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Do girls think its ok to kick boys in the nuts?

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  • #32
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Moderate feminism is a cancer eh? Well then you must think men's rights activism is a cancer.
    At least it has some credence to it. Not saying feminism is completely groundless, but most of the things mainstream feminism is focusing on is bs, e.g pay gap myth, lack of women in government (and in jobs that are considered dangerous funnily enough) etc
    .


  • #33
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Ihatecuddles wrote: »
    A kick in the fanny is no laughing matter either!!

    I wouldnt find that funny, I cross my legs when I see someone getting hit in the nuts and I dont even have a pair of balls.

    indeed, but it's harder to get a kick in the fanny - unless you walk the "tightrope" on a gate like I did when I was a child. OWW!


  • #34
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Clandestine wrote: »
    At least it has some credence to it.
    It absolutely does. Fathers' lack of rights, domestic abuse of men, men's health concerns, the way ads and TV/film are open season on ridiculing men, slapping of men by women being no big deal, sexual assault of men by women being no big deal, etc.
    Not saying feminism is completely groundless, but most of the things mainstream feminism is focusing on is bs, e.g pay gap myth, lack of women in government (and in jobs that are considered dangerous funnily enough) etc
    Yeh the pay gap is due to women working part-time, going on maternity leave so it's a fallacy. What I personally view of concern is stuff like the disturbing "She asks to be raped" stuff.


  • #35
    Lenmeister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Muise... wrote: »
    indeed, but it's harder to get a kick in the fanny - unless you walk the "tightrope" on a gate like I did when I was a child. OWW!
    Ouch! Hope you didn't have any problems after that one!


  • #36
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    Ouch! Hope you didn't have any problems after that one!

    No, but I can balance really well now. :D


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  • #37
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Are we all ignoring the actual contents of the article? Apparently, the boy shoved his crotch in a girl's face and she punched him to get him away. Punched, not kicked. TBH I think that's a fair shot. Obviously, the girl may have been lying. But if it happened as she said, then the boy has learned not to put his crotch in girls' faces.


  • #38
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    It can also get them into trouble just as quick. Do you think it's ok for boys to kick girls in their vag if say your daughter said "say hello to my vag"? I bet you don't.

    Let's not blow it out of proportion, it's an overreaction to teasing. They're only kids. These things happen, live and learn. Hopefully he doesn't hate girls now :P
    Did you read any of the comments? Some people are sure he's going to grow up into a rapist :confused::eek:


  • #39
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    The boy waved his crotch into her face - that's equally as bad as her punching him in the gooleys.
    I hope he learned his lesson about keeping his privates to himself and that she got punished for lashing out instead of telling a teacher.


  • #40
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    The boy waved his crotch into her face - that's equally as bad as her punching him in the gooleys.
    He didn't physically hurt her though. What he did was awful, what she did in retaliation was awful.


  • #41
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    He didn't physically hurt her though. What he did was awful, what she did in retaliation was awful.

    Yeah, that's basically what I already said. If you read more than that line you might have seen that.


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  • #42
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    I wouldn't agree violent and non violent are equally as bad though.


  • #43
    Savoir.Faire
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    Getting a boot into the love spuds is never pleasant. But it isn't half as bad as pulling up your fly with unusual haste as you're keen to get back to your pint, only to get the tip of your turtle neck caught in it.

    Agony.


  • #44
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    languagenerd wrote: »
    Are we all ignoring the actual contents of the article? Apparently, the boy shoved his crotch in a girl's face and she punched him to get him away. Punched, not kicked. TBH I think that's a fair shot. Obviously, the girl may have been lying. But if it happened as she said, then the boy has learned not to put his crotch in girls' faces.

    Well apparently the facts of life are this. The facts are what he did was rude. The other fact is what she did is sexual assault and can cause physical injury and sterility. So if you are going to tell your little girls to kick and punch boys in the balls over personal sleights, be prepared for a lawsuit and possibly a visit to a juvenile detention centre.


  • #45
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Savoir.Faire wrote: »
    Getting a boot into the love spuds is never pleasant. But it isn't half as bad as pulling up your fly with unusual haste as you're keen to get back to your pint, only to get the tip of your turtle neck caught in it.

    Agony.

    :eek:

    This makes me grateful for the protective flange-cushion.


