Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

adox · 02-09-2013 11:06AM

deisedevil wrote: »

Is that what I said?

I'm referring to the #moyesout idiots who are too spoiled over the years to realise that the man is going to have to be given a lot of time and plenty of chances to do the job, instant success was always very unlikely. What Fergie achieved will never be equaled and therefore our expectations must be lowered. How many times have United fans laughed at other clubs fans for wanting a manager out after a short time in the job. The club stuck with Fergie and hopefully they will stick with Moyes.

You must be reading another thread or another forum!

NTMK · 02-09-2013 11:07AM

kryogen wrote: »

Which United fans, on here, as you said, have said Moyes out?

Theres been one or two but werent regulars iirc. Twitter was lit with that pathetic talk though :rolleyes:

supersean1999 · 02-09-2013 11:07AM

Moyes I'd imagine said I want baines, Fellaini, and fabregas, no fabregas ok I'll have Modric alonso injured no Modric give me Herrera, the club has not delivered, what the manager seen and wanted is spot on,evra is past his best, we need cover for carrick and someone who can also play with him easy, and also we need creativity in midfield,

MagicIRL · 02-09-2013 11:07AM

Goal.com running Fellaini to United for 24mill in advanced talks.

deisedevil · 02-09-2013 11:09AM

adox wrote: »

You must be reading another thread or another forum!

I wasn't talking about the forum and I never said I was.

Crimson King · 02-09-2013 11:09AM

@JohnBrewinESPN Mesut Ozil, the band Andrei Arshavin could have been.

Made me chuckle anyways

deisedevil · 02-09-2013 11:12AM

newballsplease wrote: »

It doesnt need 'time' to see that YOU DO NOT START A 39 YEAR OLD AGAINST LIVERPOOL AT ANFIELD.

So Moyes is done then? Without any insight into why he went with Giggs you have decided that you want him out.

SlickRic · 02-09-2013 11:12AM

Moyes is happy with what he's got.

did you not hear him yesterday?

TheDoc · 02-09-2013 11:12AM

Alot of journos on Twitter feel that Baines, Fellaini and Herrera will get wrapped up today.

The consensus is that United are a few million short of the clause, and need to just man up and hit the clause. Player is keen on the move and all that is left is for United to match the clause for Herrera.

Player personal terms are expected to be wrapped up quick as all three keen on playing for United, the timesink seems to be United matching the evluations of the holding clubs.

Vic Vinegar · 02-09-2013 11:13AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Moyes is happy with what he's got.

did you not hear him yesterday?

Yeah, cos he should have said -

"we're urgently looking for midfield reinforcements, so if your club has any, prepare to shaft us over the price"

Cos that would have helped immensely.

homerjay2005 · 02-09-2013 11:14AM

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

The Little Fella · 02-09-2013 11:15AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

With the current midfield situation, 5th i would think.

Aidric · 02-09-2013 11:15AM

Soldie wrote: »

Criminal that we're not in for Özil‎.

According to Mark Ogden Utd & City turned down the chance to sign him.

Mark Ogden ‏@MOgdenTelegraph 2h
Man Utd and Man City both offered, and rejected, the chance to sign Mesut Ozil a month ago, so don't expect a U-turn today

WIZE · 02-09-2013 11:15AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

3rd

kryogen · 02-09-2013 11:16AM

TheDoc wrote: »

Alot of journos on Twitter feel that Baines, Fellaini and Herrera will get wrapped up today.

The consensus is that United are a few million short of the clause, and need to just man up and hit the clause. Player is keen on the move and all that is left is for United to match the clause for Herrera.

Player personal terms are expected to be wrapped up quick as all three keen on playing for United, the timesink seems to be United matching the evluations of the holding clubs.

If we learned anything from the Thiago saga it was that Spanish release clauses are not just a simple matter of being met

kryogen · 02-09-2013 11:17AM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Yeah, cos he should have said -

"we're urgently looking for midfield reinforcements, so if your club has any, prepare to shaft us over the price"

Cos that would have helped immensely.

He doesn't have to say that, it is obvious to everyone we need midfielders.

Headshot · 02-09-2013 11:17AM

oh such a depressing day it just keeps me from hanging on, oh it just keeps me from hanging on

supersean1999 · 02-09-2013 11:18AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

Prob finish 2 or 3rd, get out of the group in Europe, and probably last 8' to win the fa cup on pens versus Liverpool and to get knocked out of the league cup in the last 8 against Everton,, GET on it

deisedevil · 02-09-2013 11:18AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

Not good at all. Without at the very least bringing in Fellaini we will struggle and are looking at fighting for CL spot. Hopefully next summer Moyes will have had a chance to identify who needs to go and have deals done earlier in the summer. This season was always going to be a tough one for us and I was never expecting to be winning the league this season.

