How can they charge for water?

Hitchens · 18-10-2013 09:02PM #1

...in the wettest country on earth? I'm after driving through rivers of water today, the whole shaggin' place is soaking wet.

Not the slightest danger of running out of water.

People buying water in shops, can never figure that out either. :mad:

Karl Stein · 18-10-2013 09:04PM

Maybe you should bottle the water you've been driving through.

hansfrei · 18-10-2013 09:05PM

Im paying for mine on the drip.

donvito99 · 18-10-2013 09:05PM

Because of your face, OP.

hfallada · 18-10-2013 09:07PM

It has to be processed, which is extremely expensive to do. There is like 7 steps eg. flirtation, chlorination etc. Then it has to be piped and monitored constantly to check its quality. It costs the tax payer nearly €1 billion a year to do. I think the water charges will make people think twice about watering the grass during the summer( we dont live in Phoenix, Arizona, it will rain eventually) or washing their cars every week.

But I hope their is no BS allowances( paid for by other users) just because someone is an OAP, when most middle class families are struggling, but get no help from the government.

Tin Foil Hat · 18-10-2013 09:09PM

Hitchens wrote: »

...in the wettest country on earth? I'm after driving through rivers of water today, the whole shaggin' place is soaking wet.

Not the slightest danger of running out of water.

People buying water in shops, can never figure that out either. :mad:

We're surrounded by electrons. We're even made from the shagin' things. Yet the thieving cnuts manage to charge for electricity - the bastards.

The Big Smoke · 18-10-2013 09:09PM

hfallada wrote: »

It has to be processed, which is extremely expensive to do. There is like 7 steps eg. flirtation...

Well hello there, you must be tired running through all those taps all day

o1s1n · 18-10-2013 09:09PM

hfallada wrote: »

It has to be processed, which is extremely expensive to do. There is like 7 steps eg. flirtation, chlorination etc. .

Water: 'you get me so wet...'

'Flirtation phase complete!'

Karl Stein · 18-10-2013 09:10PM

A great way of saving water is to bathe in piss.

Mariasofia · 18-10-2013 09:19PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Water: 'you get me so wet...'

'Flirtation phase complete!'

Water you doin' when the sun goes down

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keith16 · 18-10-2013 09:21PM

Yeah, and what's with all this "roads" nonsense. Sure the ground is mostly flat, we can just drive on that.

theblaqueguy · 18-10-2013 09:25PM

Hey op I've a water saving tip for you it should help you saving money on those nasty water charges it involves the flushing of your toilet "if its yellow let it mellow if its brown flush it down"

RandomName2 · 18-10-2013 09:46PM

hfallada wrote: »

I think the water charges will make people think twice about watering the grass during the summer( we dont live in Phoenix, Arizona, it will rain eventually) or washing their cars every week.

The costs for public water provision, while relatively steep, are also predominantly fixed. By that I mean it costs the state almost the same to provide a house with 200 litres of water as it does to provide it with 20. I won't harp on about how most water is actually lost through mains leaks (which would be correct) as at least the council is attempting to fix these pipes... which of course is another cost in itself.

So water charges... okay
Metred water... fek off

meoklmrk91 · 18-10-2013 09:49PM

Of all the crap this government has done to us this is one of the only things I agree with. Our water system is archaic at best. We need to upgrade it, I have no problem paying for water as long as I stop getting limey crap through my taps.

DuckSlice · 18-10-2013 09:57PM

Why can't you understand people buying bottled water??

Hitchens · 18-10-2013 10:02PM

it's like the innuit buying ice ffs

DuckSlice · 18-10-2013 10:08PM

Hitchens wrote: »

it's like the innuit buying ice ffs

There is quite a difference in taste between tap and bottled water.

goose2005 · 18-10-2013 10:34PM

Not only that, but the bastards make us pay for food. I mean, it literally grows on trees.

wexie · 18-10-2013 10:56PM

etxp wrote: »

There is quite a difference in taste between tap and bottled water.

not an awful lot of difference between bottled water and the water from my well though, no charge on that either

While I wouldn't necessarily have too much of a problem with water charges (partly because of the well) I'd have a problem with paying for a service which (at the moment) clearly is very poor, as already mentioned there are numerous problems with water leaking out of the system and, more importantly, contaminants coming INTO the system, (cryptosporidium anyone?)

