Do girls think its ok to kick boys in the nuts?

LETHAL LADY · 21-09-2013 12:23AM

I've two brothers and the amount of hair pulling, punching and generally deranged fights we had as small children was unbelievable. However, if any of us kicked or punched below the belt we were lectured accordingly by both my parents, that's not to say it was a free for all, but I've grown up understanding a cheap shot.

clairefontaine · 21-09-2013 12:25AM

languagenerd wrote: »

Presumeably by 10, they've also been taught not to put their crotch in someone's face. I don't agree with the mother telling her daughter to "keep on punching dicks" but I also don't think the girl was 100% at fault here. It was quite possibly a knee-jerk reaction.

Definitely agree that the supervision was poor.

I don't think the boy's size makes any difference here...

To answer the question in your OP: no, in general, I do not think it's ok for girls to punch guys in the nuts. In fact, I don't think random violence is ok in any shape or form - I don't think it's ok for girls to punch guys in the face either, or vice versa. Even when it's provoked, I don't think violence or fighting is justified. But what if it's your last resort in self-defence? I know we're a lot older than 10 here, but what would you do if a guy pushed his crotch in your face?

If a guy pushed his crotch in my face Id walk away. I wouldn't want to be arrested for assault. When it crosses the line into actual touch its assault, if he had his pants down,it's indecency. But he was clothed and he wasn't touching her. Additionally there were other adults around. Because her mother did not teach her these diner distinctions, she could end up in big troule, especially if he ended up sterile or with bruising or internal injuries.

Czarcasm · 21-09-2013 12:37AM

clairefontaine wrote: »

If a guy pushed his crotch in my face Id walk away. I wouldn't want to be arrested for assault. When it crosses the line into actual touch its assault, if he had his pants down,it's indecency. But he was clothed and he wasn't touching her. Additionally there were other adults around. Because her mother did not teach her these diner distinctions, she could end up in big troule, especially if he ended up sterile or with bruising or internal injuries.

And none of this would ever have happened if the boys parents had raised him to treat people with respect, that you don't go around waving your crotch in people's faces. The same supervision failed this girl too btw in failing to prevent the boy from sexually assaulting her.

See? We can all do the over-dramatics game. A punch in the nuts from a ten year old girl in a seated position is never going to be strong enough to do damage like leaving the boy sterile or with internal injuries. She'd want to have an upper cut like Popeye to do any lasting damage in fairness.

up for anything · 21-09-2013 12:58AM

clairefontaine wrote: »

http://www.blogher.com/i-weep-girls

This mother is glad her daughter clocked a boy in the balls. And there's a bunch of comments below that support it.

I've come across girls who think its funny. I blame feminism.

What the hell?

clairefontaine wrote: »

If a guy pushed his crotch in my face Id walk away. I wouldn't want to be arrested for assault. When it crosses the line into actual touch its assault, if he had his pants down,it's indecency. But he was clothed and he wasn't touching her. Additionally there were other adults around. Because her mother did not teach her these diner distinctions, she could end up in big troule, especially if he ended up sterile or with bruising or internal injuries.

For once I haven't read every post before replying because I'm torn between laughter and disbelief. :rolleyes::D

I think you must all be very young and politically correct. When I was young I was taught never to hit and to be ladylike. I was never taught about bad touches or dicey situations. I must have learned by osmosis from the tv and books. I was eleven and backed up against a wall by a lad a year or two older than me who had literally stalked my every movement for six months because he fancied me - I didn't reciprocate, was shit scared to leave the house because he'd be there (with his two friends) and I knew very little about the mechanics of fancying someone. He'd trapped me against the wall with his arms to either side of me and my first and only instinct was to knee him in the balls and run. I wasn't even sure what they were but I knew it would hurt. He stopped fancying me after that, he stopped stalking me and never came after me again.

The next time I resorted to that tactic was when I was 18 and my boyfriend's best friend gave us a lift to the pub. The friend had two children and the child locks were engaged on the back doors. He came round to open the door for me and under the pretext of helping me out copped a quick feel of my boobs. I dropped him to the road with a knee to the balls and felt well within my rights to have done so. He never forgave me and did his level best to ruin my relationship with his best friend for the next twenty odd years. Apparently, I mistook what happened! I never regretted it though. He deserved it.

It's pretty difficult for a small (in height) girl to take on a lad and the only sure way to stop something is a swift disabling action.

As for the little girl in the article I'm sure when presented with some little bratty boy waggling his Mr Weiner in her face she just reacted with a punch and as she was sitting down her arm was on a level with Mr Weiner and he got it. If I were her mother I would be unrepentant on her behalf too.

