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Do girls think its ok to kick boys in the nuts?

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  • #152
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    Its because boys are reared to adore boobs.

    Girls are reared to live in terror of the phallus. It's icky it's yucky.

    That's why.


  • #153
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    Two important points Czarcasm.

    He was fully clothed.

    He did not touch her.

    that would be completely irrelevant if they were adults, he doesn't have to be naked for it to be considered sexual harassment. If one of your male colleagues decided tomorrow to shove his crotch into a customers/colleagues face and ask her to talk to it I doubt he would be in employment for very long and possibly facing a charge of harassment/indecent assault.


  • #154
    King Hearts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭King Hearts


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    A girl thrusting her crotch in a boys face just isn't going to present the same threat, and it would be silly to suggest that it would. A boy can still tea bag a girl without her consent, can a girl do the same to a guy? No.

    Ridiculous


  • #155
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    pharmaton wrote: »
    that would be completely irrelevant if they were adults, he doesn't have to be naked for it to be considered sexual harassment. If one of your male colleagues decided tomorrow to shove his crotch into a customers/colleagues face and ask her to talk to it I doubt he would be in employment for very long and possibly facing a charge of harassment/indecent assault.

    It's sexual harassment for sure.

    But it's not sexual assault.

    And if I punched a male college in the nuts as a response, yes I would have a sexual assault charge.


  • #156
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    It's sexual harassment for sure.

    But it's not sexual assault.

    And if I punched a male college in the nuts as a response, yes I would have a sexual assault charge.
    On charges, the boys actions could be considered indecent assault or sexual harrasment. Either one seems perfectly acceptable to you however. If someone responded to an indecent assault by way of violence it could be considered an act of defense. I'm guessing you have young sons and will defend to the death their right to play with their penises.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_assault
    The meaning of indecency depends upon prevailing views of what is unacceptable behaviour.[4] In 1987 it was stated in the United Kingdom this includes indecent behaviour rather than contact and might include forcing someone to watch pornography or masturbation.[4] This is also applicable to physical attack cases, including but not explicit to unwanted oral sex.
    The mens rea and actus reus of indecent assault are essentially as for common law assault and/or battery. However, there is the additional element of 'indecent circumstances'. 'Indecent circumstances' are currently identified by the following:
    An offence is indecent if a 'reasonable person' would believe it indecent, whatever the belief of the accused.
    An offence is not indecent if a 'reasonable person' would believe it not indecent, whatever the belief of the accused.
    If the offence cannot be assigned to either preceding category, then it will be indecent if it can be shown that the accused thought it indecent.


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  • #157
    returnNull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would not allow my Children ( if I had any) to watch such things and I would certainly not care less about any study that says it has no effect.
    Well should of said that rather than posting this
    Unfortunately the Boy's reactions are most likely a result of being allowed to watch unsuitable T.V which is the case of too many Children these days along with extremely violent computer games, ah sure what harm can it do, typical ignorance.

    and then having to back track.

    As for what kids watch/play thats a parent's call.

    I let my son play Call of Duty and battlefield.Why because its a poxy game the kid knows its a game.Violent games/movies do not equate to a violent person,you can have the opinion it does but without any other evidence thats all it is,opinion.

    Also give kids some credit.I leave my steam account unlocked so he has access to the games.He wont touch any of the deadspace games or bioshock because within 2 minutes of starting the game up he knows he wont like it because off the content.

    Same with my movie folder,he'll pick any of the harry potter movies but you can bet he would close 'a serbian movie' within seconds of it starting for the same reason he'd close the scary games.


  • #158
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    pharmaton wrote: »
    On charges, the boys actions could be considered indecent assault or sexual harrasment. Either one seems perfectly acceptable to you however. If someone responded to an indecent assault by way of violence it could be considered an act of defense. I'm guessing you have young sons and will defend to the death their right to play with their penises.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_assault


    You can guess away to your hearts content, but until your capable of rational thought without resorting to personal attacks you will sitting on my ignore bench.


  • #159
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    You can guess away to your hearts content, but until your capable of rational thought without resorting to personal attacks you will sitting on my ignore bench.
    of course you will. [rational thought] Defends sexual harrasment by boys, condemns physical assault by girls. [/rational thought]


  • #160
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    pharmaton wrote: »
    of course you will. [rational thought] Defends sexual harrasment by boys, condemns physical assault by girls. [/rational thought]

    I'm not defending sexual harassment by boys. I'm condemning parents praise of girls responding with sexual assault.