  • #46
    nicowa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nicowa


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    Well apparently the facts of life are this. The facts are what he did was rude. The other fact is what she did is sexual assault and can cause physical injury and sterility. So if you are going to tell your little girls to kick and punch boys in the balls over personal sleights, be prepared for a lawsuit and possibly a visit to a juvenile detention centre.

    What he did is sexual assault too. Shoving your privates in someone's face is sexually assault. Whether you're wearing clothes or not.

    It's not defined as a "personal sleight" by my standards. Nor probably the standards of a hr officer (if we were to change the context a little).


  • #47
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    Well apparently the facts of life are this. The facts are what he did was rude. The other fact is what she did is sexual assault and can cause physical injury and sterility. So if you are going to tell your little girls to kick and punch boys in the balls over personal sleights, be prepared for a lawsuit and possibly a visit to a juvenile detention centre.

    Hang on, I'm not saying that we should teach girls to punch boys in the balls. I merely said that we were overlooking some key parts of the story: some of the posts made it sound like the girl was just kicking boys at random. Young kids don't understand how to get out of these situations; he had his crotch in her face and she lashed out to push him back.

    No, I don't think it's okay to go around punching or kicking anyone (in the genitals or anywhere else for that matter!). The woman needs to teach her daughter that violence should only be a last resort if you've no other way of getting someone acting inappropriately to back off.


  • #48
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    wexie wrote: »
    While I'm not sure the situation described in the article quite warrants the reaction (no ages mentioned) I will teach both of my daughters (when the time comes)that a swift kick in the goolies can get them out of trouble quickly.
    In what situations? It's very extreme.
    ComputerKing wrote: »
    I agree I think its disgraceful that some women think that is acceptable and funny yo kick guys in the balls and also the way in which they think it is acceptable to hit men aswell but not the other way around.
    Not just women think it's acceptable and funny.


  • #49
    Menas
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    Can we talk about something else....?

    Crosses legs.


  • #50
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    It genuinely angers me when women and young children fail to acknowledge how painful getting hit in the balls is.


  • #51
    wexie
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    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    In what situations?

    Situations serious enough to warrant potentially causing serious harm.

    Let's face it, a lot of men/boys could physically overpower a lot of women/girls. And a lot of men/boys seem to have serious issues figuring out boundaries.

    So yes while I dread to think of a situation arising that would call for it I will absolutely teach them the quick way of putting someone on the ground for a few minutes if the situation calls for it.

    You're not actually implying there are no situations where this could ever be justified are you?


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  • #52
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    nicowa wrote: »
    What he did is sexual assault too. Shoving your privates in someone's face is sexually assault. Whether you're wearing clothes or not.

    It's not defined as a "personal sleight" by my standards. Nor probably the standards of a hr officer (if we were to change the context a little).

    It's sexual harassment, not assault.

    It won't cause sterility or fevers either.


  • #53
    Czarcasm
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    wexie wrote: »
    Situations serious enough to warrant potentially causing serious harm.

    Let's face it, a lot of men/boys could physically overpower a lot of women/girls. And a lot of men/boys seem to have serious issues figuring out boundaries.

    So yes while I dread to think of a situation arising that would call for it I will absolutely teach them the quick way of putting someone on the ground for a few minutes if the situation calls for it.

    You're not actually implying there are no situations where this could ever be justified are you?


    Ninety nine times out of one hundred wexie, your girls aren't going to hit the sweet spot, you're better off to go for a kick straight to the kneecap. It won't put him down, but it'll be far more painful than a failed kick to the nuts, giving your girls enough time to follow up with a shellac into the eyeball.

    A kick in the nuts while it certainly qualifies as physical assault, to call it sexual assault is just ridiculous, because the motivation isn't sexual in the same way a guy drops the hand on a girl without her consent.

    What kind of a scumbag do you have to be to punch a girl in the head or "right to the babymaker" as another poster put it?

    I've been slapped, punched and kicked by plenty of girls in my time and while it's certainly crossed my mind that I could knock them out with a punch, I wouldn't do it, because I'm physically bigger and stronger than they are and I'm aware of the potential damage I could do.

    You can restrain a person without having to injure them.