TheDoc · 02-09-2013 11:18AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so assuming Arsenal deal for Ozil is done, if no other players move in the next 10 hours or so, how do ye rate our chances for the season?

Not as dire as people would make out. OK two poor performances. It's early season yet, no one is really hitting the ground running. ONce the squad settles and the first eleven gets more established I think we are still strong contenders.

You can't buy PL winning experience, which we have in abundance. Especially for our young lads ( and evne RVP) who will probably crave for it more.

Yes there are valid concerns, but I think you can sometimes read too much into the start of the season, squad comes back at different times and takes different lengths to get back to the level required.

When Nani, Rooney and Kagawa all get to the level required and settle into the squad, think we have just a good chance as anyone else. Yes the midfield is a concern, but the league isn't lost in the first month. Our midfield if it stays the same has the ability to stumble by against the teams beneath us, where I believe the league is won.
Slipups to mid table teams or lower, and I'll be concerned.

We need to remember that ok, we drew with Chelsea, a title rival, and lost to Liverpool, an age old rival.

I'd be more concerned if the teams concerned were something like West Brom and Cardiff....

newballsplease · 02-09-2013 11:18AM

deisedevil wrote: »

So Moyes is done then? Without any insight into why he went with Giggs you have decided that you want him out.

I never said he should be sacked or anthing like that? Some people on here must be on mushrooms or something!!

I have no idea why he went with giggs. Id really love to know. I wish i could ask him.
Anyone that watches football should be able to see that a top team should not be starting a 39 year old in s match of that status.
Ridiculous decision and post match comments.
'Giving him time' doesnt come into it.
I back moyes all the way. I hope he stays with Utd for years to come. Just can not understand his decisions and comments yesterday.

Vic Vinegar · 02-09-2013 11:18AM

kryogen wrote: »

He doesn't have to say that, it is obvious to everyone we need midfielders.

So you're happy for him to say that to the press and risk undermining squad morale? nice one.

J. Marston · 02-09-2013 11:19AM

Aidric wrote: »

According to Mark Ogden Utd & City turned down the chance to sign him.

We rejected Ozil.

I can't think of any words. I just give up.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2013 11:19AM

I be happy with signing Liam Miller thats how low things are.

Depressing stuff.

We have overtaken Arsenal as the most laughable club this summer. ****ing Arsenal

Klair88 · 02-09-2013 11:20AM

I am as frustrated as everyone else with the lack of signings too but obviously there's reasons we don't and will never know about.

Whatever happens today, I'll still be backing moyes until the end of the next season!

I think its a case where he doesn't want to change the structure or impose his vision on United, but as a fan thats what i want him to do!

I love you ryan buddy but sit down and coach like Neville does. You are not a Player anymore and you take up a very good position. Cleverly.. you're just not made of the right stuff... for united.

As far as i'm concerned, Moyes has 2 seasons to make this team his own. This Transfer market gives us a good heads up but surely he'll learn from this season, whatever the results, and know exactly the changes he wants to make for next season!

homerjay2005 · 02-09-2013 11:20AM

TheDoc wrote: »

Alot of journos on Twitter feel that Baines, Fellaini and Herrera will get wrapped up today.

considering what has gone on all summer, do we have the resources, people, negotiating skills, time and above all else the cash, to seal these?

one yes, two at a stretch, but 3? i dont think so.

happy to be proven wrong of course. but if that was to happen, it would be about €80million and to be honest, it could have been spent alot better.

lets see.

TheDoc · 02-09-2013 11:20AM

J. Marston wrote: »

We rejected Ozil.

I can't think of any words. I just give up.

As mentioned a while back, there is legimate concerns with him over stamina and engine, its not the best.

Also could see why we would say no, if at the time we were being fed information that Fabregas wanted to join.

Maximus Alexander · 02-09-2013 11:21AM

deisedevil wrote: »

Not good at all. Without at the very least bringing in Fellaini we will struggle and are looking at fighting for CL spot. Hopefully next summer Moyes will have had a chance to identify who needs to go and have deals done earlier in the summer. This season was always going to be a tough one for us and I was never expecting to be winning the league this season.

Seriously?

I don't often use this but :rolleyes:

Crimson King · 02-09-2013 11:21AM

kryogen wrote: »

If we learned anything from the Thiago saga it was that Spanish release clauses are not just a simple matter of being met

Exactly, the clauses only apply to Spanish clubs.

The club itself have specifically said they will listen to the player first and if he wants to leave then they will consider offers.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2013 11:21AM

As bad things are today I will be 1000% behind Moyes this season.

I really dont think its his fault (or very little) its our dealings that have been a shambles.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

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