Video game violence

alwayssideways · 27-09-2013 03:37PM

ScumLord · 27-09-2013 03:38PM

boatbuilder wrote: »

I would guess that the vast majority of GTA games bought within the last week are for the use of 14-20 years olds.
Same problem as there is with alcohol in this country - it seems totally acceptable to a lot of parents to allow their underage kids to get drunk at 15.

A post in the GTA forum asked how old the players are, most are in their 30's. Gta is a long running game, I played it as a kid and I'm 33 now. It's as old as house music and the A-team.

Gaming is an adult pass time now.

Pudsy33 · 27-09-2013 03:38PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

There's your first mistake....

Why is it any different to a man watching tv by himself? The ignorance and double standards around gaming is ridiculous.

bizmark · 27-09-2013 03:39PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

You really are a time traveler from the 80s

GavRedKing · 27-09-2013 03:39PM

The only part of this game I thought, "ooohhh thats a bit violent " was the torture scene, had you seen that I'd hate to see your response.

I am pie · 27-09-2013 03:39PM

Should have taken the game off him and left him with a pack of benson and hedges and a bottle of whiskey. Let him enjoy all the really cool adult vices.

kingtiger · 27-09-2013 03:39PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

is that not the same sitting down watching sport \ movies \ **** ?

ScumLord · 27-09-2013 03:39PM

kylith wrote: »

There are many, many things that are more violent than GTA that you'd probably have no problem with your nephew watching/reading; comics, war movies,

The news, real life.. Arts imitates life, if people want less violent games they should stop being so violent in real life.

The Backwards Man · 27-09-2013 03:40PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

*zips up pants*

:mad:

krudler · 27-09-2013 03:40PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

It's no different that reading a book, watching tv or a movie. Gaming has come a long, long way in the last few years. The budgets rival Hollywood blockbusters now, GTAV cost over 200 million dollars to make.

AtomicHorror · 27-09-2013 03:41PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

You jest with us OP, surely.

TheIrishGrover · 27-09-2013 03:42PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

Ah, you over-cooked it there pall

Captain Chaos · 27-09-2013 03:43PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

Not when the market demographic for hard core dedicated gamers is from around 20-35 years old.

That's where all the gaming companies, console makers and gaming PC manufactures make 80% of their money. Not from parents buying 18s rated games for their kids.

alwayssideways · 27-09-2013 03:43PM

Lock this thread up. Obviously a troll looking for some afternoon entertainment.

kylith · 27-09-2013 03:43PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

Well, you're wrong. Video games started when many of us were children and have grown up with us. Did you give up all your childhood hobbies when you turned 15, or did you just switch to adult versions like the rest of us?

Saying that a video games are for kids is like saying that books are for kids. You wouldn't give a 9 year old The Silence of The Lambs because 'books are for kids', would you?

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

Not just grown men.

Yours Sincerely,
A grown woman who's annoyed that you can't stab the minstrels in the face in Assassin's Creed II.

Savoir.Faire · 27-09-2013 03:52PM

No, no I accept that I am wrong about video games not just being for kids. My circle of friends don't play them, well that I know of, but I suppose that's not to say other adults don't get pleasure from them. My own game is golf, and I'm sure plenty of people think I'm rather silly for smacking a ball around a field all day, but there you go.

The thing I couldn't get is how people get pleasure from inflicting violence and cruelty on other people (albeit virtual) It seems like a sign of sone psychological problem if they find that enjoyable?

krudler · 27-09-2013 03:53PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

No, no I accept that I am wrong about video games not just being for kids. My circle of friends don't play them, well that I know of, but I suppose that's not to say other adults don't get pleasure from them. My own game is golf, and I'm sure plenty of people think I'm rather silly for smacking a ball around a field all day, but there you go.

The thing I couldn't get is how people get pleasure from inflicting violence and cruelty on other people (albeit virtual) It seems like a sign of sone psychological problem if they find that enjoyable?

Better that than taking it out on friends and coworkers.

ScumLord · 27-09-2013 03:56PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The thing I couldn't get is how people get pleasure from inflicting violence and cruelty on other people (albeit virtual) It seems like a sign of sone psychological problem if they find that enjoyable?

It's, not, real!

If you think violent games are a sign of psychological problems then you have to say the same about films and books.

It's a fantasy land where you can do what you like without repercussions. It would take real mental instability to see this as an example of how you should act in real life. Especially when your dying every 5 minutes.

bizmark · 27-09-2013 03:56PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The thing I couldn't get is how people get pleasure from inflicting violence and cruelty on other people (albeit virtual) It seems like a sign of sone psychological problem if they find that enjoyable?

I dont know you play a physical sport how many times have you accidentally hurt someone ? do you have a real psychological problem for continuing to enjoy that game after seeing footballers get their ankles snapped by other people?

on the other hand i know in gta 5 theres no real people that can be hurt so whats your point ?