    As for the story in the OP, the mother comes off as one of these "righteous supermoms" (I took a quick skim of her bio and some of her other blog posts), and I don't agree with her encouraging her child to "punch dick" all she wants. I agree with what the child did in retaliation in this case though, the boy should never have waved his crotch in her face in the first place. He deserved to be let know that shìt doesn't fly, and it's not cool.


  • #54
    clairefontaine
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    languagenerd wrote: »
    Hang on, I'm not saying that we should teach girls to punch boys in the balls. I merely said that we were overlooking some key parts of the story: some of the posts made it sound like the girl was just kicking boys at random. Young kids don't understand how to get out of these situations; he had his crotch in her face and she lashed out to push him back.

    No, I don't think it's okay to go around punching or kicking anyone (in the genitals or anywhere else for that matter!). The woman needs to teach her daughter that violence should only be a last resort if you've no other way of getting someone acting inappropriately to back off.

    You know by the time they are ten they've been having the anything covered by a bathing suit is a no go no touch area, have been taught not to hit back, to tell the teacher, etc.

    Obviously there was poor supervision if she felt she could not get up and tell someone rather than assaulting him.

    Plus, why do people assume the boy was bigger?


  • #55
    osarusan
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    To call a kick/punch to the balls 'sexual assault' is nonsense, in virtually every context.


  • #56
    clairefontaine
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    osarusan wrote: »
    To call a kick/punch to the balls 'sexual assault' is nonsense, in virtually every context.

    It's because its violence directed at a sexual area of the body.

    That's the legal definition. You hit breasts or genitals, heck if you touch them and its unwanted touch, its legally sexual assault.


  • #57
    osarusan
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    clairefontaine wrote: »
    That's the legal definition. You hit breasts or genitals, heck if you touch them and its unwanted touch, its legally sexual assault.
    When I was an amateur boxer, I was punched in the balls on a number of occasions. Some of them were blatantly deliberate.

    Was this sexual assault? Was I sexually assaulted in the ring by a guy wearing boxing gloves?


  • #58
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    osarusan wrote: »
    When I was an amateur boxer, I was punched in the balls on a number of occasions. Some of them were blatantly deliberate.

    Was this sexual assault? Was I sexually assaulted in the ring by a guy wearing boxing gloves?

    Legally, yes you were. And it's also against boxing regulations. I'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "below the belt."

    Obviously you were in a sport in which you consent to get punched, so for some reason that be leaguers me is exempt from normal assault regulation, punching in the genitals is a no no.


  • #59
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    You know by the time they are ten they've been having the anything covered by a bathing suit is a no go no touch area, have been taught not to hit back, to tell the teacher, etc.

    Obviously there was poor supervision if she felt she could not get up and tell someone rather than assaulting him.

    Plus, why do people assume the boy was bigger?

    Presumeably by 10, they've also been taught not to put their crotch in someone's face. I don't agree with the mother telling her daughter to "keep on punching dicks" but I also don't think the girl was 100% at fault here. It was quite possibly a knee-jerk reaction.

    Definitely agree that the supervision was poor.

    I don't think the boy's size makes any difference here...

    To answer the question in your OP: no, in general, I do not think it's ok for girls to punch guys in the nuts. In fact, I don't think random violence is ok in any shape or form - I don't think it's ok for girls to punch guys in the face either, or vice versa. Even when it's provoked, I don't think violence or fighting is justified. But what if it's your last resort in self-defence? I know we're a lot older than 10 here, but what would you do if a guy pushed his crotch in your face?


  • #60
    KKkitty
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    I knew someone who was kicked in the balls and lost one as a result. It's a horrible thing to do to any male and if you do it to anyone you deserve a good punch in the face.


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  • #61
    Czarcasm
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    clairefontaine wrote: »
    It's because its violence directed at a sexual area of the body.

    That's the legal definition. You hit breasts or genitals, heck if you touch them and its unwanted touch, its legally sexual assault.


    Not in Ireland it isn't Claire. It's left up to the DPP to consider whether physical assault could also be considered sexual assault, depending on how flexible they want to be with the word "indecent" pertaining to the circumstances of the case.


    2.—(1) The offence of indecent assault upon any male person and the offence of indecent assault upon any female person shall be known as sexual assault.

    (2) A person guilty of sexual assault shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years.

    (3) Sexual assault shall be a felony


    Source: Criminal Law (Rape) (Amendment) Act 1990


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