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In what ways is Germany not fecking it up

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Marshall Plan.

    They would have been on their ****ing knees without it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Beer and Sausages.

    A great breakfast anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    They get rich slowly. We get rich quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Then we all die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    They amaze me, they were cleaned out and fleeced from 2 separate World War reparations, the Americans especially did them over big time after WW2. They had to struggle through reunification at a later date but yet in 2013 they are the leading economy in Europe.

    Maybe the next time we go to war they will finally be in place to fulfill their destiny. :pac:

    What? I guess you didn't get the memo on the Marshall Plan??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    What? I guess you didn't get the memo on the Marshall Plan??

    The vast, vast majority of which went to Britain, incidentally. While in Germany, industry was dismantled and closed down with the aim of reducing industry output to 50% the level of 1938 (in the Western occupied zones, Russia took a much more stringent approach).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    a population of 81 million helps.

    How exactly does a larger population help?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    anto9 wrote: »
    If you do go ,i hope you improve your English first ,never mind knowing German .
    Out of interest what age are you ?
    Obviously sarcasm doesn't translate well per bulletin board


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    A strong manufacturing industry that makes stuff. People buy stuff. Germany gets rich.

    Ireland on the other hand had wealth built on imaginary property prices. People don't buy dreams. Ireland bankrupt

    I'm no massive fan of the German way but Germany is probably the only country left in Europe that takes "making stuff" seriously.

    The rest of us are happy enough to send our money away to China so we can resell their flimsy goods to each other at a much inflated price and busy ourselves looking after the resulting financial transactions (really just a few bytes on some computer running an ancient COBOL app).

    Maybe accessible 3D printing will help change this some bit but I havn't much hope tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Elbaston wrote: »
    How come Germany managed to turn itself and its economy around after that whole "war" hoopla and then all that whole Communist Berlin wall thing.

    Now they're minted.

    Meanwhile in Ireland, which has seen (relative) peace for many many decades now and has had zero USSR overlords/Stazi state police....fecked.


    Can we copy them ?

    Because, through the last fifty years, Germans have learnt how to live within their means and not try and buy **** because their neighbours has it or take out a 100% mortgage under the impression it somehow shows success.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    I'm no massive fan of the German way but Germany is probably the only country left in Europe that takes "making stuff" seriously.

    The rest of us are happy enough to send our money away to China so we can resell their flimsy goods to each other at a much inflated price and busy ourselves looking after the resulting financial transactions (really just a few bytes on some computer running an ancient COBOL app).

    Maybe accessible 3D printing will help change this some bit but I havn't much hope tbh

    Italy make stuff too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,979 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    hansfrei wrote: »
    Italy make stuff too.
    but do the make the (very expensive) machines that the chinese buy to make their stuff?

    anyhow, whilst Ireland was going mad building houses in places where there werent any jobs (except building houses on tax grants) Germany was going through a mini recession.
    There was such a crisis in Germany that from 2005 to 2009 (the HEIGHT of Irelands boom) that they had a grand coalition with the 2 largest parties, the equvalent of arch enemies FF and FG putting their differences aside for the good of the country. Thats how bad things were.
    When in Ireland it was considered a fact of life that you should get a 5 to 10% pay rise, in Germany there was rounds of pay cuts and redundancys which NOW has made the country way more competitive than it was before - along with years of no pay rises too.

    But anyhow, everyone in Ireland was too busy buying apartments in Bulgaria to notice that places like Germany were not in a boom at the time and if anything were in a mini recession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    corktina wrote: »
    the difference is that they go out to look for business and we sit here waiting for it to come to us...take ALDI and LIDL, purpose built chains to sell German products in....how many shops does Dunnes or SuperValu have abroad selling Irish produce?

    What about penneys ?
    http://www.petra.de/mode/modetrends/news/primark-stores-in-ganz-deutschland

    Germans love cheap underpants


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    hansfrei wrote: »
    Italy make stuff too.

    They make some nice pressure washer pumps and a few fun to drive but unreliable cars, not that there's anything wrong with that - if Italian cars were like Volkswagens the appeal would be gone.


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