Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

wazzer1 · 25-08-2013 09:31PM

Sheehan is out, as is Killian Young, two big losses for Kerry.

TheGoldenAges · 25-08-2013 10:37PM

Rumours saying Alan Brogan played in a trainning game with most of the starters last week, will Jim take a gamble on him?
I wouldn't anyway

Pierce_1991 · 25-08-2013 10:40PM

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Rumours saying Alan Brogan played in a trainning game with most of the starters last week, will Jim take a gamble on him?
I wouldn't anyway

Thats really a gamble not worth taking.

Justin10 · 25-08-2013 10:43PM

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Rumours saying Alan Brogan played in a trainning game with most of the starters last week, will Jim take a gamble on him?
I wouldn't anyway

He wont even be on the bench.

Stoner · 25-08-2013 11:19PM

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Rumours saying Alan Brogan played in a trainning game with most of the starters last week, will Jim take a gamble on him?
I wouldn't anyway

Well I read today that Gavin gives him zero chance to play but is keeping him around for his experience. If he's going well in training he'd be a nice impact sub to release his brother.

I was happy with what I saw today I think Kerry or Dublin would rattle Mayo, an early lead is important, by all accounts if Mayo start to open a gap they look hard to catch, but lads like AOS looked like confidence players today, and both Dublin and kerry could get a run on them

Squidgy Black · 25-08-2013 11:22PM

As good of a player as the older of the Brogan brothers is, he's not exactly a necessity this year, so it'd be silly to take a chance on sticking a player coming back from a season long injury against a team like Kerry in the semis, particularly when there's ample replacements.

smileyj1987 · 25-08-2013 11:35PM

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Rumours saying Alan Brogan played in a trainning game with most of the starters last week, will Jim take a gamble on him?
I wouldn't anyway

I loved watching Alan play and hopefully we get to see him back at some stage . I don't think he will be up to much for the team this year because of his lack of game time . I really hope we can get him fit for the league campaign next year .

corny · 25-08-2013 11:37PM

LeoB wrote: »

Dont put to much heed on the media in the coming week. Anyone who thinks we will give Kerry a trimming should think again.

Cluxton
Daly
O'Carroll
O'Brien
McCarthy
Brennan
McCaffrey
MDMA
O'Sullivan or Bastic
Flynn
C.K.K
Connolly
Mannion
Rock
Brogan

I know its de rigueur for Dublin supporters to play it cool with the expectation and hype but there's one reason why i'm very confident Dublin will beat Kerry. Its age.

If you take that Dublin team, Brennan and Brogan are the only two outfield players over 26 and both are still under 30. Kerry, going by their semi final line up, will probably have 8 or 9 lads over 29. Its an absolute certainty that Dublin will out work them and Kerry would have to be quite a bit superior in terms of ability to offset that. They're not that.

Dublins energy to overwhelm them.;)

Moneymaker · 26-08-2013 10:33AM

Been a bit harsh on BB, having watched back the Cork game he put in an immense amount of work and won ball which went unnoticed, it'll come right for him sooner or later, lets hope its next week.

I'd stick with Connolly too, as infuriating as he can be, he kept wanting the ball and he never hid.

Dean Rock has to start imo.

DoctaDee · 26-08-2013 11:13AM

Moneymaker wrote: »

Been a bit harsh on BB, having watched back the Cork game he put in an immense amount of work and won ball which went unnoticed, it'll come right for him sooner or later, lets hope its next week.

I'd stick with Connolly too, as infuriating as he can be, he kept wanting the ball and he never hid.

Dean Rock has to start imo.

I'm scratching me head with regard to the starting front 6 for Dublin on Sunday. We'd posted previously about Dublin needing to refine their attacking game at the backend of the championship to prevent the better teams running thru the half backs. To this end Cullen was employed last time out to range between the 2 45's.

If Cullen was to start Sunday - specifically to nullify the ball winning of Kerrys big 2 in midfield and provide additional cover to the HB's - then Connolly would more than likely move into the full forward line. I personally think DC is the most natural of the forwards for finishing goals - playing out the field against Cork he frustratingly slowed down a lot of the build up play taking too much out of the ball.

Similarly Dean Rock if he was to start would be best suited to a half forward role, I think the relative space and time outside the 21 suits him better than in close to the square. The forgotten man in all this seems to be Paddy Andrews - not being privy to whats going in the training camps etc. I still wonder at the fact that he now seems to be marginalised - particularly bearing in mind the impact he made early on in the year and specifically his display against Kerry in Killarney.

GK1001 · 26-08-2013 12:14PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

I'm scratching me head with regard to the starting front 6 for Dublin on Sunday. We'd posted previously about Dublin needing to refine their attacking game at the backend of the championship to prevent the better teams running thru the half backs. To this end Cullen was employed last time out to range between the 2 45's.

If Cullen was to start Sunday - specifically to nullify the ball winning of Kerrys big 2 in midfield and provide additional cover to the HB's - then Connolly would more than likely move into the full forward line. I personally think DC is the most natural of the forwards for finishing goals - playing out the field against Cork he frustratingly slowed down a lot of the build up play taking too much out of the ball.

