Vegetarians versus Carnivores.

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Except that any meat you can think of is, more often than not, accompanied by sauces made from spices, fruits and vegetables.

Eh, no. I am quite happy with a bland juicy, rare steak thanks.

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Elephants. What animal, carnivore or not, would take on a healthy Elephant in a fight? An Elephant would pick up a lion with its trunk, throw it 500 meters, then sprint after it and jump up and down on its head just for fun.

So with the above synopsis of the animal kingdom being undeniable - who could pretend vegetablarians are inferior to carnivores?

Talk to me.

By that logic, a 7 foot 19 stone Vegetarian would wimp out against a 4 foot 10 stone carnivore.

Zillah wrote: »

Very, very rarely, and even then it is usually juvenile, old or sick. So it takes a whole gang of alpha predators to take down a single feeble elephant.

Define rarely?

This blog records 74 observed in 4 years and increasing.

http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/risk/lion_elephant_predation_2006.html

As for targeting weaker animals, that's what most predators will do especially if the prey is larger than them. They go for younger/weaker buffalos, gazelles, etc...Not exclusive to elephants.

corktina wrote: »

Here's a fact for you....Carnivores don't get themselves eaten

Yeah they do, they just taste horrible.

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Elephant versus T-Rex?

T-Rex vs Brachiosaurus.

Checkmate.

kylith wrote: »

Yeah they do, they just taste horrible.

Lion is apparently delicious. Not had it, but it's regarded as a serious delicacy by some.

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

A population of ~7 billon may tend to disagree

Insects are superior to us then...

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

What comes after checkmate?

Flipping the board over in a huff? :pac:

Yeah, never had the pleasure (or the opportunity), and it seems counter-intuitive as we usually regard predators as less desirable, but I'd definitely enjoy a nice lion steak, given half a chance.

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

You can make glaciers retreat?

No but glaciers had retreated before, somehow the mammoth had managed to survive plenty of those types of events. Humans played a major role in the extinction of hundreds of animals in north America using just stone tools.

Also, the fact that humans can employ tools that can kill other animals does not make us superior. There is no evidence superior technology leads to better survivability.

There';s nothing but evidence, evolution is evidence, war is evidence, 7 billion people is evidence.

mitosis wrote: »

A human?

There is a story wherein Hannibal told a captured Legionnaire he could have his freedom if he could kill a war elephant in one on one combat. The Roman killed the elephant, Hannibal reneged and killed the Roman

We just don't know our full potential. There was a line of Persian kings that had to fight a lion to become a man. Humans are bad ass and every other living thing on the planet knows it.

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Elephants. What animal, carnivore or not, would take on a healthy Elephant in a fight? An Elephant would pick up a lion with its trunk, throw it 500 meters, then sprint after it and jump up and down on its head just for fun.

So with the above synopsis of the animal kingdom being undeniable - who could pretend vegetablarians are inferior to carnivores?

Talk to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydLA6OTk0sE

Zillah wrote: »

Vegetarian Human Vs Brachiosaurus.

Super checkmate.

If we are allowed to handicap the species, then:

Vegetarian Human vs Malnourished Brachiosaurus covered in vegetables.

:P

Zillah wrote: »

No you've got it backwards. Humans don't count as carnivores. I could shoot a brachiosaurus with a cannon to kill it, it's just a vegetarian killing a vegetarian.

Veggie supremacy.

You have these. You are not a vegetarian, no matter how hard you try. :P