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Garda facing child porn charges loses anonymity

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Caonima wrote: »
    How does that make me innocent? We're not all closeted keyboard warriors. I've seen my share. But I (A) worked as a journalist, and (B) have been to RTE during live shows, and know that the producers have a habit of "preparing" their guests (avoiding using the word sensationalising).

    Perhaps you prefer the word 'naive'?

    Just because tv chat shows do what tv chat shows do, doesn't mean that that particular guy wasn't telling the truth, either.

    Which in itself is a moot point, even if he lied through his teeth for fun, because these kind of things DO exist. Otherwise there would be no pedophiles, rapists, murderers, and barely any need for Gardai. Just ask the parents of the two little girls who went to a birthday party recently.

    I am kind of interested in why you would try to deny reality?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Filibuster wrote: »
    So we should have closed court cases or something?? The justice system should be open and transparent. The media should have full access & reporting rights.

    The rights of an innocent person are important. Once the case is over, all the (suitable) court evidence/transcripts etc can be made public to ensure transparency. If the defendant is innocent though, their name should be redacted.

    Transparency and the rights of the innocent are not mutually exclusive.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    How do people still get caught with child porn ?

    The same way someone gets caught with anything, there'll be a trail leading to'em. Particularly with digital data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The same way someone gets caught with anything, there'll be a trail leading to'em. Particularly with digital data.

    I'm of that opinion that, if that was the case, there'd be a lot more cases before the courts.

    Let's face it: if that's how he got caught, is he the only person in Ireland downlaoding it? How come the others are still at large?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    linky

    That Guard lost his anonyimity through the action of the Courts, the Irish Judicial System. They decided this person should be named!

    That Guard is currently suspended too. I would not be surprised if more Gardaí were named and shamed in the public for their behaviour too, as a result of this and their own actions as serving full-time members. It goes to show that no-one is above the law and all should be treated the same regardless of any contacts.

    I agree with the Defence Solicitor Mr. Kenny that
    the book of evidence to be served within four weeks to allow the case to be sent forward for trial as soon as possible as the allegations were a cause of stress and anxiety to his client.

    For the sake of all concerned, including the Guard himself; his family and any vulnerable person who ever approached him in his line of work as an alleged trustworthy, honest, reliable member of An Garda Síochána.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Newaglish


    and 341 other computer graphic images of child porn.

    I know it's not very pleasant but... why is it illegal to have computer graphic images of such things? I'd imagine it's a fairly victimless crime?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Newaglish wrote: »
    I know it's not very pleasant but... why is it illegal to have computer graphic images of such things? I'd imagine it's a fairly victimless crime?

    I'd imagine the children don't upload the photos themselves...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Newaglish


    lahalane wrote: »
    I'd imagine the children don't upload the photos themselves...

    I understood it to mean they were some kind of digital renders made with computer graphics. Unless I'm misreading it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    lahalane wrote: »
    I'd imagine the children don't upload the photos themselves...

    He's referring to images created by CGI or hand drawn.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Newaglish wrote: »
    I understood it to mean they were some kind of digital renders made with computer graphics. Unless I'm misreading it?

    Apologies, Im the one misreading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Newaglish wrote: »
    I know it's not very pleasant but... why is it illegal to have computer graphic images of such things? I'd imagine it's a fairly victimless crime?
    Child porn hysteria.

    Probably has some basis in a nonsense "gateway theory" that looking at any image depicting child pornography, whether it's real or not, will cause the viewer to become a violent sex offender. The same theory on which some people want to ban porn because apparently it creates rapists.

    Interestingly, any form of artwork, be it visual, auditory or text, which depicts a child in any act of a sexual nature, is child pornorgraphy in Irish law. A lot of Japanese people would be fncked.

    Of course it needs amendment to something more sensible, but naturally nobody gives a fnck about people who like to view child porn, it's not exactly a burning debate which will contribute anything of benefit to society. If you get off on child porn, go seek out help, not imagery.

    I am a little disappointed by the ruling. As came up with the Michael LaVell case, everyone should be entitled to anonymity unless they're proven guilty of the crimes they're accused of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Everyone's anonymity should be protected in these cases until they have been found guilty.

    This,

    No idea why everyone is giving the fair play milarky. It's only done so that more papers can be shifted.

    This is an absolutely shocking decision. Especially in these sort of cases. There is a reason anonymity is put in place from the start. Similar to the Athlone case. No one was even officially charged yet a mob of 500 people were ready to lynch a fella in the street.

    If the Guard is found innocent, his career is still in tatters, although he would be due a fairly serious payout from a legal case, based on his name being published.

    Suspects should be anonymous until proven guilty, it's absurdly retarded to even contemplate anything else. This country get's more moronic every day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Interestingly, the guy charged with the child assaults in Athlone has been granted anonymity.

    Sounsd a bit like double standards in reverse: either both are intitled to anonymity or neither of them is.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Interestingly, the guy charged with the child assaults in Athlone has been granted anonymity.

    Sounsd a bit like double standards in reverse: either both are intitled to anonymity or neither of them is.
    In this case it is most likely to protect the identities of the girls involved. Very typical when the man is a relative or friend.

    Myself and my wife were discussing this and she was perplexed as to how a man got into a party and took two kids without anyone noticing. Of course the man was probably there by invite - a family member or neighbour, who thought he could slip out and back without being noticed :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Interestingly, the guy charged with the child assaults in Athlone has been granted anonymity.

    Sounsd a bit like double standards in reverse: either both are intitled to anonymity or neither of them is.

    That's because he has known victims. They cannot be named in a rape case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    As far as I know his anonymity is being protected in order to protect the anonymity of the 'alleged' victims. The garda case is different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    seamus wrote: »
    In this case it is most likely to protect the identities of the girls involved. Very typical when the man is a relative or friend.

    Myself and my wife were discussing this and she was perplexed as to how a man got into a party and took two kids without anyone noticing. Of course the man was probably there by invite - a family member or neighbour, who thought he could slip out and back without being noticed :(

    He's reportedly homeless and not known to them (I'd like to know wh a 9 year old is going off with a stranger, but I don't want to finger-point).

    I see your point about the kids' anonymity, but I'd imagine that their identity s probably known already by more locals than the accused.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    He looks about as straight as a three euro coin.
    "Listen to the music, Marge - he's evil!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭oconnorw


    Listen it took two years to get to court. The book of evidence will not be produced for a month. Do you think your name should be exposed under those circumstances. You are not guilty until proven guilty. So in a months time if guilty then yes expose the guy and if bot found guilty do not. The press and rte are the scum of the earth. i rest my case


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