The YooToob thread

jimgoose · 30-09-2013 03:25PM

kaimera wrote: »

Like you said, after he hit one.

If the RR was in the correct lane the bikes wouldn't have been swarming around, they would have been keeping left when overtaking

They could have been overtaking to the left and to the right, while maintaining sensible road positions and not acting like a bunch of apes looking for a fight.

Caliden · 30-09-2013 03:44PM

If I was in that situation with my family in the Range Rover I would've done the same thing.

50+ bikers surround your SUV and one decides to brake check you? Then they surround the SUV where they more than likely tried to gain entry to the vehicle (they tried it again at the 5 minute mark). There would be no way in hell I would wait around to find out what they would do. Get the fúck out of there no matter what.

This isn't the first video I've seen where a large gang of bikers have turned vigilante after intimidating drivers into a reaction while on the road.

Sterling Archer · 30-09-2013 04:04PM

From what i can see, for the very selectively clip on youtube, it appears that the Bikes swarmed the RR, i'd guess that the bikes swarmed the RR in normal driving conditions and the RR attempted to move clear of the bikes,
Then the biker in the blue jeans seems to be annoyed with the RR and brake tests him (which reminds me of the biker on the motorway) which a stupid idea, and the RR inevitably hits the biker knocking him, to which the bikers react aggressively,
Now smashing through the bikers probably wasn't the best idea but not pulling away or calling the cops was a bigger mistake,

It's pretty saddening to see the bikers behavior, but it only takes a few bad eggs to get everyone tared with the same brush, most of those bikers probably would have talked it out with the RR driver but the sheer numbers of bikers probably intimidated the driver into a panic, and the combination of an angry biker approaching you and your family would make you muscle memory kick in and floor it.

JohnBoy26 · 30-09-2013 04:07PM

CiniO wrote: »

Smashing the windows of a range rover with kids inside is nothing comparing to running over few people.
Imagine you are riding bikes with your friend, and some maniac runs over few of you. Would you just let him go?

They had to stop him some way.

They did not have to stop him at all though. A simple 911 call would of been the right thing to do.

Also(not siding with anyone) but Imo the bikers driving was atrocious blocking up all the road and stopping in places where they shouldn't be stopped.

Caliden · 30-09-2013 04:07PM

Shane_ef wrote: »

From what i can see, for the very selectively clip on youtube, it appears that the Bikes swarmed have the RR, i'd guess that the bikes swarmed the RR in normal driving and the RR attempted to move clear of the bikes,
Then the biker in the blue jeans seems to be annoyed with the RR and brake tests him (which reminds me of the biker on the motorway) which a stupid idea, and the RR inevitably hits the biker knocking him, to which the bikers react aggressively,
Now smashing through the bikers probably wasn't the best idea but not pulling away or calling the cops was a bigger mistake,

It's pretty saddening to see the bikers behavior, but it only takes a few bad eggs to get everyone tared with the same brush, most of those bikers probably would have talked it out with the RR driver but the sheer numbers of bikers probably intimidated the driver into a panic, and the combination of an angry biker approaching you and your family would make you muscle memory kick in and floor it.

Basic fight or flight response and no sane person is going to fight 50 bikers surrounding your car. Definitely could've been handled better by the bikers by involving the police instead of getting justice themselves.

CiniO · 30-09-2013 04:10PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They did not have to stop him at all though. A simple 911 call would of been the right thing to do.

Also(not siding with anyone) but Imo the bikers driving was atrocious blocking up all the road and stopping in places where they shouldn't be stopped.

Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

Caliden · 30-09-2013 04:15PM

CiniO wrote: »

Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

Highly doubt that. The bikers were goading him by surrounding the car initially.

What authority do they have to surround a car on the freeway to "talk" to the driver. I use the word talk loosely because I highly doubt that's all that happened before he tried fleeing.

He's lucky he's not dead which could easily have happened if it occurred on an empty freeway and not a city centre where there are independent witnesses.

Wexfordian · 30-09-2013 04:21PM

CiniO wrote: »

Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

He did stop. Then he got surrounded by a large group of bikers.

farna_boy · 30-09-2013 04:21PM

CiniO wrote: »

Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

From what I understand, the start of the video is much later than the first incident where he hit a bike. When the video starts, the bikers have already caught up with him once, have surrounded him and are trying to get into the car.

To be honest, if any group surrounded my car like that and were trying to break the windows, I'm not sure if I would have reacted any differently. He should have stopped/called the police after the first "tip", but the second they started swarming and trying to break into the car, I wouldn't blame him for trying to escape, especially with wife and kid in the car.

Cuddlesworth · 30-09-2013 04:22PM

Caliden wrote: »

Highly doubt that. The bikers were goading him by surrounding the car initially.

The actual incident that started it happened before that. My understanding is that he hit a biker in the rally, ignored it and drove off. The results of which we see in the video.

I've seen other similar incidents on youtube with hit and runs, only in this case it was a large jeep vs hundreds of pissed off bikers.

JohnBoy26 · 30-09-2013 04:24PM

CiniO wrote: »

Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

It could of finished much better for everyone if common sense was used.

However imo the bikers are the route cause of this incident due to them blocking up the whole road and subsequently blocking in the range rover.

now im not saying the driver of the rr was in the right but it looks to me that it was a moment of panic rather than a moment of rage. One can only imagine how intimidating it must of been to be surrounded by those bikers. However if I was in that situation myself I just couldn't run over those bikers like he did no matter how panicked I was. Not everyone will react in the same way to certain situations though

Caliden · 30-09-2013 04:27PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

The actual incident that started it happened before that. My understanding is that he hit a biker in the rally, ignored it and drove off. The results of which we see in the video.