    Goodbye.


  • #161
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    I'm not defending sexual harassment by boys. I'm condemning parents praise of girls responding with sexual assault.

    Goodbye.

    so do you believe the boy is guilty of sexual harassment? You really should probably follow through with your promise and put me on ignore.


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  • #162
    King Hearts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭King Hearts


    pharmaton wrote: »
    so do you believe the boy is guilty of sexual harassment? You really should probably follow through with your promise and put me on ignore.

    I think you are on ignore.


  • #163
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    If he has the ability to hit her, he also has the ability to restrain her.

    Ridiculous. It's a lot easier to hit someone than it is to restrain them. If I get attacked by somebody, I have a much better chance of defending myself if I strike back. Unless the person is very very small its going to be difficult to restrain them.

    If you were a bouncer you're probably fairly big though, so that would give you an advantage. I wouldn't exactly be a big bloke myself.


  • #164
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    pharmaton wrote: »
    of course you will. [rational thought] Defends sexual harrasment by boys, condemns physical assault by girls. [/rational thought]

    Wow! 10 year old boy in sex fiend exclusive

    Back after add with our headline report :" all men are rapists" shocker

    Just wow


  • #165
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    tritium wrote: »
    So do you think that an environment where her mother celebrates an act of violence on her daughters part is a healthy stable environment where she is likely to have the supports to turn into a balanced member if society?


    No, I don't. Now, why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that the boy thought it was ok to wave his crotch in her face and tell her "say hello to Mr. Wiener"? Do you think that boy is in a healthy stable environment where he is likely to have the support to turn into a balanced member of society?

    There's no assumption here beyond that the little girls story is accurate. Its simple, its excessive to assault someone just because you feel they insulted or humiliated you- you should realise this given your € 16k example later in this thread.


    She used appropriate force to neutralise a perceived threat. It's that simple. I knew the possible consequences of my behaviour, I also knew the possible consequences of that person's threat and that they had the means to carry it out. For me the decision to neutralise the threat was worth the possible consequences.

    Once the daughter hits age of legal responsibility, actions like this have a tendency to earn a criminal record. And no it will likely not be seen as porportionate by a judge who has to weigh up the level of threat she faced. If you don't believe me then Google one of the many assault convictions in this country that are based on the same "I felt insulted " premise.


    Once the boy hits legal age of responsibility, actions like his will have a tendency to carry a criminal record too. If you don't believe me, well, I'm sure you too can google numerous cases of sexual harassment.

    No on that thread I see a story of someone who was actually assaulted and did use a proportionate level of force to defend themselves - notwithstanding the bragging element there's not a hope in hell they could be convicted for assault for what they did. Not the difference; porportionate response to the level of threat. As opposed to a ten year old receiving praise from her mum for behaving like a thug


    One punch his assailant was down and already incapacitated. The threat had been neutralised. Another two punches to "split him open" was disproportionate and acting like a thug. He received plenty of praise for his actions.

    I guess your OK with beating children who misbehave too. We differ on that....


    How the hell did you get that I'd be ok with an adult beating a child from me saying that the boy will think twice about inviting girls to say hello to his wiener while he thrusts his crotch in their face?

    Those are the kind of assumptions I'm talking about that you're making. You have no evidence to make such an assumption, and it's like you just threw that out there when it has nothing to do with anything.

    They're under ten! What so difficult to grasp here that you need to validate your argument in such a foolish and outlandish way. I repeat, they're under ten! Seriously, you've spent most of your time on this thread criticising people (not aleays fairly)for giving implausible scenarios, would you ever take your own advice


    Yes, the children are under 10, but YOUR point was questioning how far would the mother support her daughter, when you came out with these -
    tritium wrote: »
    I assume mum would have been just as proud if her daughter had jammed a pencil I'm his eye
    tritium wrote: »
    Mother is ok with gender based violence once the attacker is female and meets her criteria. I don't feel its unreasonable to question how far she's willing to push that


    How about YOU take some of your own advice and stop pushing your own foolish and outlandish assumptions?


  • #166
    Pug160
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    http://www.blogher.com/i-weep-girls

    This mother is glad her daughter clocked a boy in the balls. And there's a bunch of comments below that support it.