"Well, I was sitting over there," she pointed at one of the long tables, "drawing, and he came over to me and put his hips in my face and wiggled them," she demonstrated, "and said to me, 'TALK TO MR. WIENER!!!' So I punched him."

Much ado about nothing. :rolleyes:

clairefontaine · 21-09-2013 12:59AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

And none of this would ever have happened if the boys parents had raised him to treat people with respect, that you don't go around waving your crotch in people's faces. The same supervision failed this girl too btw in failing to prevent the boy from sexually assaulting her.

See? We can all do the over-dramatics game. A punch in the nuts from a ten year old girl in a seated position is never going to be strong enough to do damage like leaving the boy sterile or with internal injuries. She'd want to have an upper cut like Popeye to do any lasting damage in fairness.

Ok, but one day she will be bigger, a woman, and all her life she will have had a mother proud of her for punching boys in the balls, even though it was not in self defence. So one day she could do damage and she will feel riteos about it.

hatrickpatrick · 21-09-2013 01:30AM

There are plenty of people who believe gender based rules are somehow acceptable. To be honest I've always abhorred the term "violence against women" - surely violence against a person doesn't become a more or less despicable or serious problem depending purely on the gender of the victim?
The fact that it may or may not happen more on one group or another is irrelevant in my view; the law and the establishment should not elaborate any law beyond "person", except when dealing with minors vs adults.

MonaPizza · 21-09-2013 01:42AM

clairefontaine wrote: »

http://www.blogher.com/i-weep-girls

This mother is glad her daughter clocked a boy in the balls. And there's a bunch of comments below that support it.

I've come across girls who think its funny. I blame feminism.

What the hell?

It's never funny to kick a male in the testicles. The young girl probably got a sense of empowerment and probably felt bad for hurting someone. The mother to sanction this however is warped.

clairefontaine · 21-09-2013 01:42AM

up for anything wrote: »

For once I haven't read every post before replying because I'm torn between laughter and disbelief. :rolleyes::D

I think you must all be very young and politically correct. When I was young I was taught never to hit and to be ladylike. I was never taught about bad touches or dicey situations. I must have learned by osmosis from the tv and books. I was eleven and backed up against a wall by a lad a year or two older than me who had literally stalked my every movement for six months because he fancied me - I didn't reciprocate, was shit scared to leave the house because he'd be there (with his two friends) and I knew very little about the mechanics of fancying someone. He'd trapped me against the wall with his arms to either side of me and my first and only instinct was to knee him in the balls and run. I wasn't even sure what they were but I knew it would hurt. He stopped fancying me after that, he stopped stalking me and never came after me again.

The next time I resorted to that tactic was when I was 18 and my boyfriend's best friend gave us a lift to the pub. The friend had two children and the child locks were engaged on the back doors. He came round to open the door for me and under the pretext of helping me out copped a quick feel of my boobs. I dropped him to the road with a knee to the balls and felt well within my rights to have done so. He never forgave me and did his level best to ruin my relationship with his best friend for the next twenty odd years. Apparently, I mistook what happened! I never regretted it though. He deserved it.

It's pretty difficult for a small (in height) girl to take on a lad and the only sure way to stop something is a swift disabling action.

As for the little girl in the article I'm sure when presented with some little bratty boy waggling his Mr Weiner in her face she just reacted with a punch and as she was sitting down her arm was on a level with Mr Weiner and he got it. If I were her mother I would be unrepentant on her behalf too.

Much ado about nothing. :rolleyes:

So, and this question is open to anyone who feels this action is justified, if your son were sitting at a desk and some girl came over and wiggled her tits. Wthout touching and fully clothed iin his face you'd be proud of him if he punched or hurt her tits? Or at minimum think it was an appropriate reaction?

pharmaton · 21-09-2013 01:56AM

if some fella shoved his cock in my face and told me to talk to it I'd probably punch him in the nuts too, or bite it off. Thats feminizim fer ya.
*burns bra.. runs away*

Galwayguy35 · 21-09-2013 05:09AM

pharmaton wrote: »

if some fella shoved his cock in my face and told me to talk to it I'd probably punch him in the nuts too, or bite it off. Thats feminizim fer ya.
*burns bra.. runs away*

Ok.

I take it you would be of the same opinion if a woman shoved her vag in a mans face.

Would it be ok for him to give her a wallop to the box?

jill_valentine · 21-09-2013 05:31AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ok.

I take it you would be of the same opinion if a woman shoved her vag in a mans face.

Would it be ok for him to give her a wallop to the box?

"Okay" may be the wrong word, btw, I wouldn't blame him for it.

Although for the record, a boob punch would probably be more proportionate in that case.

