LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Scortho · 17-10-2013 06:42PM

Totally going off topic...its a psv tax post?

I have a neighbour who has an jaguar xk8 taxed as a public service vehicle. Tax for the year is 98 euro.
Anyone know how this works?
Its not big enough to be a limo and it certainly aint doing the rounds as a taxi or hackney.

Voodoomelon · 17-10-2013 07:02PM

I think €2200+ is a bit rich, with that mileage it's essentially worth nothing. You could pick one up for not much more with half the miles.

Bigus · 17-10-2013 07:12PM

jharr100 wrote: »

Isn't the tax invalid unless its being driven as a psv?
Might as well have no tax.

Except for APNR purposes, traffic wardens and sleepy non traffic corps guards , so a lot more useful than no tax.

CharlieCroker · 17-10-2013 07:16PM

Scortho wrote: »

Totally going off topic...its a psv tax post?

I have a neighbour who has an jaguar xk8 taxed as a public service vehicle. Tax for the year is 98 euro.
Anyone know how this works?
Its not big enough to be a limo and it certainly aint doing the rounds as a taxi or hackney.

Not possible. Potential psvs have to be examined by the NCT centre to prove suitability and there's a pre-approved list on the taxi regulator so a 2 door coupe certainly isn't gonna pass.
Cars like the Alfa 156 and Seat Leon can't be used due to the "hidden" rear door handles.
So if its true, he's got a false disc in the window.

Red Kev · 17-10-2013 07:19PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I think €2200+ is a bit rich, with that mileage it's essentially worth nothing. You could pick one up for not much more with half the miles.

Mileage means nothing, it's the condition and how well it's been minded that's important.

The mileage on a car like that would in no way turn me off looking at it. That said the fact that that very one has no NCT means I wouldn't go after that particular one.

Give me a well minded, well cared for 300,000 miles + car anyday over a 100,000 miles yoke that only has it's hood lifted at the NCT centre once a year.

Voodoomelon · 17-10-2013 07:28PM

You miss my point, I agree mileage doesn't usually matter as long as it's cared for, but there's nothing exceptional about those V6s/transmissions that i'm aware. Why drop over €2000 on one with 280,000 miles which could be about to pop the clogs, when you can hold out for one with half the miles for a grand more?

EDIT: Or less: http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s-class-00-1owner-nct-mint/5256451

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 17-10-2013 07:29PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

You miss my point, I agree mileage doesn't usually matter as long as it's cared for, but there's nothing exceptional about those V6s that i'm aware. Why drop over €2000 on one with 280,000 miles which could be about to pop the clogs, when you can hold out for one with half the miles for a grand more?

EDIT: Or less: http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s-class-00-1owner-nct-mint/5256451

Novelty value?

:D

kevpants · 17-10-2013 10:17PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls430-2-owner/4777994

I'm circling these big Lexii. This one looks interesting, tax paid apparently.

Question though

Is that sitting very low at the back? Does the air suspension in these tend to go?

daRobot · 17-10-2013 10:50PM

kevpants wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls430-2-owner/4777994

I'm circling these big Lexii. This one looks interesting, tax paid apparently.

Question though

Is that sitting very low at the back? Does the air suspension in these tend to go?

That has been for sale for an age now. He mentioned in an ad ages ago that there was a problem with the air suspension, so either he's fixed it, or is now omitting it purposely.

It's the only weak point on the cars. It's not insane money (600 per corner for parts only) but considering all the cars on the market have 100k ish on the clock, try and find one that's had them replaced (as I fortunately did)

bear1 · 18-10-2013 08:40AM

I always wondered on those S-classes what was that pulse thing on both front seats?
I test drove an S320 petrol about a month and it was a lovely thing to go, power on the off.
I cant seem to find a version identical to it though (albeit a diesel)

It had the pulse thing, tv/sat nav and rear heated seats, xenon etc etc, almost handed the cash over until I realised that pure cost of running it would cripple me.

Sobanek · 18-10-2013 08:49AM

bear1 wrote: »

I always wondered on those S-classes what was that pulse thing on both front seats?
I test drove an S320 petrol about a month and it was a lovely thing to go, power on the off.
I cant seem to find a version identical to it though (albeit a diesel)
It had the pulse thing, tv/sat nav and rear heated seats, xenon etc etc, almost handed the cash over until I realised that pure cost of running it would cripple me.

Sounds like really good spec for an S320.

bear1 · 18-10-2013 08:57AM

Unbelievable spec, if only it was a diesel. it was as sweet as a nut to drive.

Scortho · 18-10-2013 09:06AM

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Not possible. Potential psvs have to be examined by the NCT centre to prove suitability and there's a pre-approved list on the taxi regulator so a 2 door coupe certainly isn't gonna pass.
Cars like the Alfa 156 and Seat Leon can't be used due to the "hidden" rear door handles.
So if its true, he's got a false disc in the window.

Hmm where does one get these disks!:pac:
I had a look this morning and everything looks legit on it.
There's also two certs, one on the front and one on the rear saying small public service vehicle jaguar xk 8.
I'd post pics of it but it isn't my car.

Also there's a few 156 taxis going around town. There rough though and I'd never get in one.
I'm not doubting you by the way, just curious as to how an xk8 can be taxed as one. If he had a few limos as well would he be able to tax it as a psv?

blindside88 · 18-10-2013 11:15AM

bear1 wrote: »

I always wondered on those S-classes what was that pulse thing on both front seats?
I test drove an S320 petrol about a month and it was a lovely thing to go, power on the off.
I cant seem to find a version identical to it though (albeit a diesel)
It had the pulse thing, tv/sat nav and rear heated seats, xenon etc etc, almost handed the cash over until I realised that pure cost of running it would cripple me.