    I've come across girls who think its funny. I blame feminism.

    What the hell?

    Sounds like she means well but is rather naive.


  • #167
    diomed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I just think multi-quotes is wrong.


  • #168
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    diomed wrote: »
    I just think multi-quotes is wrong.

    It does make it a bit difficult to read alright.


  • #169
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    I think you might be leaving out the point that in the last few years weight lifting has also become very popular with men making us stonger.
    I accept that, most men still do not lift weights though. My point is that many moons ago the sexist view that ALL women are weaker was a more sensible presumption/prejudice. 100 years ago maybe 2% of women (ovedrall) might be stronger than the average untrained man (the majority of men), these days I would expect it to be a lot more than 2%.

    My point again is that if you think stronger people should not hit weaker ones why not say that, it gets rid of any exceptions to peoples presumptions, why bring a sexist prejudice into it. Sexism is less tolerated than when that phrase came into use, I'm surprised its not more frowned upon, by everybody.
    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    There's no way you can increase your strength significantly after only a few months of weight training, unless you're on serious steroids. It takes years to gain that sort of strength naturally, even with a good diet and a strict training regime.
    Nonsense. Go to the fitness forum and check out the training logs of people, men & women, in the first few weeks & months is where you make incredible gains in strength, after that it slow tapers off. Check any training regime for beginners many will quote expected strength gains from week to week, and its very significant. I guess you are mixing up strength with muscle growth/hypertrophy.

    Czarcasm wrote: »
    I'll try answer this post for you rubadub best I can, because I can only speak from my own perspective. My own belief that a man should never hit a woman is just that- under no circumstances should a man ever hit a woman. It's not just that men are generally physically stronger, it's just a scummy thing to do.
    I wouldn't be so blatantly sexist about it. My own belief is people should never hit other people.

    Are there any other groups you would be prejudiced about, maybe blacks shouldn't hit Asians?
    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Do unto others what?
    Don't hit people if you don't want to be hit back, simple, regardless of your sex or race.
    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Only once have I ever broken that rule, when after months of intimidation, this particular chap I worked with he made threats against my wife. He got €16k in compensation and no permanent injuries.
    what a "scummy" thing to do...


  • #170
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Ridiculous. It's a lot easier to hit someone than it is to restrain them. If I get attacked by somebody, I have a much better chance of defending myself if I strike back. Unless the person is very very small its going to be difficult to restrain them.


    It much easier to hit someone than it is to restrain them, certainly, no disagreement there, but that's when you have to fight your own natural instincts to pop 'n' drop, because if you start hitting a guy twice your size, it could end very badly for you, a lot worse than trying to restrain them. We're talking about guys being hit by girls here aren't we? Girls are generally more petite than guys, and certainly wouldn't have a guys strength.

    If you were a bouncer you're probably fairly big though, so that would give you an advantage. I wouldn't exactly be a big bloke myself.


    I'm actually not that big at all Dave, I'm a bit of a shortarse at 5ft10, bouncers will come in all shapes and sizes, and the only reason bigger guys are more common is because naturally they're more physically intimidating. The best advantage you'll ever have in a fight Dave is to keep your wits about you, but drunk people are already at a disadvantage when you're sober.


  • #171
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    its never all-right for kids to hit each other over words.


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  • #172
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    rubadub wrote: »
    I accept that, most men still do not lift weights though. My point is that many moons ago the sexist view that ALL women are weaker was a more sensible presumption/prejudice. 100 years ago maybe 2% of women (ovedrall) might be stronger than the average untrained man (the majority of men), these days I would expect it to be a lot more than 2%.


    You could expect all you like and pull statistics out of nowhere all you like and you still wouldn't be able to make such bogus claims using such exceptional circumstances.

    Nonsense. Go to the fitness forum and check out the training logs of people, men & women, in the first few weeks & months is where you make incredible gains in strength, after that it slow tapers off. Check any training regime for beginners many will quote expected strength gains from week to week, and its very significant. I guess you are mixing up strength with muscle growth/hypertrophy.


    And you're mixing up fitness training with weight training.

    I wouldn't be so blatantly sexist about it. My own belief is people should never hit other people.


    Hold on to that, it may be the only thing we agree on.

    Are there any other groups you would be prejudiced about, maybe blacks shouldn't hit Asians?