GalwayGuy2 · 21-09-2013 07:54AM

It's a bit of a non story tbh. A child acted like a child, and another child acted like a child.

I honestly don't believe there was anything sexual going on in the ten year old boys head, or any malice in the ten year old girls head.

BUT, it would be quite interesting to study the reaction that young children being aggressive to the opposite gender has.

Howard Juneau · 21-09-2013 07:56AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ok.

I take it you would be of the same opinion if a woman shoved her vag in a mans face.

Would it be ok for him to give her a wallop to the box?

Cnut punt all the way baby!

wexie · 21-09-2013 08:00AM

KKkitty wrote: »

I knew someone who was kicked in the balls and lost one as a result. It's a horrible thing to do to any male and if you do it to anyone you deserve a good punch in the face.

I know quite a few rape victims, it's a horrible thing to do to and if you do it to anyone you deserve several kicks in the nuts, with steeltoed boots.

(just to add some perspective)

King Hearts · 21-09-2013 08:28AM

wexie wrote: »

I know quite a few rape victims, it's a horrible thing to do to and if you do it to anyone you deserve several kicks in the nuts, with steeltoed boots.

(just to add some perspective)

That's really not relevant. Rapists deserve a lot of things.

Czarcasm · 21-09-2013 08:36AM

clairefontaine wrote: »

Ok, but one day she will be bigger, a woman, and all her life she will have had a mother proud of her for punching boys in the balls, even though it was not in self defence. So one day she could do damage and she will feel riteos about it.

The mother is an idiot (seriously, read some of her other righteous musings), but it WAS in self defence this time, and the girl knows it's not ok to go around punching or kicking guys in the nuts. Is it an appropriate action when she feels threatened? Absolutely. It was an instinctive reaction in this case though. I don't see why you're missing the point that it wasn't ok for the boy to go about waving his crotch in her face.

The same way you say the girl will escalate to punching every guy in the nuts, the boy could easily have grown up thinking it's ok to wave his wiener in every girls face if he hadn't been fought back against.

clairefontaine wrote: »

So, and this question is open to anyone who feels this action is justified, if your son were sitting at a desk and some girl came over and wiggled her tits. Wthout touching and fully clothed iin his face you'd be proud of him if he punched or hurt her tits? Or at minimum think it was an appropriate reaction?

Nope, I wouldn't, I'd be disgusted with him because that's not the way he was brought up. I'd equally be disgusted with him if he waved his crotch in a girls face, because again, that's not the way he was brought up. I understand too that he has his own mind, and can go against what he was taught, so if he DID wave his crotch in a girls face, a punch in the nuts would be the least of his worries tbh.

Howard Juneau · 21-09-2013 08:53AM

After reading some of this bloggers other offerings....I think I see where her daughter gets her violent outbursts from

GalwayGuy2 · 21-09-2013 08:54AM

Czarchams, you're seeing things through the lens of abhorrent acts like rape, and others are seeing things through the lens of assault.

Don't get me wrong, he should have been told that what he did was rude to do to another person, but he was a ten year old child who waved a random body part and called it a name he found funny. The young girl reacted in anger and punched him, as most ten year- lods do when annoyed.

It would not surprise me if he said "Mr. Weiner" to plenty of the boys as well.

wexie · 21-09-2013 08:56AM

King Hearts wrote: »

That's really not relevant. Rapists deserve a lot of things.

Of course it's relevant, are you saying that a girl that's being assaulted wouldn't be justified kicking someone in the nuts?

Just to clarify (again) I don't think what happened in the article was sexual assault, nor did it justify a punch in the balls.

Very poor behaviour on both accounts but without a clarification of the ages involved it's hard to know whether or not this constitutes sexual assault. All I see in the article is references to playschool which to me indicates young kids. I don't know where the ten years old came from, I certainly don't see it in the article and quite frankly I don't really want to go trawling through more of this women's blog to find out.

All I see in this article is a little boy that needs to be taught it's not acceptable behaviour to wave your crotch in someones face and a girl that needs to be taught that punching someone in the balls can have very severe consequences. Unfortunately it would seem that the mother is not the one to teach her.

Czarcasm · 21-09-2013 09:21AM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Czarchams, you're seeing things through the lens of abhorrent acts like rape, and others are seeing things through the lens of assault.

Don't get me wrong, he should have been told that what he did was rude to do to another person, but he was a ten year old child who waved a random body part and called it a name he found funny. The young girl reacted in anger and punched him, as most ten year- lods do when annoyed.

Ah now GG, you're at the same as Claire-

"The innocent little boy sure he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, he was only waving a random body part in her face and thought it was funny to call his random body part a wiener. The girl is an aggressive child who was in the wrong to punch him in the testicles, because she knew what she was doing would cause him to be sterile or rupture a blood vessel".

