Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

The biggest Irish scandals/chancers ever?

  • 10-10-2013 05:59PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    I was reading Charlie Haughey's wiki page there and, fúck me, he takes some beating as the king of Irish chancers.

    Haughey's personal wealth and extravagant lifestyle – he owned racehorses,[34] a large motor sailing yacht Celtic Mist, a private island, and a Gandon-designed mansion – had long been a point of curious speculation; he had refused throughout his career to answer any questions about how he financed this lifestyle on a government salary.[35] Despite his professed desire to fade from public attention, these questions followed him into retirement, eventually exploding into a series of political, financial and personal scandals tarnished his image and reputation.

    In 1997, a government-appointed tribunal led by Judge Brian McCracken first revealed that Haughey had received substantial monetary gifts from businessmen, and that he had held secret offshore bank accounts in the Ansbacher Bank in the Cayman Islands. Haughey faced criminal charges for obstructing the work of the McCracken tribunal.[36][37] His trial on these charges was postponed indefinitely after the judge in the case found that he would not be able to get a fair trial following prejudicial comments by the then PD leader and Tánaiste Mary Harney.[38]




    In 1997 the public were shocked by allegations that Haughey had embezzled money that was a subvention to the Fianna Fáil Party; money that was from central Government's taxpayer's funds for the operation of a political party and that he had spent large sums of these funds on Charvet shirts and expensive dinners in a top Dublin restaurant while preaching belt-tightening and implementing budget cuts as a national policy.[39]

    The subsequent Moriarty Tribunal delved further into Haughey's financial dealings. In his main report[6] on Charles Haughey released on 19 December 2006, Mr. Justice Moriarty made the following findings:


    Haughey was paid more than IR£8 million between 1979 and 1986 from various benefactors and businessmen, including £1.3 million from the Dunnes Stores supermarket tycoon Ben Dunne alone.[35] The tribunal described these payments as "unethical".[40]



    In May 1989 one of Haughey's lifelong friends Brian Lenihan, a former government minister, underwent a liver transplant which was partly paid for through fundraising by Haughey. The Moriarty tribunal found that, of the £270,000 collected in donations for Brian Lenihan, no more than £70,000 ended up being spent on Lenihan's medical care. The tribunal identified one specific donation of £20,000 for Lenihan that was surreptitiously appropriated by Haughey,[41] who took steps to conceal this transaction.[42][43]



    The tribunal found evidence of favours performed in return for money – Saudi businessman Mahmoud Fustok paid Haughey £50,000 to support applications for Irish citizenship.[40]

    In other evidence of favours performed, the tribunal reported that Haughey arranged meetings between Ben Dunne and civil servant Seamus Pairceir of the Revenue Commissioners. These discussions resulted in an outstanding capital gains tax bill for Dunne being reduced by £22.8 million. Moriarty found that this was "not coincidental", and that it was a substantial benefit conferred on Dunne by Haughey's actions.[44]


    Allied Irish Banks settled a million-pound overdraft with Haughey soon after he became Taoiseach in 1979; the tribunal found that the lenience shown by the bank in this case amounted to an indirect payment by the bank to Haughey.[40]

    The tribunal rejected Haughey's claims of ignorance of his own financial affairs[39] and Haughey was accused by the tribunal of "devaluing democracy".[40]

    Haughey eventually agreed a settlement with the revenue and paid a total of €6.5 million in back taxes and penalties to the Revenue Commissioners in relation to these donations.[45] In August 2003 Haughey was forced to sell his large estate, Abbeville, in Kinsealy in north County Dublin for €45 million to settle legal fees he had incurred during the tribunals.[46] He continued to live at Abbeville and own the island of Inishvickillane off the coast of County Kerry until his death.



    Can he be topped?

    Who or what are the biggest Irish scandals/chancers ever?


«13

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    That rotten ole theivin' Bas*tard took 1% out of my pay packet back in the day when I could ill afford it, and without my consent, to plug the hole in the Finances of the PMPA Insurance company.
    He was the only person I ever heard of born in three counties...Dublin, Donegal and Kerry! In later life he claimed to be born in a fourth, but I can't remember which one, but I think it was Derry. All things to all men was the bould Chas.
    To add insult to injury he was allowed walk away with millions.

