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  • #512
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭jos22


    should you not get the contract before starting ?

    on my job bridge I was given the contract before starting listing the hours days, and work that I be doing,
    stating that I could not be contacted or asked to work outside the times listed, and wasnt till after I had read and signed that they could move forward.


  • #513
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #514
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    CarrieLee wrote: »
    Thank you. Good advice.

    No problem

    Also before you goto the manager maybe contact the INOU for advice - their information officers are brilliant 018560088

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #515
    CarrieLee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭CarrieLee


    jos22 wrote: »
    should you not get the contract before starting ?

    on my job bridge I was given the contract before starting listing the hours days, and work that I be doing,
    stating that I could not be contacted or asked to work outside the times listed, and wasnt till after I had read and signed that they could move forward.

    I wish I had thought to ask.

    Whoever you were dealing with sounds much more organised than the person I'm dealing with. There was no mention of a contract for me. My job description wasn't even written down - I was just told what I'd be doing.


  • #516
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭jos22


    CarrieLee wrote: »
    I wish I had thought to ask.

    Whoever you were dealing with sounds much more organised than the person I'm dealing with. There was no mention of a contract for me. My job description wasn't even written down - I was just told what I'd be doing.

    that was on the job bridge scheme, it was nice lady in HR, she even went through the contract to explain the what the T and C in small print meant,

    seems alot of TUS supervisor treat people lambs for slaughter just move people from point a to b ,

    the tus person i was talking to tho, said they had nothing for my back ground at current and place that would have it are not walking distance to me, that I would not be required to travel, and that they would see if what they could find something suitable, and mention that I found a place my self that meet TUS requirements that I could just get them to ring the office and they would arrange for me to it with them, but he was in no rush to push me into a position that they could get someone with no education to do,


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  • #517
    CarrieLee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭CarrieLee


    jos22 wrote: »
    seems alot of TUS supervisor treat people lambs for slaughter just move people from point a to b ,

    This!

    The Tús supervision I am dealing with now is new to this position. There was another guy here who was very laid back about the whole thing and I guess that's why he's been replaced since he never got anyone to do anything on the scheme. This new person, though, is a different kettle of fish. They have an qualified electrician that I know out sweeping the streets/picking up litter. I, myself, am a college graduate, but it's not the work I'm doing (admin) that bothers me, just the way I'm being treated.


  • #518
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭jos22


    CarrieLee wrote: »
    This!

    The Tús supervision I am dealing with now is new to this position. There was another guy here who was very laid back about the whole thing and I guess that's why he's being replaced since he never got anyone to do anything on the scheme. This new person, though, is a different kettle of fish. They have an qualified electrician that I know out sweeping the streets/picking up litter. I, myself, am a college graduate, but it's not the work I'm doing (admin) that bothers me, just the way I'm being treated.

    too many company doing that, and no information giving to you of how to deal with abuse on the scheme,
    the tus lad I was talking to that time said people going back to them and they find an other placement etc,

    but when it come to you end then when the Tus supervisors dosn,t care or want to hear about, dosen't leave too many options,


  • #519
    terryduff12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    Have interview today at 11:40am for a position got a quick phone call asking what kind of jobs id be suitable for, we agreed on one place is I believe a over 55 club and kind of a tourist office place. So there going to see if im suitable for the position 2 full days and a half day were the hours she said I would be doing should be fun. I have a short temper so god help anyone that comes in sickening my hole for directions.


  • #520
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,382 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    CarrieLee wrote: »
    There was no mention of a contract, just 'oh, I'm not sure how exactly you'll get paid' and 'by the way - those hours are just a guideline. The work can be sent through to you at any time.'

    Talk about taking advantage.

    You really have got to stand up for yourself or they will keep taking advantage. Don;t text or email you TUS supervisor ring them now this morning and say you want a meeting today or tomorrow. Your supervisor is being paid for a job he seems to not be doing properly. How we can not know how you get paid is unacceptable. Tell him you want to see a contract you agreed to set hours. Your not a doctor on call or anything your doing basically a course you should get a rota for your hours before a week starts. If you supervisor can't give you the answers you want tell him your going to his supervisor and i am sure he will do his job.

    How somebody like this can have a job is beyond me. Same with FAS with me i had an interview for a CE scheme job. I got a phone call saying i missed an interview for a job and i could be in trouble for not attending it. We then find out he gave the hiring place my wrong house number and email address. He also gave me an address to post in my C.V. for a job in which he gave me the wrong address and phone number. It depresses you when these people are working and your getting pushed into exploitation.


  • #521
    rsole1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭rsole1


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    You really have got to stand up for yourself or they will keep taking advantage. Don;t text or email you TUS supervisor ring them now this morning and say you want a meeting today or tomorrow. Your supervisor is being paid for a job he seems to not be doing properly. How we can not know how you get paid is unacceptable. Tell him you want to see a contract you agreed to set hours. Your not a doctor on call or anything your doing basically a course you should get a rota for your hours before a week starts. If you supervisor can't give you the answers you want tell him your going to his supervisor and i am sure he will do his job.

    How somebody like this can have a job is beyond me. Same with FAS with me i had an interview for a CE scheme job. I got a phone call saying i missed an interview for a job and i could be in trouble for not attending it. We then find out he gave the hiring place my wrong house number and email address. He also gave me an address to post in my C.V. for a job in which he gave me the wrong address and phone number. It depresses you when these people are working and your getting pushed into exploitation.

    Same old story here in Ireland, not what you know , but who you know. Sick of it.