The boy knew what he was doing, and the girl knew that what he was doing was wrong and made her feel uncomfortable. He was showing off, she showed him that she wouldn't stand for his behaviour.

It would not surprise me if he said "Mr. Weiner" to plenty of the boys as well.

I wonder did he go about waving his wiener in the boys faces too saying "say hello to Mr. Wiener"? I doubt it.

tritium · 21-09-2013 09:34AM

wexie wrote: »

I know quite a few rape victims, it's a horrible thing to do to and if you do it to anyone you deserve several kicks in the nuts, with steeltoed boots.

(just to add some perspective)

No, that's not adding perspective, that's going on a wild tangent to try to defend the indefensible

Or roughly equivalent in method to victim blaming

wexie · 21-09-2013 09:38AM

tritium wrote: »

No, that's not adding perspective, that's going on a wild tangent to try to defend the indefensible

Or roughly equivalent in method to victim blaming

Nonsense, it's not a wild tangent at all, simply stating that someone was kicked in the nuts and ended up loosing one, WITHOUT stating what he did to deserve it leaves it wide open for interpretation.

tritium · 21-09-2013 09:39AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Ah now GG, you're at the same as Claire-

"The innocent little boy sure he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, he was only waving a random body part in her face and thought it was funny to call his random body part a wiener. The girl is an aggressive child who was in the wrong to punch him in the testicles, because she knew what she was doing would cause him to be sterile or rupture a blood vessel".

The boy knew what he was doing, and the girl knew that what he was doing was wrong and made her feel uncomfortable. He was showing off, she showed him that she wouldn't stand for his behaviour.

.

Bullsh1t! A massively disporportionate response by the child. There is a very real possibility the little boy could have suffered serious injury. While the boy should have received some punishment from the supervisors if he had done this (and we only have the word of what appears to a slightly militant blogger on this), what the girl learned from her mum us that assault is OK once the other party is male. I assume mum would have been just as proud if her daughter had jammed a pencil I'm his eye

Howard Juneau · 21-09-2013 09:47AM

wexie wrote: »

Nonsense, it's not a wild tangent at all, simply stating that someone was kicked in the nuts and ended up loosing one, WITHOUT stating what he did to deserve it leaves it wide open for interpretation.

And your interpretation is that he's a rapist? cool story bro

tritium · 21-09-2013 09:51AM

wexie wrote: »

Nonsense, it's not a wild tangent at all, simply stating that someone was kicked in the nuts and ended up loosing one, WITHOUT stating what he did to deserve it leaves it wide open for interpretation.

Victim blame much?

wexie · 21-09-2013 09:53AM

Howard Juneau wrote: »

And your interpretation is that he's a rapist? cool story bro

Where did you get that from?

All I'm saying is that I think there are situations where a kick in the balls can easily be justified.

GalwayGuy2 · 21-09-2013 09:53AM

"The innocent little boy sure he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, he was only waving a random body part in her face and thought it was funny to call his random body part a wiener. The girl is an aggressive child who was in the wrong to punch him in the testicles, because she knew what she was doing would cause him to be sterile or rupture a blood vessel".

Actually, I said the girl wasn't really to blame either. I think they both should have been told off a little, but likening it to assualt or be assualted is ridiculous. The last bit was aimed at a potential scenario.

I wonder did he go about waving his wiener in the boys faces too saying "say hello to Mr. Wiener"? I doubt it.

There's a good chance he did. Children don't really have boundaries and don't conceive such thoughts as "That's a little homo/hetero."

He was showing off, she showed him that she wouldn't stand for his behaviour.

I find this rather worrying. If a girl was showing off by following and hugging a boy, is that young man's appropriate response to punch her in the genital?

wexie · 21-09-2013 09:53AM

tritium wrote: »

Victim blame much?

You don't read and understand well do you?

Howard Juneau · 21-09-2013 09:56AM

wexie wrote: »

You don't read and understand well do you?

Pot kettle

strobe · 21-09-2013 09:58AM

wexie wrote: »

So yes while I dread to think of a situation arising that would call for it I will absolutely teach them the quick way of putting someone on the ground for a few minutes if the situation calls for it.

You might want to rethink that lesson... Unless your daughters happen to be in a particularly corny Hollywood movie at the time, chances are they aren't gonna land the perfect 1 in a 100 shot that might, but more than likely won't, result in the big bad man collapsing on the spot incapacitated, and they will just have a very angry but perfectly vertical man to deal with.

You're just giving them false security that they have some special defense mechanism... which more than likely won't have the desired effect.

Do girls think its ok to kick boys in the nuts?

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