Manchester criminal and girlfriend carry out unprovoked attack in West Cork

anncoates · 13-09-2013 01:23PM

I thought it was a man and woman?

The picture is of two men.

Jimoslimos · 13-09-2013 01:30PM

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ex-boxer-told-fiancee-to-beat-up-waitress-over-disrespect-242967.html

“I’m not trying to justify what happened, but this waitress, from day one, was always very rude. It’s my friend’s restaurant and I like to give him the business. She plainly ignored me for about five minutes. The place was empty. I was very angry.”

Sounds like he's trying to justify it

Gummy Panda · 13-09-2013 01:56PM

FTA69 wrote: »

If brutally beating a young woman isn't a serious offence then what is for the love of God?

Terrorism

anto9 · 13-09-2013 02:11PM

>>Whatever about not stopping those with a criminal past coming into the country a deportation order should be part and parcel of any sentence handed down to a non Irish citizen for a violent crime. <<

em ,just how would you apply that ,with no passport required to travel between the UK and Ireland .
There are far worse scum in Ireland like our Bankers and Politicians .

anncoates · 13-09-2013 02:12PM

Their names are Billy Isaac and Siobhan Ginty.

It's like somebody sat down and dreamt up the two lead characters in a gritty TV drama about pikeys and the underworld.

vicwatson · 13-09-2013 02:13PM

Scum of the earth.

Society would be a far better place without the likes of these two toerags

old hippy · 13-09-2013 02:21PM

anncoates wrote: »

Their names are Billy Isaac and Siobhan Ginty.

It's like somebody sat down and dreamt up the two lead characters in a gritty TV drama about pikeys and the underworld.

Yes, it's frightfully common, isn't it? I thank my lucky stars mater and pater didn't bestow some base appellation upon me.

Specialun · 13-09-2013 02:21PM

I am nearly more surprised that a character ref by the likes of rickie hatten means anything

old hippy · 13-09-2013 02:23PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Scum of the earth.

Society would be a far better place without the likes of these two toerags

Crikey! You sound exactly like a gangster :eek:

Days 298 · 13-09-2013 02:27PM

5 months isn't enough for that! 5 years more like. Shit deterrent to future scum.

Wossack · 13-09-2013 02:27PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ex-boxer-told-fiancee-to-beat-up-waitress-over-disrespect-242967.html

Sounds like he's trying to justify it

its his friends restaurant - and yet this is the action he takes? you know, instead of just talking to his friend... the mind boggles

Birneybau · 13-09-2013 02:30PM

In saying his friend owns the place, I bet the guy who owns the restaurant has had the friendship forced on him.

13-09-2013 02:31PM

tritium wrote: »

I don't get it, she committed the assault but he gets the longer sentence.....

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Seems that way initially but the guy pushed her to do it, directed her as she was doing it and barred the door to stop people intervening.

AND he punched a waiter:

Isaac, who is about 6ft 4in (1.9m) tall, blocked Ms Kopecka’s escape by standing in the door and kept on urging his girlfriend to hit Ms Kopecka with the assault culminating in the kitchen where he told Ginty to “Finish her off, do it properly this time”.

Isaac, who has three convictions for assault, one for possession of ammunition and one for harassment, all in the UK, said he fully accept responsibility for the assault and deeply regretted what had happened to Ms Kopecka and Mr Zilliox whom he punched once.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/ex-boxer-sentenced-for-assault-on-waitress-in-cork-restaurant-1.1525413

tritium wrote: »

That said they both deserve a few years rather than a few months for that piece of thuggery

A former heavyweight professional boxer has been sentenced for five months [and] also pleaded guilty to engaging in threatening and abusive behaviour for which he was given a two month concurrent sentence. He was later released on bail pending an appeal.

Siobhan Ginty was jailed for four months by Judge James McNulty after she pleaded guilty to assaulting Ms Kopecka while she was similarly given a two month concurrent sentence for engaging in threatening and abusive behaviour on the same day. She was later released on bail pending an appeal.

If there's one word in the English language I really despise it's "concurrent". :mad:

vicwatson · 13-09-2013 02:33PM

old hippy wrote: »

Crikey! You sound exactly like a gangster :eek:

You sound like a person that founded the Civil Liberties Group and has no respect for the victim in this case

FTA69 · 13-09-2013 02:39PM

The pair of them will be out after two months. Absolutely sickening. Why do the courts in this country have such a tolerant attitude to violent crime? Do they have any idea the impact it has on the victim? These two arseholes should be deported straight after their sentences.

old hippy · 13-09-2013 02:39PM

vicwatson wrote: »

You sound like a person that founded the Civil Liberties Group and has no respect for the victim in this case

I have the utmost respect for the victim, guv.

