14 year old is watching porn and playing violent games the book has to stop with the parents. It's not the fault of porn or adult themed video games.
    There is a weird anti video game agenda with a lot of media outlets that must exist through ignorance.
    Why is the blame always pushed away from parents?


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Comments

  • #2
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭weisses


    I think the Author was in the wrong parking place at the right/wrong time before writing this article


  • #3
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    because people never want to blame themselves?


  • #4
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Just like with video games, rock music, violent movies and cartoons, porn will be blamed for a lot of society's ills despite the fact that humans have been doing depraved shít to one another since before any of these things ever existed.


  • #5
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    The SIndo regularly has an "exclusive" about teens watching porn. Nothing to see here folks.
    That paper is caricaturing itself at this stage.


  • #6
    DonkeyStyle \o/
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    But seriously why do video games constantly get made to look evil by the media when there are so many positives
    Sells more papers, and they can throw stones at it without much backlash.


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  • #7
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Emily Hourican asks Mothers what can be done to protect children from the worst of the explicit material on the internet

    Rosary beads at the ready...


  • #8
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    25 years ago they were blaming NWA and Public Enemy


  • #9
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »
    Sells more papers, and they can throw stones at it without much backlash.

    The industry now is bigger than Films and Music combined.
    Surely they worry about advertising seeing as news papers will continue with struggle with more people getting their news from the....internet.
    Ah now it all makes sense. Newspapers hate anything online.


  • #10
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Rosary beads at the ready...
    In fairness, I don't know is there anything holy joe about that. Some hardcore porn is horrific - and I wouldn't blame any parent not wanting their adolescent kids to see it.


  • #11
    Moomat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Moomat


    They're just jealous I reckon, I now I am anyway. Being a young teen in the mid 90's, I remember how dearly I waited for my weekly installment of minge on Eurotrash. Peddle material otherwise consisted of an ad for cosmetic surgery in the golden pages which featured some side boob! Gaming consisted of tetris..
    Teens these days dont know how good they have it!


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  • #12
    tricky D
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Standard sensationalist b0ll0x from that kind of paper. If today's violent video games and rampant pron really did have an effect on their hundreds of millions of users, there would be rape, murder and pillage everywhere. Guess what, 404 effect in reality not found.


  • #13
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    25 years ago they were blaming NWA and Public Enemy

    And 30 years before that it was rock and roll which sounds just daft now.


  • #14
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    I saw a monkey having a sneaky tug in the zoo the other week while two of the other monkeys were fighting each other. Must have picked that behaviour up on Redtube.


  • #15
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Porn is supposed to be without artistic merit so I'm not even sure how they could lob video games into the category. Someone in the Sindo needs to get a dictionary.


  • #16
    Zen65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    The "Generation Porn" thing is a bit of sensationalism.

    However, when the Japanese eventually learn to create realistic life-like androids capable of having sexual intercourse with men and women (not the same android, of course), then I fear our species may die out over the course of 30 years.

    On the plus side, they could manufacture special androids for Paedophile Island, where all the paedophiles would not only be locked away, but they would actually volunteer to go, thus making society a safer place!

    Yeah, let's see some newspaper articles about that!

    Z


  • #17
    DonkeyStyle \o/
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Surely they worry about advertising seeing as news papers will continue with struggle with more people getting their news from the....internet.
    Yeah I don't know how interested gaming companies are in advertising to the old-people demographic that still buys newspapers. I presume they've done the math and decided they can safely throw it under the bus. These kids with their damn rock and roll music, etc.


  • #18
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,103 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    10 years ago I was still on dial-up.


  • #19
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Moomat wrote: »
    They're just jealous I reckon, I now I am anyway. Being a young teen in the mid 90's, I remember how dearly I waited for my weekly installment of minge on Eurotrash. Peddle material otherwise consisted of an ad for cosmetic surgery in the golden pages which featured some side boob! Gaming consisted of tetris..
    Teens these days dont know how good they have it!