Similarly Dean Rock if he was to start would be best suited to a half forward role, I think the relative space and time outside the 21 suits him better than in close to the square. The forgotten man in all this seems to be Paddy Andrews - not being privy to whats going in the training camps etc. I still wonder at the fact that he now seems to be marginalised - particularly bearing in mind the impact he made early on in the year and specifically his display against Kerry in Killarney.

I think you could be bang on there with the shout on Cullen. As much as I'd like to see Rock given the start, I think this game is made for Connolly named in at FF, with BB and Mannion either side. Flynner, Cullen, and Kilkenny in the half forwards. Connolly will drop out to the half forward line with Cullen working off the middle 2 and HB's.

I keep oscillating between us surely winning to Kerry are going to do us with all those old heads gunning for 2011 revenge...Roll on Sunday

Moneymaker · 26-08-2013 12:41PM

10. Flynn
11. Kilkenny
12. Rock/Cullen
13. Mannion
14. Connolly
15. Brogan

Seems good to me.

corny · 26-08-2013 02:35PM

I don't mind who lines up but i want to see 3 inside forwards against Kerry.

Connolly was pushed infield by Cullens inclusion and as a result KK was marginalised. It didn't work. KK uses the ball so much better than Connolly. They should be ramming the ball down his throat like they did in the Meath game. No more crowding in the HF's.

Connolly with Brogan and Mannion either side sounds good to me too.

Moneymaker · 26-08-2013 03:08PM

I'm very concerned about Ger Brennan up against Gooch though.

dcr22B · 26-08-2013 03:13PM

freddiek wrote: »

my ban was expired on Res Dubs and I was going to post the above on there but they don't like outsiders

Ha
Ha
Ha
Ha
Ha

Ah Dino, you're gas

bootybouncer · 26-08-2013 03:58PM

Moneymaker wrote: »

I'm very concerned about Ger Brennan up against Gooch though.

Id pull Cian into the 6 spot and start Bastick besdie Mickey

DoctaDee · 27-08-2013 01:36PM

corny wrote: »

I don't mind who lines up but i want to see 3 inside forwards against Kerry.

Connolly was pushed infield by Cullens inclusion and as a result KK was marginalised. It didn't work. KK uses the ball so much better than Connolly. They should be ramming the ball down his throat like they did in the Meath game. No more crowding in the HF's.

Connolly with Brogan and Mannion either side sounds good to me too.

Thats a very good observation Corny - certainly to maximise their greater mobility (imo) they need to work the Kerry back line tirelessly and need an inside 3 to do so. I don't know whether it was just the nature of the Cork game or not, but DC did seem to get the majority of ball that Kilkenny would ordinarily have been expected to gather. Strangely enough they had no problem with their own space on the pitch when both were named in the HF line.

It's hard to 2nd guess what formation Fitzmaurice will go for - I really can't see him going man for man. I'd hazard a guess that they will likely set up along the lines of the 2nd half v Cavan, with 12 behind the ball, they'll target possibly 3 in midfield and also Galvin withdrawn to a deeper role. Alternatively he may decide to go at Dublin from the start - there's every likelihood based on previous matches, and try to blitz a 5 point odd lead. I think that either scenario still requires a defensive minded HF to start as Gavin will hope that Dublin will be still competitive by the 50 min mark to allow their sheer pace and conditioning see them through.

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corny · 27-08-2013 06:57PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Thats a very good observation Corny - certainly to maximise their greater mobility (imo) they need to work the Kerry back line tirelessly and need an inside 3 to do so. I don't know whether it was just the nature of the Cork game or not, but DC did seem to get the majority of ball that Kilkenny would ordinarily have been expected to gather. Strangely enough they had no problem with their own space on the pitch when both were named in the HF line.

It's hard to 2nd guess what formation Fitzmaurice will go for - I really can't see him going man for man. I'd hazard a guess that they will likely set up along the lines of the 2nd half v Cavan, with 12 behind the ball, they'll target possibly 3 in midfield and also Galvin withdrawn to a deeper role. Alternatively he may decide to go at Dublin from the start - there's every likelihood based on previous matches, and try to blitz a 5 point odd lead. I think that either scenario still requires a defensive minded HF to start as Gavin will hope that Dublin will be still competitive by the 50 min mark to allow their sheer pace and conditioning see them through.

I think it was tbh. As i remember Connolly was targeted dropping deep quite a bit from Cluxtons kickouts. They seemed to have a method for dragging Corks midfielders to the side and picking out the half forwards.