Irish Guitarist · 13-09-2013 02:40PM

The most ridiculous part of the story is that he was acquitted of threatening to kill an English businessman because Ricky Hatton gave him a character reference. It doesn't seem to matter that he had been convicted of numerous violent offences, as long as someone mildly famous was vouching for him.

druss · 13-09-2013 02:40PM

Specialun wrote: »

I am nearly more surprised that a character ref by the likes of rickie hatten means anything

The celebrity sporting reference is a dishonourable tradition in Ireland too.

old hippy · 13-09-2013 02:41PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The most ridiculous part of the story is that he was acquitted of threatening to kill an English businessman because Ricky Hatton gave him a character reference. It doesn't seem to matter that he had been convicted of numerous violent offences, as long as someone mildly famous was vouching for him.

Gangsters and celebs. It's a pairing as old as time.

Earthwalker · 13-09-2013 02:42PM

tritium wrote: »

I don't get it, she committed the assault but he gets the longer sentence.....

Yeah, but he was in possession of a penis

That said they both deserve a few years rather than a few months for that piece of thuggery

Ah now here, it's not like they didn't pay their court fines or something.

EyeSight · 13-09-2013 02:42PM

i find it odd he got a month more than the girl who actually punched the waitress. Surely she should have gotten more....

Festy · 13-09-2013 02:43PM

Rhys Essien wrote: »

These ba$tards should be sent home.They were not happy to be left live here to be doing this $hit.If we had the American and Australian system,they would not be here in the first place but I suppose on the flipside,do the women of Amsterdam or wherever know that Larry Murphy is walking the streets there.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/bully-boy-boxer-and-girlfriend-jailed-over-attack-on-waitress-who-disrespected-him-29575851.html

Which one is the bloke ? :pac:

anncoates · 13-09-2013 02:47PM

old hippy wrote: »

Yes, it's frightfully common, isn't it? I thank my lucky stars mater and pater didn't bestow some base appellation upon me.

You're just sticking up for them in case he sets Siobhan on you. :pac:

Irish Guitarist · 13-09-2013 02:58PM

Personally I think that woman was better off with her previous husband.

anto9 · 13-09-2013 03:02PM

All the hostile reactions because they come from the UK .YOU THINK OUR OWN SCUM ARE ANY BETTER ?

Pudders · 13-09-2013 03:05PM

If you search his past, he was an enforcer for one of London's biggest criminal gangs, the Adams family. The Adams were originally from Dublin. Ireland exported the family generations ago an now their associates are being imported back!

Amazing how many offences the Adams family and their associates got off with over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerkenwell_crime_syndicate

Artful_Badger · 13-09-2013 03:08PM

anto9 wrote: »

em ,just how would you apply that ,with no passport required to travel between the UK and Ireland .
There are far worse scum in Ireland like our Bankers and Politicians .

Like in the old west. "I catch you round here again and its curtains". Hand them a deportation order and if its ignored and they are picked up by the cops in the country again its a mandatory life sentence. That'll keep the fcukers either out of the country or living with their heads well and truly down. Not saying it'll happen but one can dream of a place where efforts are made to keep scummers under control.

And bankers and politicians are not far worse. You don't get any lower than violent criminals.

old hippy · 13-09-2013 03:11PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Like in the old west. "I catch you round here again and its curtains". Hand them a deportation order and if its ignored and they are picked up by the cops in the country again its a mandatory life sentence. That'll keep the fcukers either out of the country or living with their heads well and truly down. Not saying it'll happen but one can dream of a place where efforts are made to keep scummers under control.

And bankers and politicians are not far worse. You don't get any lower than violent criminals.

Hmm. Not sure about that. How many people have suffered from their actions compared to this pair?

Gyalist · 13-09-2013 03:13PM

FTA69 wrote: »

The pair of them will be out after two months. Absolutely sickening. Why do the courts in this country have such a tolerant attitude to violent crime? Do they have any idea the impact it has on the victim? These two arseholes should be deported straight after their sentences.

They haven't been imprisoned yet. They were freed on bail pending appeal.

Artful_Badger · 13-09-2013 03:14PM

old hippy wrote: »

Hmm. Not sure about that. How many people have suffered from their actions compared to this pair?

As far as them existing in society though who would you rather have living in your area ? Some crooked politician or a violent criminal ? A politician or banker removed from their position is no longer in a position to do damage and is just a figure of contempt. A violent scumbag on the other hand is an ever present threat.

Manchester criminal and girlfriend carry out unprovoked attack in West Cork

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