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Irish Times Promulgating Left-wing Extremism

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  • #32
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    well I'm off to the newsagents immediately as I'm only dying to hear about Roisín Ingle's latest adventures in Irishtimesmagazineland. Maybe she ate some more chocolate? Maybe her boyfriend didn't like her new top? #soexcited


  • #33
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    The Aussie wrote: »
    The Extreme Left is just as Extreme as the Right side of views.....

    Both are a pain in the hole but the difference is that the extreme right are the most hateful, spiteful bastards around.


  • #34
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Both are a pain in the hole but the difference is that the extreme right are the most hateful, spiteful bastards around.

    So you think the Left are all Rainbows and Cuddles do you....


    From the Left it would appear that way I suppose.


  • #35
    returnNull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    Proselytising would be a better word.

    man,its why too early for big words :)

    Promulgating Proselytising?Im going back to bed...


  • #36
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Lol at anti-semitism being left-wing! :pac:

    OP, I know it's fashionable for your ilk to like the Jews now, but I'ma... assume you hated them before 9/11, as all right-wing loons did. :)

    Planned parenthood - oh noez! Yet, again, I'm going to assume you're the type who takes issues with people having a lot of children "for benefits".

    You're hilarious!


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  • #37
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    The Aussie wrote: »
    So you think the Left are all Rainbows and Cuddles do you....


    From the Left it would appear that way I suppose.
    Why just say "left" when you mean extreme left? The extreme left is full of assholes, but the moderate left, yeh, is pretty great.


  • #38
    hansfrei
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    More to this politics stuff than right and left.
    There's also right and wrong.


  • #39
    valknut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭valknut


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Why just say "left" when you mean extreme left? The extreme left is full of assholes, but the moderate left, yeh, is pretty great.

    The moderate right are ok as well, the extreme on both sides are clowns.

    Not every right wing person wants to exterminate others and goose step around the place!

    Sometimes telling it as it is is enough to get labelled right wing these days.


  • #40
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Why just say "left" when you mean extreme left? The extreme left is full of assholes, but the moderate left, yeh, is pretty great.




    I'd consider myself a moderate lefty and don't relate one bit to the extreme left at all. Massive disparity between the two.




    However, I'd rather meet them than extreme right-wingers down a dark alley on a night out though. I live in a very working class, very left-wing neighbourhood of Madrid where you'd meet a lot of supposed extremists (they'd call themselves Communists, in fact) and they're good people with good intentions unlike the extreme right-wingers in this city (of which there are plenty) who threaten and intimidate and cause trouble. You couldn't say the two groups are as dangerous as one another.

    Obviously when we get into a discussion about leaders of totalitarian governments like North Korea, Nazi Germany, Spain under Franco etc. they're all as bad as each other.


  • #41
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Are you the crazy Israeli embassy guy who gets drunk at Christmas and gives out about Palestinians murdering Jesus?

    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Pro Planned Parenthood article here (courtesy of the in-house radical feminist):

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/menstruating-is-normal-sex-is-normal-contraception-is-normal-abortion-is-normal-it-s-time-to-get-over-it-1.1549402

    (comments section had to be shut down because it was such a clusterf*ck)

    Anti Semitic article here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/it-is-the-everyday-harassment-that-shows-the-hatred-behind-official-israeli-ideology-1.1547793

    Have they not learned from the very recent past?

    http://www.aleteia.org/en/lifestyle/news/pro-life-protest-outside-irish-times-ireland-3977001

    Is the Irish Times struggling for relevance in the information age by having to resort to publishing left-wing troll articles? The sooner this pimple on society pops; the better for this country -- a moderate, tolerant and principled Ireland.


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  • #42
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Pro Planned Parenthood article here (courtesy of the in-house radical feminist):

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/menstruating-is-normal-sex-is-normal-contraception-is-normal-abortion-is-normal-it-s-time-to-get-over-it-1.1549402

    (comments section had to be shut down because it was such a clusterf*ck)

    Anti Semitic article here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/it-is-the-everyday-harassment-that-shows-the-hatred-behind-official-israeli-ideology-1.1547793

    Have they not learned from the very recent past?

    http://www.aleteia.org/en/lifestyle/news/pro-life-protest-outside-irish-times-ireland-3977001

    Is the Irish Times struggling for relevance in the information age by having to resort to publishing left-wing troll articles? The sooner this pimple on society pops; the better for this country -- a moderate, tolerant and principled Ireland.

    Are people of your views struggling for relevence given that pretty much the entire country is moving on from taking our orders from the pulpit?

    And what's anti-semitic about reporting on Palestinians getting their homes bulldozed? It's a reality, I've seen it with my own eyes. Nothing about the Jewish faith in that article, nor about Israel's right to exist - just about their unacceptable conduct towards the palestinian people...


  • #43
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    valknut wrote: »
    The moderate right are ok as well, the extreme on both sides are clowns.

    Not every right wing person wants to exterminate others and goose step around the place!
    Agreed. Plenty of moderate conservatives whom I have great time for, and some eejits just condemn them as soon as they see the word "conservative" associated with them.
    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    I'd consider myself a moderate lefty and don't relate one bit to the extreme left at all. Massive disparity between the two.
    However, I'd rather meet them than extreme right-wingers down a dark alley on a night out though. I live in a very working class, very left-wing neighbourhood of Madrid where you'd meet a lot of supposed extremists (they'd call themselves Communists, in fact) and they're good people with good intentions unlike the extreme right-wingers in this city (of which there are plenty) who threaten and intimidate and cause trouble. You couldn't say the two groups are as dangerous as one another.
    Fully agreed. I can't abide e.g. Eirigí, but I'd still prefer them to the EDL!