We've been fairly passive in the first 15 minutes all summer. Even Kildare were 1-2 to no score up after 10 minutes. There's a good chance Kerry will look to start fast. Then they'll park the bus.:D

LeoB · 27-08-2013 11:27PM

They started fast a few years ago against us, targeted Cullen and forgot to park the bus:(. I just worry about Cullen's pace and depending how Kerry set up with Crowley, O'Donohue and O'Leary it could suggest they will try and blitz Dublin early on. Buckley is also very mobile and strong on the ball and Gouch might be pushed forward a little. While some Kerry lads have serious miles on the clock they also have serious pace in key positions. Who will pick up Darren Sullivan? Jack Mc? That would leave serious space for other Kerry lads. Im not sure the age profile will come into to much

Kerry have yet to introduce Patrick Curran and Brian Looney both excellent forwards also so without stretching themselves they are at the same stage as Dublin.

Would agree with Dublin deploying 3 man full forward line. Think I would keep Bastic in case Gouch gets a march on Brennan.

I think we are in for a right battle but I think we will shade it.

Prop Joe · 28-08-2013 09:04AM

Kerry will line up as follows

Marc O Sé - Brogan
Mark Griffin - Rock/Andrews - Will change if ye start Cullen as a sweeper
Shane Enright - Mannion
Tomas O Sé - Connolly
Peter Crowley - Kilkenny
Fionn Fitz - Flynn
Paul Galvin and Donnacha Walsh will play just behind the midfield for protection
Buckley & Maher in the middle
Gooch & Declan o Sull on the 40
James O Donoghoe & Darran O Sullivan in the Full Forward Line

Eoin Brosnan,Aidan O Mahoney,David Moran,Bryan Sheehan and Kieran Donaghy will be the subs.

Slattsy · 28-08-2013 11:30AM

I would have preferred if Donaghy started to be honest, he's been useless.

But he is better coming on as a sub as a good impact type player, esp if the game is tight he can cause damage at full forward with high balls into him.

freddiek · 28-08-2013 11:34AM

Do ye ever notice a lot of the Dub players have half-culchie accents??

Must be from growing up with de culchie parents and going on all them holidays down de country...

Ray Cosgrove...the culchiest-sounding Dub I ever heard

:D

Slattsy · 28-08-2013 11:40AM

Did ye ever notice a lot of non-Dubs are actually fascinated by the Dubs??

GK1001 · 28-08-2013 11:47AM

I like the fact that we're repopulating the surrounding counties with their next generations of players. As we send out the Dublin culture to the rest of the country, Louth, Meath, Laois, Carlow, Wicklow, et al...they'll all have good Dub accents in the years to come!

One of my best mates is a meathman, biggest scrote Dub accent you'll ever hear....love it!

dcr22B · 28-08-2013 12:24PM

freddiek wrote: »

Do ye ever notice a lot of the Dub players have half-culchie accents??

Must be from growing up with de culchie parents and going on all them holidays down de country...

Ray Cosgrove...the culchiest-sounding Dub I ever heard :D

Are you not back in school yet?

Oasis_Dublin · 28-08-2013 12:32PM

freddiek wrote: »

Ray Cosgrove...the culchiest-sounding Dub I ever heard :D

I was only talking to Ray the other day. You're very much mistaken!

coolisin · 28-08-2013 01:02PM

freddiek wrote: »

Do ye ever notice a lot of the Dub players have half-culchie accents??

Must be from growing up with de culchie parents and going on all them holidays down de country...

Ray Cosgrove...the culchiest-sounding Dub I ever heard :D

You still flogging that dead fuc*ing horse.

Your persistent, genuinely can you give me an actual real reason for you popping in every few days banging on about how Dublin is the only county to benefit from parents outside it.

Clearly a dub swooned your Culchie girlfriend with his colin farrell impression and you hold a grudge because there "unnatural" half blood half breed child is now on a Dublin team.

Clearly has pissed you off no end.

ciarriaithuaidh · 28-08-2013 01:26PM

LeoB wrote: »

They started fast a few years ago against us, targeted Cullen and forgot to park the bus:(. I just worry about Cullen's pace and depending how Kerry set up with Crowley, O'Donohue and O'Leary it could suggest they will try and blitz Dublin early on. Buckley is also very mobile and strong on the ball and Gouch might be pushed forward a little. While some Kerry lads have serious miles on the clock they also have serious pace in key positions. Who will pick up Darren Sullivan? Jack Mc? That would leave serious space for other Kerry lads. Im not sure the age profile will come into to much

Kerry have yet to introduce Patrick Curran and Brian Looney both excellent forwards also so without stretching themselves they are at the same stage as Dublin.

Would agree with Dublin deploying 3 man full forward line. Think I would keep Bastic in case Gouch gets a march on Brennan.

I think we are in for a right battle but I think we will shade it.

Eh, O'Leary is nowhere near starting, "Curran" is meant to be Curtin I assume and Brian Looney isn't even on the panel. Bit more homework needed I'd say!

Stoner · 28-08-2013 02:13PM

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Eh, O'Leary is nowhere near starting, "Curran" is meant to be Curtin I assume and Brian Looney isn't even on the panel. Bit more homework needed I'd say!

So technically he was correct neither has been introduced :-)

The kerry crowd seem to love Curtin, I hope we don't find out why on Sunday.

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

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