When I say that I won't allow any more illegal posts, I mean it.

Jimoslimos · 10-10-2013 12:41AM

I think boards would be better served by banning new regs (or as is more common, re-regs) from posting in AH until a post count of 50. Plus a further 50 posts before they can start a thread. That would curtail most of the so-called illegal posts referred to here.

bizmark · 10-10-2013 12:43AM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

I think boards would be better served by banning new regs (or as is more common, re-regs) from posting in AH until a post count of 50. Plus a further 50 posts before they can start a thread. That would curtail most of the so-called illegal posts referred to here.

What they did with the soccer forum

Kiwi in IE · 10-10-2013 12:46AM

cigar_chomper wrote: »

the liberal left is soft on all aspects of islam , demands for a blasphemy law stem from islam , why else are we getting such a law now when Catholicism is on the wean , we had none thirty years ago when catholicsm was central to the country

Absolute rubbish. It was written into the Irish Constitution in 1937. Somehow I doubt they had Islam in mind.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

10-10-2013 12:47AM

Oh well, glad I was introduced to the mumsnet forum now.

wil · 10-10-2013 12:53AM

so in conclusion, if you don't believe, don't go to their concerts.

Did I get the gist of it right?

mark renton · 10-10-2013 12:55AM

bizmark wrote: »

What they did with the soccer forum

yup, and that worked great :rolleyes:

petes · 10-10-2013 12:57AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Oh well, glad I was introduced to the mumsnet forum now.

Can't believe I survived until now without DH, DD, SS. Still don't know what half of them are.

It's now my forum of choice.

oppenheimer1 · 10-10-2013 12:59AM

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

In fairness i can see where Dav is coming from he doesnt want any unnecessary hassle/legal action. In answer to your question sher send an email about defamation and find out :pac:

I can see where hes coming from too. However he is erring on the side of extreme caution which runs the real risk of harming discussion and most importantly alienating users. Perhaps boards ought to shut AH and the religion forums so? If there can't be a frank discussion about religion in current affairs (often the root of many conflicts and stories) and religion boards what point do they serve??

No matter the rights or wrongs of a discussion here on boards, the site admins always rush to shut/close/delete it, rather than deal with the issue head on once theres a whiff of the lawyers about it.

Manassas61 · 10-10-2013 01:00AM

Well this is rather daft. Either you agree with freedom of speech and personal free thought and expression or not. The law sounds like a big load of scaremongering garbage and I fail to see how it would get near a court.

I am shocked that the Republic has that written into law.

Amirani · 10-10-2013 01:02AM

cigar_chomper wrote: »

the liberal left is soft on all aspects of islam , demands for a blasphemy law stem from islam , why else are we getting such a law now when Catholicism is on the wean , we had none thirty years ago when catholicsm was central to the country

Yep, because liberals are all for laws that restrict freedom of speech...

There's been blasphemy laws in Ireland since far before you were born.

oppenheimer1 · 10-10-2013 01:03AM

bizmark wrote: »

What they did with the soccer forum

The soccer forum and the way it is set up is a complete joke to be honest.

Set up in the form of a glorified kiddies playground.:rolleyes:

10-10-2013 01:04AM

petes wrote: »

Can't believe I survived until now without DH, DD, SS. Still don't know what half of them are.

It's now my forum of choice.

But they have penis beakers!

I'm more interested in seeing what other sites have to offer tbh. The OP does appear to be very one sided as to whom you cannot blaspheme against.

10-10-2013 01:08AM

Why is it OK to call Jimmy Saville a paedophile on here then? As with Muhammed, it was a different time etc. He was never even convicted of anything. If being dead makes someone a fair target then why not Muhammed?

Insect Overlord · 10-10-2013 01:09AM

cigar_chomper wrote: »

proof ( as if any was needed ) that this site has become a parody of itself

one big fat circle jerk of political correctness

tosspot15 wrote: »

I've contributed a bit to boards over the past years (not on this account), and I've enjoyed many of the various forums on here. While a lot of the time I disagree with the heavy handed moderation, it wasn't bad enough to get upset about.
But this just takes it to new lows. If this is what boards.ie is stooping to then I am so glad I never actually went ahead and subscribed, like I actually considered doing so several times before....after all, boards.ie is a company.

