Speeding fine in Germany Cost

Damien360 wrote: »

Just got flashed in a rental car in Germany and google will not give me good info on the cost. Big flash in my face. Red light on the pole.

Fixed camera 70kmph zone near and I figure I was doing 85-90kmph as I was slowing down. Saw the 80kmph sign a bit before it, but not the 70 until after.

Are there any regular visitors to Germany or those of you living here that can tell me the bill I will get.

According to this calculator, it will be between 30 and 35 euros fine, depending if it was outside or inside builtup area.
There's no penalty points issued for speeding up to 20km/h, but you wouldn't get any penalty points anyway unless you hold German licence.


Here's the list:


Inside built up area.

to 10 km/h 15,- EUR
11-15 km/h 25,- EUR
16-20 km/h 35,- EUR
21-25 km/h 80,- EUR, 1 penalty point
26-30 km/h 100,- EUR, 3 penalty points
31-40 km/h 160,- EUR, 3 penalty points, 1 month driving ban
41-50 km/h 200,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 1 month driving ban
51-60 km/h 280,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 2 months driving ban
61-70 km/h 480,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 3 months driving ban
over 70 km/h 680,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 3 months driving ban


Outside built up area (including motorways and double carriageways)

to 10 km/h 10,- EUR
11-15 km/h 20,- EUR
16-20 km/h 30,- EUR
21-25 km/h 70,- EUR, 1 penalty point
26-30 km/h 80,- EUR, 3 penalty points
31-40 km/h 120,- EUR, 3 penalty points
41-50 km/h 160,- EUR, 3 penalty points, 1 month driving ban
51-60 km/h 240,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 1 months driving ban
61-70 km/h 440,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 2 months driving ban
over 70 km/h 600,- EUR, 4 penalty points, 3 months driving ban

CiniO wrote: »

According to this calculator, it will be between 30 and 35 euros fine, depending if it was outside or inside builtup area.
There's no penalty points issued for speeding up to 20km/h, but you wouldn't get any penalty points anyway unless you hold German licence.

Its more complicated that than.
If they have an agreement with another country its on your name and address (e.g. Netherlands and Belgium)
If its another country without an agreement its on your plate only (e.g. Ireland)
If its a German Rental, its on your license details
If its a foreign rental (e.g. Dutch) they can't store it against anything although the points are still stored in Flesburg against the plate number.

Germans don't have any details on my driving license and yet I still have few points stored against my name in Flensburg.

bear1 wrote: »

It's a rented car which means the fine will be sent to the owner of the car (not you). As you used your credit card to book the car then what they will do is withdraw the amount fined plus an additional penalty for the inconvenience.
You will probably receive an email or letter or call informing you of this.

Are you sure that renter is allowed to pay the fine for someone?

Logical for me is that renter passes details of driver to appropriate authority, and then it's this authority problem to force that person to pay.

Usually rental companies charge a fee for doing this (passing drivers details to authority).

I can't believe rental company could pay fine for someone.

CiniO wrote: »

I didn't know that.
What happens if you exceed amount of penalty points on your name / plate?

Besides OP seemed not to be speeding enough to get any points.



I remember few years ago I got flashed by speed camera near Kassel. I was in my Irish registered car and I was about 20 - 30 km/h over the limit.
Never received anything.

Don't know, never exceeded the points.

Had an Irish plate car, recieved nothing
Have a Dutch plated car, recieved fine in the post and another letter saying my points were in flensburg.
Had a rented dutch car, recieved fine but no notification of points (something about data protection laws between the rental company and the German Authorities)
Had a rented german car, recieved a fine and points on my license although its a seperate record from the one against my home address.

Queried the points thing with the Landhaupstadt Duesseldorf about having Irish plates, they advised the points are stored along with all the other plates and if you go over you are banned from driving in Germany the same as everyone else, never looked into what the penalty was.

Crazy system.

All my points are gone now anyway

CiniO wrote: »

Are you sure that renter is allowed to pay the fine for someone?

Logical for me is that renter passes details of driver to appropriate authority, and then it's this authority problem to force that person to pay.

Usually rental companies charge a fee for doing this (passing drivers details to authority).

I can't believe rental company could pay fine for someone.

