evolution of irish accents?

EdenHazard · 06-10-2013 12:13AM

You do hear people with what sound mad american accents(usually artsy hippy types) but they are never these D4 types, whose accent is not like anything in America, its a South County Dublin inspired by American TV shows accent but it does not sound like an accent from California lol. I'm a 'SOCODUB' resident and I can tell you to a foreigner, our accent is very Irish.

ONeill2013 · 06-10-2013 12:14AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Well there you go then.

yes but my ancestors went to philadelphia and new york, that's what i meant when i said they don't have any sort of ulster accent

stoneill · 06-10-2013 12:17AM

I hate that effect when someone goes to the states and comes back with an accent.
Never happens if they visit Pakistan.

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 12:18AM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

yes but my ancestors went to philadelphia and new york, that's what i meant when i said they don't have any sort of ulster accent

You don't hear many Irish people talking with a New York accent though do you. The older east coast cities like that have the longest history in the US, plenty of time to evolve their own local twang.

What I'm saying though is if you hear an Irish person talking and think, hey that sounds like an American, you're probably hearing echoes of Irish accents that were absorbed into parts of American accents and bounced back here.

Augmerson · 06-10-2013 12:51AM

If you live in Dublin I feel bad for you son, I'm not anywhere near the kip and don't wanna be.

ONeill2013 · 06-10-2013 12:54AM

Augmerson wrote: »

If you live in Dublin I feel bad for you son, I'm not anywhere near the kip and don't wanna be.

no, haven't even been in it since the mid 2000's

Eeden · 06-10-2013 01:15AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Some people go to the states for a few months and come back with ridiculous accents.

I lived in the southern states in the US for years, and never lost my accent.

Some people keep their accents, some lose them. It's not a moral issue. I was born in England, brought up in the US, now live in Ireland. Wherever I go, I pick up the accent. I don't do it to be pretentious. It just happens.

There is a theory that people with a musical/language ability are more likely to pick up the accent of the place where they live.

astonaidan · 06-10-2013 01:19AM

Scarinae wrote: »

I'm from Dublin and other Irish people sometimes think I'm English or Canadian. I don't watch much television though. I think that some Dublin accents are just very mild

Ahh people are terrible at guessing accents, outside of Ireland Ive had people thinking I was German, every Scandinavian country, Dutch, Canadian.
If you dont speak with a stereotypical accent they refuse to believe you are Irish. Like Im from the west and have a normal accent for my town.

EdenHazard · 06-10-2013 01:21AM

Something trivial that annoys me is when people say they 'don't have an accent'

stefan idiot jones · 06-10-2013 01:24AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Some people go to the states for a few months and come back with ridiculous accents.

I lived in the southern states in the US for years, and never lost my accent.

I live in Australia. I have lived in Ireland and Scotland, however I still sound like a Welsh twat.

astonaidan · 06-10-2013 01:24AM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Something trivial that annoys me is when people say they 'don't have an accent'

Watch Michael Mcintyre view on it good stuff

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 01:27AM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I live in Australia. I have lived in Ireland and Scotland, however I still sound like a Welsh twat.

Anyone that talks like Windsor Davies is awesome.

Eeden · 06-10-2013 01:28AM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Something trivial that annoys me is when people say they 'don't have an accent'

I think that few people think they have an accent because they live in a community who all speak the same way. An accent is the way "other people" speak.

My own parents are from different parts of the country and therefore (to others) sound different, but I never could hear it, because to me they just sounded "Irish". A friend of mine who's mother is German could never hear her accent either.

stefan idiot jones · 06-10-2013 01:30AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Anyone that talks like Windsor Davies is awesome.

I'm more like Uncle Bryn than Windsor.

dd972 · 06-10-2013 01:39AM

You'd have thought that with Irish parentage and being here for nearly 20 years that Pat Dolan would have at least by now inflected that f**k awful Estuary English accent of his with some trace of Irishness.:eek:

06-10-2013 01:45AM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I'm more like Uncle Bryn than Windsor.