    Sorry, what? Are you a graduate of the trium school of discussion - throw a wild, irrelevant assumption out there and hope it gets legs?

    We're talking about the differences between the sexes here, not the differences between races?

    what a "scummy" thing to do...


    Yes it was, that's why I'm not proud of it and you didn't see me start a thread about it looking for validation for my scumbag behaviour either.


  • #173
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    rubadub wrote: »
    Nonsense. Go to the fitness forum and check out the training logs of people, men & women, in the first few weeks & months is where you make incredible gains in strength, after that it slow tapers off. Check any training regime for beginners many will quote expected strength gains from week to week, and its very significant. I guess you are mixing up strength with muscle growth/hypertrophy.

    I'm not saying you can't get stronger within a few months of weight training, but the way you were talking, you'd think a person can lift weights for while and have an advantage over someone who hasn't trained.

    I've been doing weight training for years, but there are always going to be people who are bigger and in better shape than me. A woman who has lifted weights for a few months is still going to be weaker than the average man

    Czarcasm wrote: »
    It much easier to hit someone than it is to restrain them, certainly, no disagreement there, but that's when you have to fight your own natural instincts to pop 'n' drop, because if you start hitting a guy twice your size, it could end very badly for you, a lot worse than trying to restrain them. We're talking about guys being hit by girls here aren't we? Girls are generally more petite than guys, and certainly wouldn't have a guys strength.

    I'm actually not that big at all Dave, I'm a bit of a shortarse at 5ft10, bouncers will come in all shapes and sizes, and the only reason bigger guys are more common is because naturally they're more physically intimidating. The best advantage you'll ever have in a fight Dave is to keep your wits about you, but drunk people are already at a disadvantage when you're sober.

    It can still be very difficult to restrain a person though regardless of their size. Throw rage and alcohol into the mix and things get even more complicated.

    Yes I agree its better to have your wits about you, and I have seen smaller guys beat the crap out of bigger guys, but only because they had good strikes. Trying to restrain a woman could end very badly for me too because some people could take that the wrong way and I'd end up trying to fend off a few people.


  • #174
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    It can still be very difficult to restrain a person though regardless of their size. Throw rage and alcohol into the mix and things get even more complicated.


    Ah yeah but we're talking just generally here Dave as every specific set of circumstances is going to have it's own set of nuances. It's difficult to restrain a person, but it's not impossible.

    Yes I agree its better to have your wits about you, and I have seen smaller guys beat the crap out of bigger guys, but only because they had good strikes.


    That was kinda what happened to me the time those young lads got my phone, I didn't have my wits about me (it was six o clock in the morning and I was tired, bastard early bird thieves :pac:), so not only did I not see the first guy coming, but I missed the second and third guy too. Individually they wouldn't punch their way through paper, but it was like one bee sting doesn't hurt, a couple of them however and you're screwed :pac:

    Trying to restrain a woman could end very badly for me too because some people could take that the wrong way and I'd end up trying to fend off a few people.


    Truth be told Dave most people will just keep walking as they won't want to get involved.


  • #175
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Truth be told Dave most people will just keep walking as they won't want to get involved.

    Yeah I'd probably be one of them. But if a woman is been man handled do you not think people would be more likely to intervene in that situation? If a woman was alone it might be better to try and restrain her alright. What happens when her friends start pulling out of you though? I think people would be less likely to get involved if a woman is seen hitting a man a few slaps.


  • #176
    ALiasEX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ALiasEX


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    We're talking about guys being hit by girls here aren't we? Girls are generally more petite than guys, and certainly wouldn't have a guys strength.
    You don't know who you are up against though. My sister is smaller than me and can beat me in an arm wrestle.


  • #177
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    No, I don't. Now, why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that the boy thought it was ok to wave his crotch in her face and tell her "say hello to Mr. Wiener"? Do you think that boy is in a healthy stable environment where he is likely to have the support to turn into a balanced member of society?

    No I'm not. If you bother to go back over my posts without trying to be out of context and selective you'll spot the following:
    ... While the boy should have received some punishment from the supervisors if he had done this ...