    But, he gave us 'free travel,' say the oldies, and paid for it out of his own pocket...like fu*k he did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    A cat getting shot on prime-time television by a young lad wielding a loaded semi-automatic gun


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭sabat


    The theft continues-his wife is still alive and in receipt of a hefty pension from the state; she and the kids also got a huge payout when Abbeville was sold to developers and which is now being underwritten by the taxpayer via NAMA. For sheer brass neck though, I don't think anyone could top Bertie's "had a bit of luck on d'oul hosses" line at the tribunal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Haughey coined the term shortened to 'GUBU' to describe a particularly weird scandal involving a murderous madman and the Attorney General:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUBU

    Though I think Sharon 'Lying Eyes' Collins and her hitman wove a story that would be deemed too ridiculous for a South American telenovela.

    (google that and boards threads come up on the first page. :))


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    Just to add that this paragon of virtue thought that Bertie Ahern was even more devious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    Charley was among the first to figure out that the Irish electorate were suckers. Throw the common - man a bone and you could get away with anything. Charlie's bone was the free travel.

    Bertie was no different but more adventerous. The use of the anorak, the pints of Bass, daa horses, follower of Man Utd, The Dubs GAA teams, poor woman-less aul divil living all alone in a rambling aul house without a dacent woman 'to do' for him...ahhhh... De Peace Process etc, etc, all common-mannish stuff, but boys oh boys did it work. There were shouts of 'Good man Bertie, Ya Boy-ya' even down here in middle Ireland, many miles fro his base in Dublin.
    Us suckers fell for it in huge numbers

    Bert learned from the master, that's for sure, before he passed the shameful mantle onto Cowen, another 'common'-man, another pint drinker, another GAA follower, a man with an ego bigger than Clara Bog, but without the cleverness, the wiyliness or indeed the brains of his predecessors, but he still managed to be identified as being among us 'common' men. and drew his many votes because of it.

    Now others are following that same (but by now well worn) path, pandering to the 'common' - man; "tax the rich... we'll tell Angela Merkel and the Trioka to f. off, regain our fiscal independence," etc etc.

    But are we still suckers for that bull****?
    I hope we've outgrown it, but only time will tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 767 ✭✭✭SimonQuinlank


    Most things Bertie ever touched.

    Liam Lawlor making millions on dodgy land deals for Liffey Valley,then going round to his (many poor) constituents and offering them a bag of coal in exchange for their votes.

    Michael Lowry's shady dealings with Denis O'Brien over the phone operator license

    Then health minister Michael Noonan threathening a dying woman who was infected with Hep C from a contaminated blood transfusion with legal action on her deathbed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Mickey "the fixer "Lowry, John Brutons enforcer who made sure that for the right price a highly lucrative mobile licence went to the wrong company, while at the same time he was knee deep in tax evasion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    Mickey "the fixer "Lowry, John Brutons enforcer who made sure that for the right price a highly lucrative mobile licence went to the wrong company, while at the same time he was knee deep in tax evasion.

    And tops the Poll in every election ever since.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    The boys who set up the Irish sweepstakes:

    Irish Sweepstake scandal remains a lesson to us all - Independent.ie

    Fascinating story, basically was a legal money racket that grabbed worldwide attention in the 30's especially, hell even was referenced in Breaking Bad! The company didn't have to publish its expenses so only the owners knew where half the money was going. Because lotteries were illegal in the US and UK payments had to be made to 1'000's of people to sell them.

    The draw worked by picking 30/40 names who then got a horse in the big race, be it the National, Derby etc, people often got offered big money to sell the ticket by bookies or investors. The whole thing was a Government sponsored racket, and it is doubtful how much it actually benefitted the Health system here.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Sharon Shannon!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Bishop Eamonn Casey was the biggest scandal ever..little did we know. He looks like a saint compared to all the stuff that has come out over the past 20 years.

    Nowadays, it's the public's failure to demand accountability for wrongs & injustices in the past and present.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What about Ray Burk, although it is hard beat Haughty for check!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    kupus wrote: »
    Charlie, bertie, p flynn, lawlor, lowry, albert, ray burke, they are not irish. they are idiots. simple.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ireland