God, I could listen to the phone book being read by a Welshman...love the sound.

dd972 · 06-10-2013 01:46AM

Jake1 wrote: »

God, I could listen to the phone book being read by a Welshman...love the sound.

maybe not in Welsh

06-10-2013 01:47AM

dd972 wrote: »

maybe not in Welsh

haha, true dat

06-10-2013 01:49AM

the Welsh make things sound Seeeerious, like, mind, listen up eh boyo.

yet passionate,

06-10-2013 02:01AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Where do you think the Americans got their accents in the first place? There are traces of Irish accents all over the US.

Fair point. Even more so in Canada, particularly in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, Most Newfies I know sound a lot like west coast of Ireland.

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Why do ye think every President, the most powerful men on earth, take the time to visit this little rock of a place.

One reason only. To try to secure a bigger portion of the Plastic Paddy, Irish American vote.

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 02:05AM

323 wrote: »

One reason only. To try to secure a bigger portion of the Plastic Paddy, Irish American vote.

Well yeah nobody's claiming he's taking tips on leadership from Inda. But the size of that vote is just another indication of how prevalent the Irish accent and its descendants were/are.

InTheTrees · 06-10-2013 02:16AM

323 wrote: »

Fair point. Even more so in Canada, particularly in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, Most Newfies I know sound a lot like west coast of Ireland.

YUp. We get Canadian TV here in seattle and its odd the first time you hear them.

Totally Irish accent. its a western irish like Galway. Is it Newfoundland?

ONeill2013 · 06-10-2013 04:07AM

uch wrote: »

Don't be rude, a child with a stupid accent needs to be Battered

God help the children of cavan, monaghan and louth then

WilyCoyote · 06-10-2013 04:11AM

You can't bate the sound of a pig farmer's daughter from Mount Bellow. Fierce sexy!

MadsL · 06-10-2013 04:50AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Some people go to the states for a few months and come back with ridiculous accents.

I lived in the southern states in the US for years, and never lost my accent.

Well. How nice for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFL2GT1-2g

Galwayguy35 · 06-10-2013 05:04AM

It's not just in parts of Dublin that you hear these fake accents, some parts of Galway city are the same.

When the fook did Irish people start talking like this?

Are they ashamed of their natural accent?

I notice the same thing when people I grew up with would be home for Christmas, you'd swear they were just home from California instead of just moving 200 miles up the road to Dublin.

dd972 · 06-10-2013 11:53AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

It's not just in parts of Dublin that you hear these fake accents, some parts of Galway city are the same.

When the fook did Irish people start talking like this?

Are they ashamed of their natural accent?

I notice the same thing when people I grew up with would be home for Christmas, you'd swear they were just home from California instead of just moving 200 miles up the road to Dublin.

they might have lied and went to Dublin,California

irishfeen · 06-10-2013 12:16PM

Taking about accents ... I was over in London a few months back for a weekend and I swear almost no one could understand me... needed a translator (Irish buddy living their) to order rounds for me

haha

Witchie · 06-10-2013 12:25PM

I get if am American or Canadian quite regularly and very few people can tell I spent most of my life living in Monaghan. I lived in Canada when I was a baby and coz I learned to speak there I probably do have a slight Canadian accent or speech pattern. Couple that with my mum's posh Tyrone accent* and having lived in Dublin for a few years and my accent is all over the shop.

* there is no such thing as a posh Tyrone person but my mum's accent has a slight Tyrone twang but she could've read the news for the bbc in the 60's she sounds so genteel.

D1stant · 06-10-2013 12:27PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Taking about accents ... I was over in London a few months back for a weekend and I swear almost no one could understand me... needed a translator (Irish buddy living their) to order rounds for me haha

I'm from Cork and hitched through North Cork a few years ago. 25 miles from home but I might as well have been in Outer Mongolia - couldn't understand a word. I love that about Ireland, but in 20 years time Duhallow = San Diego :-(

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