If the councils could provide a decent drinking water service, with water not loaded with chemicals, a decent water pressure and guaranteed deliveries (no excuses for water shortages in this country really) I think a lot fewer people would have a problem with water charges.

April O Neill · 18-10-2013 11:34PM

Hitchens wrote: »

...in the wettest country on earth? I'm after driving through rivers of water today, the whole shaggin' place is soaking wet.

Not the slightest danger of running out of water.

People buying water in shops, can never figure that out either. :mad:

Pfft, I cycled in todays's weather.

Toughen up!

dxhound2005 · 18-10-2013 11:38PM

What if you don't use water, will there still be a charge?

wexie · 18-10-2013 11:40PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What if you don't use water, will there still be a charge?

If it's a metered charge I'd imagine there will probably be a standing charge for the privilege of having the meter.

I guess rainwater harvesting is going to become a lot more popular.

dxhound2005 · 18-10-2013 11:42PM

wexie wrote: »

If it's a metered charge I'd imagine there will probably be a standing charge for the privilege of having the meter.

I guess rainwater harvesting is going to become a lot more popular.

But if you don't use water can you refuse to be connected to a meter?

18-10-2013 11:43PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

The costs for public water provision, while relatively steep, are also predominantly fixed. By that I mean it costs the state almost the same to provide a house with 200 litres of water as it does to provide it with 20. I won't harp on about how most water is actually lost through mains leaks (which would be correct) as at least the council is attempting to fix these pipes... which of course is another cost in itself.

So water charges... okay
Metred water... fek off

Metering will reduce usage massively and make those costly repair leaks cheaper. Britain has been spending like crazy to reduce leakages but I think that once they get to under 30% that's as good as it's going to get, metering would instantly reduce demand at least as much as fixing leaks could increase supply.

Unfortunately the general opposition seems to be against charges in general while the parts of the plans that should be protested aren't targeted properly and it will only be at the last minute those issues are properly raised and then it'll be too late.

wexie · 18-10-2013 11:45PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

But if you don't use water can you refuse to be connected to a meter?

Gee I don't know, I'd imagine you might be able to refuse a connection to the water network (provided it's not already there) but I don't think you'd be able to refuse a meter if you have a connection.

Alternatively you could move out to the country and get your own well, can't see them being metered for a while.

Its All Wright · 18-10-2013 11:45PM

I laughed when bottled water first hit the shelves..but now it is all i drink

I welcome the water tax if it ends up improving our dreadful water supply

Femme_Fatale · 18-10-2013 11:46PM

Genuine question: what's wrong with our water supply?

I'm not critical of the water charge because it is necessary by now, but just wondering what is so bad about our water/supply.

henryporter · 18-10-2013 11:47PM

And they're concerned a punt graduates electing senators. Should be more concerned with certain rednecks voting at all in this cuntry!

18-10-2013 11:49PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Genuine question: what's wrong with our water supply?

I'm not critical of the water charge because it is necessary by now, but just wondering what is so bad about our water/supply.

Where do you live? I can think of few places that haven't had issues recently.

wexie wrote: »

If it's a metered charge I'd imagine there will probably be a standing charge for the privilege of having the meter.

There'll be an annual charge to cover the cost of the meter initially. The price of the meters is being massively overstated though.

wexie · 18-10-2013 11:50PM

Its All Wright wrote: »

I laughed when bottled water first hit the shelves..but now it is all i drink

I welcome the water tax if it ends up improving our dreadful water supply

It's a big if, but the water infrastructure is dreadful indeed. I grew up in Holland and when I first moved to Dublin many many moons ago I couldn't understand why there could possibly be a need for tanks in the attic. I don't believe they're being used in many other countries in europe either. (anybody know?).

Not being able to drink the tapwater for months on end? In an affluent western european country? Simply laughable.

For being such an abundant resource it's clearly been horrendously mismanaged in Ireland for many years.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 18-10-2013 11:51PM

Hitchens wrote: »

...in the wettest country on earth? I'm after driving through rivers of water today, the whole shaggin' place is soaking wet.

Not the slightest danger of running out of water.

People buying water in shops, can never figure that out either. :mad:

dumbest question of the year, did you drive through water treatment plants, do you think the water magics is way to your tap?:rolleyes:

How can they charge for water?

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