    It has its own wiki page!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Tony Cascarino.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    John O'Donoghue take a bow
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O'Donoghue_expenses_controversy
    As Ceann Comhairle, O'Donoghue employed seven more office staff than the previous Ceann Comhairle who managed with three staff.[11][12]
    O'Donoghue and Brendan Howlin shared a "working dinner" in June 2007.[13] The cost of the €293 meal was paid for by O'Donoghue.[13] He also dined regularly in Michelin-starred restaurants, on many occasions with his wife.[1]
    Four trips to Britain in 2006 and 2007 led to €21,000 expenses claims for hiring cars.[14]
    He claimed expenses on a £1 sterling donation which he personally gave to UNICEF when in Scotland.[15] The donation was part of the hotel bill. The total bill for his stay there from 21 January until 24 January 2009 came to €801.70.[15]
    He regularly attended horse racing sessions and even brought his wife, secretary and other officials to the Melbourne Cup in Australia in 2003.[8] He returned in 2005, telling a magazine the following year that: "There's nothing quite like Melbourne Cup day in Australia".[8]
    He claimed expenses of €600 on a limousine to take him to horse racing at Aintree.[9]
    He claimed for another limousine to carry him between terminals at Heathrow Airport in London.[12] The total claimed for this limousine was €472.[14]
    He claimed nearly €900 per night for a 2006 stay in the Radisson Hotel in Liverpool.[14]
    He resided in one hotel in Paris where rooms cost €633 per night.[1][12]
    Many of the expenses were claimed for tips he gave — one of these amounted to almost €200.[1]
    He purchased many gifts such as €882 worth of items from the House of Ireland shop and 2006 Midleton whiskey which totalled €135.[1]
    €4,956 was claimed on the hire of limousines during a trip to several cities in the United States.[1]
    €11,869 in expenses was claimed on advertisements displayed in local newspapers in his native Kerry.[1]
    On 6 October 2009, it was revealed that O'Donoghue had spent more than €20,000 at nine different race meetings internationally over the four-year period of 2003–2007.[16]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭the immortals


    Boyzone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭BabyGorilla


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    John O'Donoghue take a bow


    "He claimed expenses on a £1 sterling donation which he personally gave to UNICEF when in Scotland.[15] The donation was part of the hotel bill."

    lololol

    OP is the Brian Lenihan mentioned in your post the same Brian Lenihan who signed the (bite the) blanket bank coverage for us.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Lima Golf


    That mcgeever fella who faked his own kidnapping to try and get out of paying debts was a pure chancer :)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fake-kidnap-victim-mcgeever-linked-to-5m-us-fraud-case-29437495.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Cathyht


    De Barron of Ballsbridge.
    He's a right ol chancer.

    And all those guys who are basically failed politicians and end up on Bank Director****s.....

    What about all these Boards. There are so many thousands of these Directors 'serving' on Boards of Directors, from charitable organisations to horse breeding, the afore mentioned Banks (especially Very Very Bold Banks). We don't need all these asshole directors sucking the country dry. Many of them appear on quite a few Boards. Haughey's Daughter is on at least one, I'm sure the sons are.

    Dick Spring is good too, He is a director of Allied Irish Bank and receives annual pension payments of €121,108.

    Our Taoiseach, who remains mute and invisible during any televised debate is up there with the best of them. I'm sure his most Chancery things are still not fully disclosed. Probably many Chancer Judges and legal eagles will make a fortune in the future working out what the current FGers did. Despite his non appearance at important debate, he 'earns' over 200k plus another 100k 'expenses'. He is online for a nice number in Brussels.

    The whole lot of these Politician bloodsuckers make me want to vomit. I would love to meet somebody who cares about politics, doing good, running a country properly, who is NOT in it to pick the bones of our nation, and us till there's nothing left. Their arrogance, hypocrisy and greed are so blatant. Surely there is someone who is NOT a chancer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭BabyGorilla


    ToughOne wrote: »
    Irish people guzzle cock

    Can we have just 1 thread without mentioning jedward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭BabyGorilla


    ToughOne wrote: »
    I was talking about yer da tbf

    Ill still be here in a few minutes. :D

    In addition Mr ToughOne I put it to you that it is in fact YOU and YOUR father who engage in the cock guzzling acts previously mentioned. Simultaneously and in tandem. If you deny this then you should reply, otherwise your silence shall be taken as an indication of guilt as to your partaking in the act of the gobbling of phallus's. (along with your father).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    lahalane wrote: »
    Tony Cascarino.

    ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭TOMP


    The DOZENS of "pillars of the community" (solictors) who have been charged or convicted or involved in all kinds of dodgy dealings in Ireland in the last 10 years.

    There's a book in it for some aspiring journalist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    ???

    Tony Cascarino managed to play for the Irish national football team with not a hint of Irishness in him. In fairness though, he scored 19 goals for us so we don't care. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Chancer of the highest order, probably worse then yer man Hilter



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Cathyht wrote: »
    Surely there is someone who is NOT a chancer?

    I think Tony Gregory was a good guy. Ive never heard a bad word said about him


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    Pee Flynn whingeing on the Late Late show about how stressful it was running 3 or 4 different homes up and down the country, what with all the bills and housekeepers and whatnot.


Advertisement
Advertisement