  • #44
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Are people of your views struggling for relevence given that pretty much the entire country is moving on from taking our orders from the pulpit?
    And I'm prrrrrrrritty sure the catholic church didn't have great things to say about the Jews back in the day.


  • #45
    losthorizon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Indeed as the Golden Dawn Party in Greece has shown along with sister parties in other European nations Right Wing Extremism seems to be the order of the day.

    Golden Dawn has turned from a threat into a party capable of murder and intimidation and racism.


  • #46
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    And I'm prrrrrrrritty sure the catholic church didn't have great things to say about the Jews back in the day.

    Was more referring to the "Planned Parenthood - oh noes" but, but you are of course correct :P


  • #47
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    lazygal wrote: »
    Don't John Waters and Breda O'Brien have weekly columns?

    Both of them are just awful writers though, just absolutely awful, particularly Waters.

    Waters is a sad little straw man who is too self-obsessed to realise that he isgiven space so that he can be torn down with ease and vindicate the opinions of the majority of the readership.

    Waters exists to give an appearance of diversity of opinion in the paper.


  • #48
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Pro Planned Parenthood article here (courtesy of the in-house radical feminist):

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/menstruating-is-normal-sex-is-normal-contraception-is-normal-abortion-is-normal-it-s-time-to-get-over-it-1.1549402
    .

    I wasn't aware a woman wanting to control when she got pregnant was automatically worthy of the comment "radical feminist".
    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Anti Semitic article here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/it-is-the-everyday-harassment-that-shows-the-hatred-behind-official-israeli-ideology-1.1547793
    .

    Whats "anti semitic" about it?


  • #49
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    These labels sometimes obfuscate for than they clarify. But overall yes the IT has been filled wig rag propaganda lately.

    Anti Semitic is thrown about all over the place on bothe sides of the political wing.

    Technically because I support the European Councils official stance on circumcision, I would be considered anti Semitic, even though I'm a judeophile (except for all the god and circumcisions).


  • #50
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    P
    Anti Semitic article here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/it-is-the-everyday-harassment-that-shows-the-hatred-behind-official-israeli-ideology-1.1547793

    Have they not learned from the very recent past?



    How in the name of christ is that article Anti-Semitic?

    Criticism of the state of Israel is not anti-semitic and to suggest otherwise is idiocy.


  • #51
    Friend Computer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Friend Computer


    valknut wrote: »
    The moderate right are ok as well, the extreme on both sides are clowns.

    Not every right wing person wants to exterminate others and goose step around the place!

    Sometimes telling it as it is is enough to get labelled right wing these days.

    This is usually a codephrase for "incoherent babbling about immigration/abortion/gay marriage/other"; it's up there with "I'm not a racist but [insert racist diatribe]".


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  • #52
    valknut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭valknut


    Friend Computer wrote: »
    This is usually a codephrase for "incoherent babbling about immigration/abortion/gay marriage/other"; it's up there with "I'm not a racist but [insert racist diatribe]".

    If we were harder on certain communities it would integrate them better an be better for every one in the long run.

    Typical oul liberal attitude, defend anything other than your own culture call anyone you don't agree with racist.

    Also what does abortion have to do with racism?


  • #53
    KingOfFairview
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    valknut wrote: »
    If we were harder on certain communities it would integrate them better an be better for every one in the long run.

    Typical oul liberal attitude, defend anything other than your own culture call anyone you don't agree with racist.

    Also what does abortion have to do with racism?
    which communities


  • #54
    _Redzer_
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    The Aussie wrote: »
    So you think the Left are all Rainbows and Cuddles do you....


    From the Left it would appear that way I suppose.

    Nope, but I see them as the lesser of two evils. The left at least tries to have good intentions at heart. I've heard nothing but hate from the extreme right.

    I do think that centre left is best socially, though because it's more inclusive than the centre right.


  • #55
    iainbumerford
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 24 ✭iainbumerford


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Waters exists to give an appearance of diversity of opinion in the paper.

    This I agree with. The IT are quite smart about hiding their true left-wing motives.


  • #56
    iainbumerford
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 24 ✭iainbumerford


    valknut wrote: »
    Also what does abortion have to do with racism?

    Well, 52% of black people are never born in the US of A.


  • #57
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Well, 52% of black people are never born in the US of A.


    Would you care to share with us what was "anti-semetic" about the article you linked to in the OP?


  • #58
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    This I agree with. The IT are quite smart about hiding their true left-wing motives.

    Ya I know, that hidden eugenics programme within the article.


  • #59
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Nodin wrote: »
    Would you care to share with us what was "anti-semetic" about the article you linked to in the OP?
    I presume it gives out about Israeli policy re Palestine? Some people like to lie that that's anti-semitism.


  • #60
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    I presume it gives out about Israeli policy re Palestine? Some people like to lie that that's anti-semitism.


    O lets give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment.


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  • #61
    SoulandForm
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    iainbumerford wrote: »
    Anti Semitic article here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/it-is-the-everyday-harassment-that-shows-the-hatred-behind-official-israeli-ideology-1.1547793

    How on earth is that article anti-semitic???


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