    That was my first comment on this thread btw, back at #85, so its not as if I've just thrown it in to be nice. My point is simple: The little girl has learned that its fine to punch someone in the testicles for, as someone put it, "trying to humiliate her". That IS disportionate. No amount of hands wringing about how messed up the boy is will change that. Its a scumbag mentality that says I'm allowed to slap someone who slights me. Since you're fond of linking to other threads to illustrate your position, its the mentality we see here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057038904
    She used appropriate force to neutralise a perceived threat. It's that simple.

    no she used disproportionate force, its that simple

    Once the boy hits legal age of responsibility, actions like his will have a tendency to carry a criminal record too. If you don't believe me, well, I'm sure you too can google numerous cases of sexual harassment.

    no disagreement there, but I believe the point of this thread was to discuss the girls actions. The simple fact is her mum is giving her some pretty bad life guidance when this is considered acceptable. It would have been far more appropriate to ensure the boy was disciplined by someone in authority. That would also have created a far better role model for her daughter around the value of authority and its power to resolve such situations.


    One punch his assailant was down and already incapacitated. The threat had been neutralised. Another two punches to "split him open" was disproportionate and acting like a thug. He received plenty of praise for his actions.

    I don't want to drag this off topic too much but you're either selectively quoting or you didn't actually read that OP properly. From that thread
    ..... as I did he turned and punched me full force into the left cheekbone.

    Now I'm not one for fighting and have hardly ever been in a fight in my life but as it happens I took up boxing a year and a half ago. So when he hit me, on reflex and to my own astonishment I immediately punched him back and then gave him two more, splitting him open and knocking him to the floor!...

    My reading is he got hit and responded with a three punch combo that put the attacker down. No follow through on a downed and incapacitated opponent. As someone who's done a fair bit of kickboxing I wouldn't say that was a particularly unusual combo to throw instinctively. As an ex bouncer would you disagree?

    How the hell did you get that I'd be ok with an adult beating a child from me saying that the boy will think twice about inviting girls to say hello to his wiener while he thrusts his crotch in their face?

    I'll take that back, it was unfair. I have an issue with the idea that violence against a child can be dismissed as "unintended consequence" but my projection of that unto your response was innappropriate


    Yes, the children are under 10, but YOUR point was questioning how far would the mother support her daughter, when you came out with these -

    The first comment was fairly clearly rhetorical, and in response to a post where You make a raft of assumptions - bit of pot/ kettle there no? The second is in response to your response asking people to avoid ridiculous scenarios. I know I'm going to sound a bit petty here but, you started it! Bit rich to then call everyone else on it.


  • #178
    Pug160
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    rubadub wrote: »
    I accept that, most men still do not lift weights though. My point is that many moons ago the sexist view that ALL women are weaker was a more sensible presumption/prejudice. 100 years ago maybe 2% of women (ovedrall) might be stronger than the average untrained man (the majority of men), these days I would expect it to be a lot more than 2%.

    My point again is that if you think stronger people should not hit weaker ones why not say that, it gets rid of any exceptions to peoples presumptions, why bring a sexist prejudice into it. Sexism is less tolerated than when that phrase came into use, I'm surprised its not more frowned upon, by everybody.

    Nonsense. Go to the fitness forum and check out the training logs of people, men & women, in the first few weeks & months is where you make incredible gains in strength, after that it slow tapers off. Check any training regime for beginners many will quote expected strength gains from week to week, and its very significant. I guess you are mixing up strength with muscle growth/hypertrophy.


    .

    Lifting weights doesn't really tell the whole story. Women are reasonably close to men when it comes to leg strength but the main difference is upper body strength. Even women who train a lot will find it hard to make up the genetic disadvantage. Exercises like squats, lunges and deadlifts are really good core exercises but even some of the women who can lift some decent weight in those exercises wouldn't necessarily be able to do, let's say, weighted dips with proper form. You also have to factor in functional strength. Weight lifting is beneficial but it's not always that useful when it comes to grappling, striking etc.

    A woman, just like a small man, has the ability to put a man on his bum if there is correct technique. Most men are way more aggressive than women though, which is a problem. Hitting a woman is generally a scummy thing to do but anyone who says there are not potential exceptions is a fantasist.


  • #179
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Yeah I'd probably be one of them. But if a woman is been man handled do you not think people would be more likely to intervene in that situation? If a woman was alone it might be better to try and restrain her alright. What happens when her friends start pulling out of you though? I think people would be less likely to get involved if a woman is seen hitting a man a few slaps.