I've seen other similar incidents on youtube with hit and runs, only in this case it was a large jeep vs hundreds of pissed off bikers.

So after the initial hit and run they try and brake check someone who has already hit a biker? :eek:

They are american I suppose so that's a possibility.

kaimera · 30-09-2013 04:51PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

The actual incident that started it happened before that. My understanding is that he hit a biker in the rally, ignored it and drove off. The results of which we see in the video.

I've seen other similar incidents on youtube with hit and runs, only in this case it was a large jeep vs hundreds of pissed off bikers.

Got any link to that info CW?

Kenny Logins · 30-09-2013 05:00PM

Actually if you watch again I think that was the entire incident - RR is in middle lane, it is then swarmed and one guy brake tests him, getting a minor bump, then it all kicks off.

They were attacking the car when he floored it, as you can see in this clip - http://instagram.com/p/e4oRXROz8y/

This report states that the driver's face was slashed, and received stitches. So I guess that fear of being stabbed was justified?

http://gothamist.com/2013/09/30/video_driver_plows_over_motorcyclis.php

*Kol* · 30-09-2013 05:06PM

Any videos in this youtube thread? :P

Wexfordian · 30-09-2013 05:06PM

Long thread on reddit about this, and the sympathy for the bikers is overwhelming in its absence.

Wexfordian · 30-09-2013 05:08PM

*Kol* wrote: »

Any videos in this youtube thread? :P

Actually its probably worth spinning all these posts into a dedicated thread.

RoryMac · 30-09-2013 05:08PM

Wexfordian wrote: »

Long thread on reddit about this, and the sympathy for the bikers is overwhelming in its absence.

Hardly surprising looking at the content of the video

Cuddlesworth · 30-09-2013 05:19PM

kaimera wrote: »

Got any link to that info CW?

You don't need it, look at the video again. The bikers swarmed the jeep, moved in front and all of them started slowing down. There is a reason why the biker with the camera and every single other biker stopped and looked back, that was already the plan. Seriously, there were at least 20 other motorbikes in front when the first guy to get hit(that you see) stops. They all stopped as well and not a single one missed it and drove off?

The daily mail article states that there was a incident before. Looking at the video its pretty obvious there was something else that kicks it off.

coolisin · 30-09-2013 05:40PM

Everyone in that video is to blame.
The mob mentality of the bikers is crazy, the aggression is over the top and warrents the idea it's best to get away.
Whatever about the guy stopping that is involved on the bump and the two having a chat.
And I mean a chat exchange details and move on, not all 100 bikers stopping to talk to him.

I'm just thinking of myself in that situation would I have done the same probably.
And any biker that thinks different is a liar. Remember this is the USA anyone could be invoking the right to bear arms.

The first bump "pre video" that we are missing out on, are we sure the driver in the massive lump is aware the incident happened.
Depending on the level of "bump", he may not be aware he hit the biker.

Nobody knows, all I know is that video is giving me anxiety thinking how scary that incident is.

Oh and technically he is not middle lane hogging it's considered normal practice there to stay in your lane overtake and undertake as required!
Well that's the best description I can give of anytime I've driven there!!!

CianRyan · 30-09-2013 05:45PM

Videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEcbwvNaxE8

GreeBo · 30-09-2013 05:45PM

coolisin wrote: »

Everyone in that video is to blame.
The mob mentality of the bikers is crazy, the aggression is over the top and warrents the idea it's best to get away.
Whatever about the guy stopping that is involved on the bump and the two having a chat.
And I mean a chat exchange details and move on, not all 100 bikers stopping to talk to him.

I'm just thinking of myself in that situation would I have done the same probably.
And any biker that thinks different is a liar. Remember this is the USA anyone could be invoking the right to bear arms.

The first bump "pre video" that we are missing out on, are we sure the driver in the massive lump is aware the incident happened.
Depending on the level of "bump", he may not be aware he hit the biker.

Nobody knows, all I know is that video is giving me anxiety thinking how scary that incident is.

I dont see how the driver is to blame?
He gets surrounded and intimidated by a bunch of bikers who block him him in, force him to stop and later try to get into his car, ending in smashing their way in and injuring him?

I'd drive over whatever was stopping me in that scenario...in fact I think I wouldnt have slowed down in the first place.

from the head-cam the bikers are driving all over the road, even when they are chasing him they have a few near misses with each other, people skimming between camera guy and the guard rail....nut jobs.

(apart from the "chick" in the white thong...stay classy!)

Supergurrier · 30-09-2013 07:17PM

Bikers were to blame, they had no right to box him in and forced the driver to make a snap decision.

Gangs like this should be banned absolutely.

CianRyan · 30-09-2013 07:34PM

Original GTRs, RWB to Amilcar.
An insight to the classic car shops in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouhdGnH1QmA

Wexfordian · 30-09-2013 07:39PM

CianRyan wrote: »

Original GTRs, RWB to Amilcar.
An insight to the classic car shops in Japan.

Jays Cian, you're determined to derail this thread with your you-tube videos aren't you

CianRyan · 30-09-2013 07:42PM

Wexfordian wrote: »

Jays Cian, you're determined to derail this thread with your you-tube videos aren't you

Bloody right, nice long ones to distract everyone.

Brian_Zeluz · 30-09-2013 07:42PM

Oooooh look a video, them's rare around these parts.

Wexfordian · 30-09-2013 07:44PM

CianRyan wrote: »

Bloody right, nice long ones to distract everyone.

Only watch the start of that, will have to come back to it though. Some lovely motors there, be a hell of a job to have.

Foxhole Norman · 30-09-2013 07:50PM

Quality review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1kuo6xkbE

CianRyan · 30-09-2013 07:51PM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Quality review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1kuo6xkbE

cul video bro!

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