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  • #522
    danjo-xx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    and now we have..............................................





    Gateway:(


  • #523
    The Shlong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭The Shlong


    I got called for the 2nd interview and I rang to say I couldn't make it due to family commitments, the supervisor went mad and told me to inform Dept of SP and said "They ARE cutting people off you know!!!" thinking I'd say "sorry, sorry I'll be there" but I asked for the person to contact in the Dept and then I was told I was the 4th person that morning with an excuse so I hung up and rang the DSP, spoke to a lovely understanding lady who assured me all would be fine and not to worry about being cut off and thanks for letting us know.
    A month later I got a letter, by registered post, "Inviting" me for another interview which I did attend, barely on time, slouched on the chair and looked and acted like Saddam Hussein when he was captured, that was 2 months ago, heard nothing since. So if you really think like most people that all these schemes are a joke and just a way of renaming your payment and making you work for it..Blow the Interview!!!!!


  • #524
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #525
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭jos22


    The Shlong wrote: »
    I got called for the 2nd interview and I rang to say I couldn't make it due to family commitments, the supervisor went mad and told me to inform Dept of SP and said "They ARE cutting people off you know!!!" thinking I'd say "sorry, sorry I'll be there" but I asked for the person to contact in the Dept and then I was told I was the 4th person that morning with an excuse so I hung up and rang the DSP, spoke to a lovely understanding lady who assured me all would be fine and not to worry about being cut off and thanks for letting us know.
    A month later I got a letter, by registered post, "Inviting" me for another interview which I did attend, barely on time, slouched on the chair and looked and acted like Saddam Hussein when he was captured, that was 2 months ago, heard nothing since. So if you really think like most people that all these schemes are a joke and just a way of renaming your payment and making you work for it..Blow the Interview!!!!!


    that supervisor should be sacked, The DSP never has issue with people who say they can do x date for such a reason and just reschedules,


  • #526
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #527
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭jos22


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    I knew some people before who attended one of those mandatory fas interviews

    the fas cow said she was only taking ten people for the 20 who showed up and send the others home,

    the ten she send away then got threatening letters from DSP for failing to attend the fas interview,

    that person rang DSP and told them the issue and they didn't like be threaten due to the incompetence of fas


  • #528
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    I would like to point out that the forum charter applies to this thread.Please note that item`s 5 and 5a apply to state employee`s.

    Posters should take the time to read the charter please http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055070569


    mp22


  • #529
    DowDow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭DowDow


    anyone know how long the process takes from returning the initial "invite" letter to the the first interview roughly? i will play their game but hoping to be gone from ireland by the time this tus thing takes hold and crushes me into the ground


  • #530
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    DowDow wrote: »
    anyone know how long the process takes from returning the initial "invite" letter to the the first interview roughly?

    Every case is individual so its impossible to say

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #531
    DowDow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭DowDow


    and i suppose it would be based on where youre living and how many people/ community schemes are in your area? i was looking more for peoples personal experience rather than an exact time scale thats why i said roughly


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  • #532
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #533
    DowDow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭DowDow


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    thats if i agree to do it yes? i live in a rural area i wonder would this speed things up or slow it down? also fred swanson your comments have been bang on through this thread and have made me chuckle hats off to you sir, this scheme just seems to be a way to scare more ppl into moving away from ireland, probably work too


  • #534
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #535
    DowDow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭DowDow


    That sounds pretty rough alright fair play to your bro for not taking their **** lying down tho! i am hoping to have my exit plan finalized by the time these slags get their hooks in, if that is the case i can see what they offer me and if i get the same treatment as most on here i can let them do their worse coz i am leaving anyway if this happens i will report back, if my area wasnt so isolated and a kip i would be keen to do this scheme but i know there is nothing locally of any use because every avenue has already been exhausted so that means i will be put on litter pick up so i would rather tell them **** it and take my chances without jobseekers allowance then to have whats left of my dignity dressed in a high vis and washed away in the unforgiving winter rain


  • #536
    danjo-xx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Hi Fred, I'm very interested in Job seekers exemption from having to seek work as may find myself in this situation fairly shortly.

    Can I ask you if your brother actually had anything in writing to confirm the exemption from having to seek work.

    Presumely he had but just want to double check.


  • #537
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Hi Fred, I'm very interested in Job seekers exemption from having to seek work as may find myself in this situation fairly shortly.

    Can I ask you if your brother actually had anything in writing to confirm the exemption from having to seek work.

    Presumely he had but just want to double check.

    There is no such thing

    Presumably Freds Brother applied for disability allowance and was receiving supplementary welfare allowance (not jobseekers) in the interim.

    Presumably he also had to send in Doctors letters to the Community Welfare Officer

    Jobseekers payments are clear

    You have to

    Be capable of work
    Be available for and genuinely seeking work

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #538
    danjo-xx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Jobseekers payments are clear

    You have to

    Be capable of work
    Be available for and genuinely seeking work


    Not so, like most things in life there are always exceptions, though these are not always widely advertised but they do happen just the same.

    Job Seekers Transition JST for example, which is a 'provision' to Job Seekers for OPF exempting them from having to meet the requirement to be seeking work.


  • #539
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #540
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Not so, like most things in life there are always exceptions, though these are not always widely advertised but they do happen just the same.

    Job Seekers Transition JST for example, which is a 'provision' to Job Seekers for OPF exempting them from having to meet the requirement to be seeking work.

    There are always some minor exceptions but the vast majority of cases are clear cut with no exemption

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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