That is exactly what happens. Part of terms and conditions.
Friend got fined from rental in Italy this way.
There is a chance that instead of paying they will forward the fine to offender, but it is just easier for them to pay it on your behalf...

SuperS54 wrote: »

Don't know about other countries but I rented a car in Ireland last year, got clocked by one of the outsourced speeding vans. Received fine etc. at my mothers address (license address), they contacted the car hire firm to get the details.

That's seems right.
Why should the hire company pay the fine for someone.
Maybe that person doesn't wish to pay it, and contest the fine in court.

keithclancy wrote: »

Don't know, never exceeded the points.

Had an Irish plate car, recieved nothing
Have a Dutch plated car, recieved fine in the post and another letter saying my points were in flensburg.
Had a rented dutch car, recieved fine but no notification of points (something about data protection laws between the rental company and the German Authorities)
Had a rented german car, recieved a fine and points on my license although its a seperate record from the one against my home address.

Was that home address the same as you had the Dutch registered car registered to?
If it's different, it would be difficult for them to match those details, that you are the same person.

Queried the points thing with the Landhaupstadt Duesseldorf about having Irish plates, they advised the points are stored along with all the other plates and if you go over you are banned from driving in Germany the same as everyone else, never looked into what the penalty was.

Crazy system.

Sounds right to me.
If you keep making offences in Irish registered car, they should accumulate point, and eventually ban you.

Only problem is if it's the same driver in that car at all times. I suppose they should be able to prove that before banning the driver.


Lot's of countries impose points for foreign licence holders, and if the exceed the limit, they are banned in that country.

CiniO wrote: »

Was that home address the same as you had the Dutch registered car registered to?
If it's different, it would be difficult for them to match those details, that you are the same person.

Probably a bit of a shamozzle as my License is Irish with my old Irish address on it.

SuperS54 wrote: »

Just remembered, after I received my credit card statement I seen that the hire car company had added a later charge of 30 Euro, I queried it with the credit card company and it was dropped after no response from car hire side ~ it may have been some sort of admin fee for the speeding fine check, so keep an eye on your credit card bill.

With my recent rental agreement, there was a point that rental comany reserves the right to charge 30 euros for revealing drivers details to appropriate authorities in case of traffic fines.

So if I was caught speeding by speed camera, rental company get (as a vehicle owner) gets a notification of speeding, and they give my details to authority so the authority can issue a fine in my name. Rental company change 30 quid for that.

Del2005 wrote: »

AFAIK the automated cameras can't process foreign registered vehicles unless there's an agreement between the two countries.



It all depends on what you signed in the rental office.

No, the Automated cameras work on foreign plates for sure

There was this thing that happened a few years back where a guy was caught cheating on his wife due to the ticket being delivered in his wife's name since it was her car.

Yer man sued and won, after that they changed it so a different department blur out the passenger and the picture is only sent of the driver.

Article is a bit wrong though, the Gatso or whatever type of camera it is captures the whole thing, its a pretty dumb device that just takes a picture and then a separate department alters it later, but its not available to the police.

Some English guy copped onto this and played a bit of a prank:



http://www.thelocal.de/society/20081029-15209.html

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Only way they could catch him was to actually pull over the car since the UK has no sharing agreement with Germany.

But all the fines were logged against his plate... i'm pretty sure they caught him in the end.

The Dutch ones definitely do, I know of one guy that has his car seized at a checkpoint, 4500 euros in fines, he'd been blasting through the Average speed cameras for ages without knowing what a Trajectcontrole was

Del2005 wrote: »

French ones don't work on Irish plates;)

They work on all plates.

Just the fine doesn't go anywhere as they don't have anywhere to send the fine to

Same in the UK

Same with the toll free barrier in Ireland actually

keithclancy wrote: »

They work on all plates.

Just the fine doesn't go anywhere as they don't have anywhere to send the fine to

Same in the UK

Same with the toll free barrier in Ireland actually

If they really wanted, f.e. German camera operator could send an inquiry to Shannon for details of vehicle owner with given number plates that got caught on camera, and Shannon possibly should reveal those details. Then Germans could send a fine straight to vehicle owner to Ireland.

keithclancy wrote: »

Same with the toll free barrier in Ireland actually

Know a guy who received bill from e-flow in Poland. You never know.
Never heard about anyone getting fine for speeding in the same way.