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Geek social fallacies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Geek Social Fallacy #6 or #5b: Friends Like All the Same Things.

    http://faerye.net/post/geek-social-fallacy-addendum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭pajor


    'Good idea, you can speak nerd to them!'

    'I'm not a nerd Bart! Nerds are smart.' :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭conorhal


    MadsL wrote: »
    Thank you. I admit this a bit deeper than the average AH thread. Let me break it down a little bit.

    Proposition 1.
    We should include everyone in our social groupings.

    Proposition 2.
    If you are my friend you accept everything about me, otherwise you are not my friend.

    Proposition 3.
    Friendship is the most important thing in the world.

    Proposition 4.
    My friends should be friends with each other.

    Proposition 5.
    We should always include everyone in our social circle in our activies.
    [Unless it is boys/girls night.]


    Which ones do you agree with?

    None of them to be honest.

    Prop1
    Why would I include everybody in my social grouping even if I have nothing in common with them? Typically friends and social circles are sort of dependent on a degree of comonality, it's generally how they're formed.
    Prop2
    I don't expect friends to accept everything about me, that's stupid. I have friends that are both right on lefties and rabid righties, there are things we share in common but others we disagree on, I don't expect friends to be utterly unquestioning or unconditionally supportive of everything I do. All that means is that you have friends unlikely to call you on it if do something stupid
    Prop3
    Friendship is important. Sometimes you have to place other priorities first though, that's life. It has a habit if getting in the way from time to time.
    Prop4
    Friends should always be together? Sometimes as with all loves, absense makes the heart grow fonder. I'm part of a circle of friends, not a cult....
    Prop5
    This I guess comes back to the diversity of the friends I might have, not all are immediately likely to get along just because they have me in common. Besides, I sort of like having a couple of different groups of friends and most people do have seperate groups of friends, your 'work friends', your 'school buddies' and your 'hobby mates'. I often find that when all invited to the same party they tend to end up huddled in their own litle subgroupings anyhow.

    The article itself is more cliche ridden then an episode of the Big Bang Theory, it doesn't even seem to know what a 'geek' is. I'd say much of those falacies are more applicable to goths and emo's then geeks, who may be perfectly normal average people with an interest in some specific hobby about which they happen to be a bit 'geeky'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    My own parents were shunned in a similar way when my mother got pregnant before marriage with my other sibling. A christian community - but similar practice. Native American clowns use feast days as well to issue punishments as a way of enforcing the cultutal norm; I also have been told of Tribal meth users being shamed in this way and coming off meth

    Doesn't every society have some form of shunning as a punishment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭TheBegotten


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    Doesn't every society have some form of shunning as a punishment?
    Prison and the like...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Prison and the like...

    It is interesting how severe lack of social contact is viewed as a punishment. Solitary confinement for instance, or in the case of Balinese societies Kasepekang is seen as being like a social and spiritual death sentence.


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