Perhaps boards need to take a good look at their "business" model because it certainly wont keep me around. Not that anybody cares if I'm here or not.

Red Nissan wrote: »

Maybe boards should be wound up. Shut down. I must disengage ad blocker to see who is advertising.

Seriously, who wants this crap!

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

Boards becoming another site to cower down to these threats from "peaceful" organisations.

SameoleSameole wrote: »

Boards.ie cares about money and money alone. They sanctimoniously pretend that they are looking out for groups and individuals whenever they declare a topic or subject off limits, but the truth is they just don't want to upset the apple cart.

And yet ye all keep coming back. Sad, isn't it?

robindch · 10-10-2013 01:10AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

But are you prepared to offer €1,000 for every court visit ? Do you know how much a trip to the high court costs?

To clarify -- I'm offering to contribute up to €1,000 to any fund, controlled by boards.ie, used to defend boards.ie against any one or more charges of "blasphemy" that reach court, or to help pay any one or more fines levied in court against boards.ie under the 2009 blasphemy legislation.

I'm broadly aware of the costs of going to the High Court, which is why I'm requesting other posters to step in and match what I've offered here. Or indeed, for anybody else to offer anything else at all.

SweepTheLeg · 10-10-2013 01:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why is it OK to call Jimmy Saville a paedophile on here then? As with Muhammed, it was a different time etc. He was never even convicted of anything. If being dead makes someone a fair target then why not Muhammed?

I didn't know Saville has a following of millions who would kill in his name, and who have killed over his misrepresentation in the media and such.

10-10-2013 01:11AM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

I didn't know Saville has a following of millions who would kill in his name, and who have killed over his misrepresentation in the media and such.

You've never heard of Jim'll Fix It?

oppenheimer1 · 10-10-2013 01:11AM

Insect Overlord wrote: »

And yet ye all keep coming back. Sad, isn't it?

The way the site is being run, I doubt it will be for long. The site has been haemorrhaging good contributors for about two years now.

deadeye187 · 10-10-2013 01:11AM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The soccer forum and the way it is set up is a complete joke to be honest.

Set up in the form of a glorified kiddies playground.:rolleyes:

The soccer forums are just a joke, Kids on power trips hand out bans!

titan18 · 10-10-2013 01:12AM

I presume it would have been looked into, but would changing the location of Boards.ie to a different jurisdiction solve anything? It probably gets confusing but if ye were registered in a different country without Blasphemy laws, would ye still be liable to Irish laws, presuming the poster is Irish?

Calhoun · 10-10-2013 01:13AM

Poorly thought out knee jerk response tbh, I appreciate your between a rock and a hard place but you got to set out guidelines as they say what's good for the goose is good for the gander, if this is the rules for Islam will the same enforcement be used for other religions ?

It's like that episode of South Park with the sea manities once one topic comes taboo everything comes taboo, do we now all have to start become intolerant of others who disagree with our viewpoint? If I were you I would think carefully before pulling that methaphorical ball out of the tank.

The Backwards Man · 10-10-2013 01:13AM

SameoleSameole wrote: »

Boards.ie cares about money and money alone. They sanctimoniously pretend that they are looking out for groups and individuals whenever they declare a topic or subject off limits, but the truth is they just don't want to upset the apple cart. You would never see this kind of grandstanding for the Catholic Church or any other group society doesn't really give twopence for.

Example:

Female gets recorded in Dublin takeaway slagging off other customers. She repeatedly attempts to slap their phone out of their hands. Video goes viral. Threads are started regarding it on Boards.ie: but are shortly closed and users are told that any mentioning of the incident is prohibited.

Female gets recorded on Dublin public transport because her child is crying non-stop. Gets berated by driver and other passengers, who call her an unfit mother. Video goes viral. Threads are started regarding it on Boards.ie: they remain open.

One of these female's was rich. Guess which one.

One of them was underage and intoxicated too. Guess which one?