What are the mpg figures like on these, thinking of taking a job closer to home in the new year, just wondering would an s320 converted to LPG be a runner for it

bear1 · 18-10-2013 11:33AM

blindside88 wrote: »

What are the mpg figures like on these, thinking of taking a job closer to home in the new year, just wondering would an s320 converted to LPG be a runner for it

From the read-out display the average was showing roughly 28mpg combined.
A quick check on parkers shows average of 24mpg and thats with an 88 litre tank.
The 320CDI shows an average of 35mpg which is quite good on such a car

bear1 · 18-10-2013 12:17PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-cl-500-amg-nct-07-2014/4912976

yom yom yom yom yom

Scortho · 18-10-2013 12:21PM

bear1 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-cl-500-amg-nct-07-2014/4912976

yom yom yom yom yom

I thought you were looking for a diesel....:pac:

Thats some car. I dread to think what some developer paid for it 9 years ago. Well over 100 k im guessing:eek:

Padraig Mor · 18-10-2013 12:24PM

Scortho wrote: »

Thats some car. I dread to think what some developer paid for it 9 years ago. Well over 100 k im guessing:eek:

List price on a CL500 in 2004 was over €156k.

cadaliac · 18-10-2013 12:30PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

List price on a CL500 in 2004 was over €156k.

Sweet baby jesus.... over €16,000 per year in depriciation .
Plus I doubt he will get €9.5k for it now either.

bear1 · 18-10-2013 12:40PM

Scortho wrote: »

I thought you were looking for a diesel....:pac:

Thats some car. I dread to think what some developer paid for it 9 years ago. Well over 100 k im guessing:eek:

Yes but I can still dream

Cantona's Collars · 18-10-2013 12:41PM

http://www.adverts.ie/car/mercedes-benz/e-class/mercedes-e-class-220cdi/3975806

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Automatic,diesel and NCT. €3300

bear1 · 18-10-2013 01:04PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-s-320-cdi/5828815

I forgot to mention that the 320 petrol I saw was the 320L, longer wheelbase

Spook_ie · 18-10-2013 02:09PM

Scortho wrote: »

Hmm where does one get these disks!:pac:
I had a look this morning and everything looks legit on it.
There's also two certs, one on the front and one on the rear saying small public service vehicle jaguar xk 8.
I'd post pics of it but it isn't my car.

Also there's a few 156 taxis going around town. There rough though and I'd never get in one.
I'm not doubting you by the way, just curious as to how an xk8 can be taxed as one. If he had a few limos as well would he be able to tax it as a psv?

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Not possible. Potential psvs have to be examined by the NCT centre to prove suitability and there's a pre-approved list on the taxi regulator so a 2 door coupe certainly isn't gonna pass.
Cars like the Alfa 156 and Seat Leon can't be used due to the "hidden" rear door handles.
So if its true, he's got a false disc in the window.

You should download this app

http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/taxi-driver-check/

bang in the registration number and it will tell you if it's legit or not

daRobot · 18-10-2013 03:31PM

cadaliac wrote: »

Sweet baby jesus.... over €16,000 per year in depriciation .
Plus I doubt he will get €9.5k for it now either.

Nowhere near that. I've seen 03+ facelift models at sub 4.5k. They tend to move quickly at that price though.

mullingar · 18-10-2013 05:32PM

Great app.

I also use carsireland to the get the tax/nct dates

That 04 lexus is registered as a taxi until next May. Tax expires 05/14, nct expires 04/14

pajor · 18-10-2013 06:02PM

mullingar wrote: »

Great app.

I also use carsireland to the get the tax/nct dates

That 04 lexus is registered as a taxi until next May. Tax expires 05/14, nct expires 04/14

Can the tax and NCT be checked on carsireland for free..?

EDIT: Neverrr mind. Just figured it out.

kevpants · 18-10-2013 07:43PM

I drove this today. Whether I buy this one or another I think I'm in love.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls-petrol/5767000

lomb · 18-10-2013 07:52PM

cadaliac wrote: »

Sweet baby jesus.... over €16,000 per year in depriciation .
Plus I doubt he will get €9.5k for it now either.

16k a year is nothing for that machine. If buying new one would expect around 20% of 150k or 30k a year. Add to that fuel, tax, insurance as well as finance and would be around 40k a year for the first 3 years. Or put it another way 75k before tax. It requires you to be a successful businessman to say the least. No one who buys that machine new would drive it after 3 years as the game is up at that point as its old hat.
Theres a post over on Pistonheads of someone buying a Cl55Amg and Mercedes estimating 9000 stg to sort it out!
They are very expensive machines to run and thats apart from mpg and tax issues.

Big Nasty · 18-10-2013 08:22PM

lomb wrote: »

16k a year is nothing for that machine. If buying new one would expect around 20% of 150k or 30k a year. Add to that fuel, tax, insurance as well as finance and would be around 40k a year for the first 3 years. Or put it another way 75k before tax. It requires you to be a successful businessman to say the least. No one who buys that machine new would drive it after 3 years as the game is up at that point as its old hat.
Theres a post over on Pistonheads of someone buying a Cl55Amg and Mercedes estimating 9000 stg to sort it out!
They are very expensive machines to run and thats apart from mpg and tax issues.

If buying a luxobarge you're better off hovering around the 2002 era IMO. Anything more and you're looking at mega gold for repairs. Pre 03 stuff is a lot more manageable. You could prob stretch to 04/05 with Lexii.

mullingar · 18-10-2013 09:02PM

I remember reading an article saying the Ls430 of that era was proven to be the most reliable car in the world

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