    That'd be the right thing to do alright, but what puts people off is this myth that it's usually a boyfriend and girlfriend having a domestic and the girl will turn on whoever intervenes to defend her boyfriend.

    You're right though, even less people are likely to get involved if they see a girl giving a guy a few slaps, although more likely to gather around to watch if it's two or more girls having a scrap.

    ALiasEX wrote: »
    You don't know who you are up against though. My sister is smaller than me and can beat me in an arm wrestle.


    Yeah but that's why you need to use your judgement to assess the situation. There are exceptions such as yours of course, but generally speaking, guys are stronger and physically more powerful than girls. I mean, I could've said too that a couple of years ago when we were moving out of a shared apartment, the other tenant tried to stop us getting in to get our stuff, by standing in the doorway.

    He was 6ft4 and I figured best way to deal with the situation was to call the Gardai as I wasn't going to risk taking him down. I'd the phone to my ear when I heard a woeful crash behind me...

    My wife who's only 5ft4 was after going at him like a bull as he stood in the doorway, jammed him up against the wall and delivered a ferocious upper cut into his nose! I was as shocked as yer man was :pac:

    We got in, grabbed our stuff, and got the hell out of there sharpish before the guy regained his senses. It was a complete one off and just a lucky shot that she caught the guy off guard. Exceptional one off circumstances, certainly nothing that would contradict my earlier assertion that guys in general are stronger than girls. If that guy had his wits about him, he could've done my wife serious damage.


  • #180
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    tritium wrote: »
    No I'm not. If you bother to go back over my posts without trying to be out of context and selective you'll spot the following:



    That was my first comment on this thread btw, back at #85, so its not as if I've just thrown it in to be nice. My point is simple: The little girl has learned that its fine to punch someone in the testicles for, as someone put it, "trying to humiliate her". That IS disportionate. No amount of hands wringing about how messed up the boy is will change that. Its a scumbag mentality that says I'm allowed to slap someone who slights me. Since you're fond of linking to other threads to illustrate your position, its the mentality we see here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057038904



    no she used disproportionate force, its that simple


    Your first post on this thread was quite rightly pointing out that another poster was going off on a tangent. Then your second post was this gem, quoted in it's FULL context this time -
    tritium wrote: »
    Bullsh1t! A massively disporportionate response by the child. There is a very real possibility the little boy could have suffered serious injury. While the boy should have received some punishment from the supervisors if he had done this (and we only have the word of what appears to a slightly militant blogger on this), what the girl learned from her mum us that assault is OK once the other party is male. I assume mum would have been just as proud if her daughter had jammed a pencil I'm his eye


    Where the hell did that wild tangenital assumption come from?

    no disagreement there, but I believe the point of this thread was to discuss the girls actions. The simple fact is her mum is giving her some pretty bad life guidance when this is considered acceptable. It would have been far more appropriate to ensure the boy was disciplined by someone in authority. That would also have created a far better role model for her daughter around the value of authority and its power to resolve such situations.


    Right, so if the point of this thread was to discuss the girls actions, why are you talking about the mother being proud of her daughter jamming a pencil in the boys eye?

    I don't want to drag this off topic too much but you're either selectively quoting or you didn't actually read that OP properly. From that thread

    My reading is he got hit and responded with a three punch combo that put the attacker down. No follow through on a downed and incapacitated opponent. As someone who's done a fair bit of kickboxing I wouldn't say that was a particularly unusual combo to throw instinctively. As an ex bouncer would you disagree?


    Between myself and yourself? I think the OP made the whole thing up to get a few thanks.

    The first comment was fairly clearly rhetorical, and in response to a post where You make a raft of assumptions - bit of pot/ kettle there no? The second is in response to your response asking people to avoid ridiculous scenarios. I know I'm going to sound a bit petty here but, you started it! Bit rich to then call everyone else on it.


    Mind that pencil beam in your eye there, it wasn't me who made a raft of assumptions at all, and certainly not I who started it.


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    cupcake83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭cupcake83


    I consider myself a feminist and in no way do I find this behavior acceptable . Any feminist claiming its part of feminism is full of sh*t! Feminism is about choice and making your own decisions and having equality if you choose to take advantage of it or not! *gasp * and many of us are quite fond of men and wish them no harm. Anyone who wishes harm or advocates it on wee boys or men is not a feminist, they are a cruel mentally unhealthy person.


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