Why do people wish to have an inalienable right to abuse others? What do they get out of it?

I just don't get it.

Manassas61 · 10-10-2013 01:14AM

The forum in practical terms is unworkable if you go along by being intimidated by a threat or this blasphemous law. You can't have discussions on religion or politics without potentially offending some one.

People will look for offence if they want to be offended. It doesn't mean they are right and in a way by shutting down the discussion, it just spreads fear and destroys discussion.

I know it's just a forum but in principle, it's the sort of thing people have went to war for because it is trying to suppress freedom of speech and free thought and close down discussion because some people might get "offended".

The politics forum will go tomorrow if this policy is followed through. And the forum is not near as enjoyable without a good debate or argument. I love debating with people who disagree with me. I don't get offended because they think my political views are wrong.

Defend freedom of speech and don't be intimidated.

robindch · 10-10-2013 01:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If being dead makes someone a fair target then why not Muhammed?

Because Mohammad set up a religion. And under the blasphemy legislation, somebody can be convicted of an offence if they say something which any itinerant group of religious people can interpret as outrageous.

In short, it gives religious people an incentive to become upset and outraged, as if an incentive were needed.

Insect Overlord · 10-10-2013 01:15AM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The way the site is being run, I doubt it will be for long. The site has been haemorrhaging good contributors for about two years now.

Ah now, we both know the vast majority of those Closed Accounts are back under new names.

oppenheimer1 · 10-10-2013 01:18AM

titan18 wrote: »

I presume it would have been looked into, but would changing the location of Boards.ie to a different jurisdiction solve anything? It probably gets confusing but if ye were registered in a different country without Blasphemy laws, would ye still be liable to Irish laws, presuming the poster is Irish?

There is almost a zero chance of the DPP bringing a prosecution against boards for blasphemy. And even if they did there would be an almost zero chance of it succeeding. All this is about is playing safe to the extreme. Media organisations can take out insurances against legal action.

Its times like this that the value of traditional media should be appreciated. In fairness to them they occasionally do take a chance on a story.

10-10-2013 01:18AM

Scholars say that going by the norms of the time, Mary would have been between 10 and 12 when she gave birth to Jesus. I wonder would a thread on Christianity be forced to be shut down for mentioning that?

The blasphemy law is a joke, and I don't respect anyone who would threaten to use it.

10-10-2013 01:20AM

robindch wrote: »

To clarify -- I'm offering to contribute up to €1,000 to any fund, controlled by boards.ie, used to defend boards.ie against any one or more charges of "blasphemy" that reach court, or to help pay any one or more fines levied in court against boards.ie under the 2009 blasphemy legislation.

I'm broadly aware of the costs of going to the High Court, which is why I'm requesting other posters to step in and match what I've offered here. Or indeed, for anybody else to offer anything else at all.

Some of us can hardly pay our own bills, let alone those of Boards.ie or Distilled Media or whoever now runs this place. You can request all you like, but Id say the fund will be as empty as that of the girl from the Peru Smuggling case.

Turtwig · 10-10-2013 01:20AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Scholars say that going by the norms of the time, Mary would have been between 10 and 12 when she gave birth to Jesus. I wonder would a thread on Christianity be forced to be shut down for mentioning that?

The blasphemy law is a joke, and I don't respect anyone who would threaten to use it.

Depends on how you intend to discuss it.
We sometimes have Catholics and Prods bashing the crap out each other. If the Mohammed remarks counts so do those.

titan18 · 10-10-2013 01:20AM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

There is almost a zero chance of the DPP bringing a prosecution against boards for blasphemy. And even if they did there would be an almost zero chance of it succeeding. All this is about is playing safe to the extreme. Media organisations can take out insurances against legal action.

Its times like this that the value of traditional media should be appreciated. In fairness to them they occasionally do take a chance on a story.

Aye, I doubt any legal challenge would be followed through in relation to the law, but if the law itself is making boards.ie afraid of any discussion incase someone is stupid and rich enough to bring them to court, surely anything should be done to allow discussion to be as free as possible.

When I say that I won't allow any more illegal posts, I mean it.

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