    You're forgetting the lingerie section in Family Album.


  • #20
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    In fairness, I don't know is there anything holy joe about that. Some hardcore porn is horrific - and I wouldn't blame any parent not wanting their adolescent kids to see it.

    You just know the type of responses they're setting out to solicit by how the sentence I quoted is worded.
    Emily Hourican asks Mothers what can be done to protect children

    The idea that kids are growing up having their world view shaped by violent pornography etc is just hyperbolic.

    "The first generation steeped in porn"

    "emotional timebomb about to explode"

    Sensationalist nonsense.

    There's a debate to be had on the subject, but that whole Helen Lovejoy routine isn't a good starting point for it.


  • #21
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    Grayson wrote: »
    You're forgetting the lingerie section in Family Album.


    It's Ireland's biggest lingerie section, I believe


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  • #22
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    They pick on games and porn (why are these two linked?) because they are the mediums getting in the way of that comfortable top spot the old media used to own. So they blacken the name in the hopes of toppling these huge industries, which they wont.


  • #23
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    TeddyTedson wrote: »

    But seriously why do video games constantly get made to look evil by the media when there are so many positives to playing games such as,
    • reduction of stress and depression
    • improved decision making skills
    • improved vision (believe it or not)
    • pain relief

    Why do burgers always get a bad press when there are so many positives to eating burgers:

    * Protein in the burger itself
    * Vitamin C in the tomato
    * B Vitamins & Folic Acid in Onion
    * Vitamin A and K in lettuce
    * Fibre in the bread

    You get the point. Eating too many burgers will still cause more harm than good so selectively highlighting the positives about anything only leads to a highly skewed and biased perspective, hence making your point entirely redundant.


  • #24
    humbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    I think debating articles like this is missing the point. It's deliberately manipulative gutter journalism and should be derided as such.

    I'm not saying that some of the points and concerns aren't valid but articles like that do not set the stage for sensible debate and the papers who produce them should be ignored.


  • #25
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The Sunday Independent are running an article called "Generation Porn"

    Firstly I think they're about 10 years late running with this which is probably the most ridiculous aspect. Porn videos have been on mobile phones for years now and the internet was common in homes a decade ago.

    .........

    True, but putting together an article that goes 'Waaah - teenagers & sex' still gets attention.


  • #26
    average hero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭average hero


    I wonder if it's like the old saying of 'everything in moderation'. For example a little flutter on the horses once in a while, a few drinks every so often or a curry cheese chips every couple of weeks does no-one any real harm if they can handle it, but develop a gambling, alcohol or eating addiction and you will very quickly see the damage done.

    I suppose porn is the same. A cheeky look at 'whatever you're having yourself' website every so often may not be the worst thing in the world. It may even help to reduce stress etc. but if it becomes an addiction and you are using it to tug the middle off yourself multiple times a day to extreme hardcore porn, it MAY warp your expectations and desires. This is when it may be a problem.


  • #27
    The One Who Knocks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    "Ticking time bomb".... sensationalism at its best!


  • #28
    Moomat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Moomat


    average hero wrote: »
    I suppose porn is the same. A cheeky look at 'whatever you're having yourself' website every so often may not be the worst thing in the world. It may even help to reduce stress etc. but if it becomes an addiction and you are using it to tug the middle off yourself multiple times a day to extreme hardcore porn, it MAY warp your expectations and desires. This is when it may be a problem.

    Not to mention hairy palms, going blind etc...


  • #29
    FoxT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    Indo article referred to by OP offers nothing new, is a rehash of stuff that has been written about for ages, and is written by journalists. Unlike say, sociologists,or psychologists, journalists are not particularly well qualified to offer anything new or insightful here.


    -FoxT


  • #30
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Caligula was mad for the ould video games............


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  • #31
    Pushtrak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    mikom wrote: »
    Caligula was mad for the ould video games............
    Grand Theft Chariot was all the craze.


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