evolution of irish accents?

ONeill2013 · 05-10-2013 11:18PM #1

At the gymnasium today there was a young woman (with a very fine backside i may add) who said she was from Dublin yet she had an accent that was very close to an american accent, just a small hint of irish in there.
Is this caused by the amount of american television that is shown nowadays or is it just happening naturally when someone attempts to talk 'proper' without the slang and what not?

wazky · 05-10-2013 11:19PM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

American accent = talk 'proper'

This statement is false.

For Forks Sake · 05-10-2013 11:24PM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

At the gymnasium today there was a young woman (with a very fine backside i may add) who said she was from Dublin yet she had an accent that was very close to an american accent, just a small hint of irish in there.

This person is what is commonly referred to as an idiot.

Muise... · 05-10-2013 11:25PM

she was talking out of her arse OP.

steddyeddy · 05-10-2013 11:25PM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

At the gymnasium today there was a young woman (with a very fine backside i may add) who said she was from Dublin yet she had an accent that was very close to an american accent, just a small hint of irish in there.
Is this caused by the amount of american television that is shown nowadays or is it just happening naturally when someone attempts to talk 'proper' without the slang and what not?

D2/D4 by any chance?

Mariasofia · 05-10-2013 11:26PM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

At the gymnasium today there was a young woman (with a very fine backside i may add) who said she was from Dublin yet she had an accent that was very close to an american accent, just a small hint of irish in there.
Is this caused by the amount of american television that is shown nowadays or is it just happening naturally when someone attempts to talk 'proper' without the slang and what not?

It was probably just nerves you know being chatted up at the "gymnasium"!

ONeill2013 · 05-10-2013 11:27PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

D2/D4 by any chance?

I don't know the difference in dublin areas but it can't just be that because in well off areas of British cities they still don't speak with american style accents

hfallada · 05-10-2013 11:28PM

I have noticed a lot of young irish girls with American accents. But tbh I prefer an american accent to some young one shouting "ah jaysus howiya Jaaaade" with an inner city accent

razorgil · 05-10-2013 11:28PM

Muise... wrote: »

she was talking out of her arse OP.

out of her "very fine backside" even

Joe10000 · 05-10-2013 11:28PM

Many people, girls mostly, now have this accent in south county Dublin or SoCoDu as I like to call it.

razorgil · 05-10-2013 11:32PM

the amount of american shows the young women are watchin these days, is it any wonder they sound american??

uch · 05-10-2013 11:34PM

Nah, she's a mongo

anncoates · 05-10-2013 11:37PM

She ignored your persistent attempts to strike up conversation at the cross trainer.

Get over it.

Busted Flat. · 05-10-2013 11:43PM

It is Muriam O'Callaghan sort of thing.

we'llallhavetea · 05-10-2013 11:43PM

my eldest daughter is always poppin out with americanisms, she's constantly exposed to American tv!

Cody Pomeray · 05-10-2013 11:46PM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

I don't know the difference in dublin areas but it can't just be that because in well off areas of British cities they still don't speak with american style accents

That's because the British maintain a rigid class system.

Ireland was a nation of peasants. We have no indigenous class system to speak of.

After independence, the British class system maintained its influence in the media and higher professions; listen to very radio shows, or RTE presenters from the 1970s, for example. they all had BBC accents. As we grew more exposed to American media and recreational trips to the US (J1 visas, and the "exclusivity" surrounding American brand names that followed), this filled a vacuum.

The British never had that vacuum.

Scarinae · 05-10-2013 11:48PM

I'm from Dublin and other Irish people sometimes think I'm English or Canadian. I don't watch much television though. I think that some Dublin accents are just very mild

uch · 05-10-2013 11:49PM

aya startin wha wrote: »

my eldest daughter is always poppin out with americanisms, she's constantly exposed to American tv!

I'd Bate Her!

Sam Kade · 05-10-2013 11:52PM

Scarinae wrote: »

I'm from Dublin and other Irish people sometimes think I'm English or Canadian. I don't watch much television though. I think that some Dublin accents like mine are just very very fake

Fixed

Sam Kade · 05-10-2013 11:53PM

uch wrote: »

I'd Bate Her!

With your wand :eek:

uch · 05-10-2013 11:57PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

With your wand :eek:

Don't be rude, a child with a stupid accent needs to be Battered

kowloon · 05-10-2013 11:58PM

I love hearing old newsreel and the likes. Give it enough time and we'll sound alien to subsequent generations.

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 12:02AM

Where do you think the Americans got their accents in the first place? There are traces of Irish accents all over the US.

Ohhh and the thread takes an unexpected twist.

Why do ye think every President, the most powerful men on earth, take the time to visit this little rock of a place.

Busted Flat. · 06-10-2013 12:03AM

uch wrote: »

Don't be rude, a child with a stupid accent needs to be Battered

What evverr. OMG??,

06-10-2013 12:06AM

Some people go to the states for a few months and come back with ridiculous accents.

I lived in the southern states in the US for years, and never lost my accent.

ONeill2013 · 06-10-2013 12:07AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Where do you think the Americans got their accents in the first place? There are traces of Irish accents all over the US.

Ohhh and the thread takes an unexpected twist.

Why do ye think every President, the most powerful men on earth, take the time to visit this little rock of a place.

yes there is truth in what you say but how come my distant american and australian cousins don't have a hint of a culchie ulster accent?

razorgil · 06-10-2013 12:08AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Some people go to the states for a few months and come back with ridiculous accents.

I lived in the southern states in the US for years, and never lost my accent.

same as that. born and bred in cork, moved to kilkenny, now working in tipp, still have cork accent, y'know like!!

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 12:10AM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

yes there is truth in what you say but how come my distant american and australian cousins don't have a hint of a culchie ulster accent?

I always felt there was a bit of Ulster Scots in the deep south accents. It would make a fascinating thesis for someone I reckon, tracing the migration of Irish people and their accents. But yeah, there are echoes of Eireann in many American accents, not neccessarily the other way round.

Scarinae · 06-10-2013 12:12AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Fixed

Not really. I live in London and sound very Irish to people here, who can't understand why anyone would think I sound English. It's only Irish people with stronger accents than me who think that.

ONeill2013 · 06-10-2013 12:13AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I always felt there was a bit of Ulster Scots in the deep south accents. It would make a fascinating thesis for someone I reckon, tracing the migration of Irish people and their accents. But yeah, there are echoes of Eireann in many American accents, not neccessarily the other way round.

yes there is as the scotch-irish moved to there

Doc Ruby · 06-10-2013 12:13AM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

yes there is as the scotch-irish moved to there

Well there you go then.

evolution of irish accents?

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