Logical Fallacy · 27-09-2013 03:56PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

He's 9. He was driving a pickup truck in the game and the character was calling some female drug addict 'a crack smokin' ho'. He then stabbed an obese women in the face as he ran down the street.

I love the way you have an issue with the game, not with you brother who allows his child to play an 18+ rated game.

Fairly typical tbh, dodge the true issue which is the parenting.

meemeemee · 27-09-2013 03:56PM

The difference with video game violence is that it is something one actively directs rather than passively watches.

I do wonder what the effect of all that adrenaline, that is essentially not used is.

I am afraid far too many parents casually buy Call Of Duty, GTA and so on for their kids. Just games innit.

pappyodaniel · 27-09-2013 03:58PM

In all honestly, my dreams have become ridiculously violent since I started playing GTA last week. Last night in my sleep I done an Anders Behring Breivik and woke up this morning quite shaken by it. Am still gonna play the **** out of it though.

Dreams/Reality

super_furry · 27-09-2013 04:00PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

He's 9. He was driving a pickup truck in the game and the character was calling some female drug addict 'a crack smokin' ho'. He then stabbed an obese women in the face as he ran down the street.

Your brother and his wife are bad parents. Not much else to say really.

MickFleetwood · 27-09-2013 04:01PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

I actually was also of the opinion that video games are for kids and teenagers?

The idea that a grown man spends their time alone playing games is a little strange to me I must admit.

It's a form of entertainment like any other. Does the idea of a grown man spending their time alone watching movies or reading books seem strange to you also?

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-09-2013 04:01PM

Did you write a letter to the Irish Times about your husband OP?

kylith · 27-09-2013 04:02PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

No, no I accept that I am wrong about video games not just being for kids. My circle of friends don't play them, well that I know of, but I suppose that's not to say other adults don't get pleasure from them. My own game is golf, and I'm sure plenty of people think I'm rather silly for smacking a ball around a field all day, but there you go.

I cannot understand how people play golf. I'd be of the 'a good walk, ruined' opinion. Same with football; I just don't have any interest in it at all.

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

The thing I couldn't get is how people get pleasure from inflicting violence and cruelty on other people (albeit virtual) It seems like a sign of sone psychological problem if they find that enjoyable?

Because they're not real, it's a great way to blow off steam and work out frustrations, and it's fun. Did you refuse to watch Saving Private Ryan because you couldn't understand why people would enjoy seeing people get shot? Or Rocky because you couldn't understand why people would enjoy seeing a man get his face beaten in? Or Reservoir Dogs because you couldn't understand why people would enjoy watching gangsters murdering each other? Or You've Been Framed because you can't understand how people could laugh at someone's obvious pain?

Finishing a mission in GTA is like finishing a tricky hole in golf under par. It takes skill, practice and dedication, and there's a real sense of acheivement at the end. Tests have shown that regular gamers have better co-ordination, and faster reaction times and decision making skills than average. Games are good for you.

TheIrishGrover · 27-09-2013 04:02PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

It's a form of entertainment like any other. Does the idea of a grown man spending their time alone watching movies or reading books seem strange to you also?

Only if they're not smoking a pipe also

ScumLord · 27-09-2013 04:03PM

meemeemee wrote: »

I do wonder what the effect of all that adrenaline, that is essentially not used is.

You do make use of the adrenaline in gaming. It's increases reaction times.

I am afraid far too many parents casually buy Call Of Duty, GTA and so on for their kids. Just games innit.

I agree, COD has been rubbish since they went all modern.

A war game that would really turn someone off being a soldier is the ARMA series. It's more in line with a military sim, with one shot one kill and you spend a lot of time hiding in a bush when it's more realistic like that.

In the real world people that have grown up with fake violence in games and films have no way of dealing with real violence, it's scares them and they can't cope. Send any western gamer to a place like the congo and they'll be ****ting a brick not excited to be in the thick of it.

Penn · 27-09-2013 04:04PM

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

It got me thinking about how violent young people are today and I wondered are they connected? When young boys are spending their time murdering virtual prostitutes in a darkened room instead of out playing hurling and soccer...

I'd be willing to bet that far more people get hurt each year from playing sport than any violence which can be linked solely to videogames.

krudler · 27-09-2013 04:05PM

ScumLord wrote: »

You do make use of the adrenaline in gaming. It's increases reaction times.

I agree, COD has been rubbish since they went all modern.

A war game that would really turn someone off being a soldier is the ARMA series. It's more in line with a military sim, with one shot one kill and you spend a lot of time hiding in a bush when it's more realistic like that.

In the real world people that have grown up with fake violence in games and films have no way of dealing with real violence, it's scares them and they can't cope. Send any western gamer to a place like the congo and they'll be ****ting a brick not excited to be in the thick of it.

That's the thing, in a game it'd take a lot to shock me, if I saw someone getting the sh1t kicked out of them for real or someone severly injured it'd affect me.

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