Video Games - They Don't Make Them Like They Used To...

Corkfeen · 28-08-2013 11:12AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

How can anyone be nostalgic for video games? They just keep getting better and better year after year.

Some of my favourite recent games could have been developed for most of the old consoles with little impact upon the graphics or gameplay. (Super Meat Boy and The Binding of Isaac come to mind) Likewise I still play some of my favourite games that are decades old.

TheIrishGrover · 28-08-2013 11:23AM

Billy86 wrote: »

Just stumbled upon this, apparently this game was quite popular and widely sold in shops on the old Atari back in the mid-80s:

And in Japan, these guys featured in 'Vendetta' - a 1991 'Streets of Rage' type game that was made by Konami, one of the biggest games developers of the last 20-odd years.

Well, that's it really. Enjoy your day everybody!

I used to work in a video arcade in the 90's while in college. We had that Japanese version of Vendetta, thinking it was the hugely popular (but very different) western version. Nobody really played it as it wasn't the same game.
So one day I'm walking past the machine and a 10 or 11 yearold kid is playing it and I hear those two gimp lads. I think to meself "Yer just being a pervert, let's see what's really goiOHMYGOD!!!!!!!! The kid is pissing himself laughing but I give him his 20p back and switch off the machine. Myself and my boss turn it back on after closing to see what the rest is like. If I remember correctly there was a huge obese boss who shot flames out of her tits or used the flames like tassles etc. Bizarre.

Myrddin · 28-08-2013 11:23AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

I'm talking about gameplay, not graphics. The sandbox concept has made games many times more playable than they have ever been.

So you reckon GTAIV, is a better game than Zelda: Link to the Past say?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-08-2013 11:26AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXJekFnFE7E

Mr Benevolent · 28-08-2013 11:27AM

EnterNow wrote: »

So you reckon GTAIV, is a better game than Zelda: Link to the Past say?

I've never played any of the Zeldas, but I've never liked that type of quest game anyway, so yes, GTA IV is better from my perspective.

BeerWolf · 28-08-2013 11:30AM

Games have really gone down hill ever sing Pong...

Myrddin · 28-08-2013 11:31AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

I've never played any of the Zeldas, but I've never liked that type of quest game anyway, so yes, GTA IV is better from my perspective.

Well personal taste is one thing, but arguing that sandbox games are automatically superior to linear games seems silly. What about Half Life 1/2, because they arn't sandbox games they're automatically not as good gameplay wise as sandbox games?

TheIrishGrover · 28-08-2013 11:31AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

How can anyone be nostalgic for video games? They just keep getting better and better year after year.

Yes, 'cos COD 2010 is RADICALLY different from COD 2011......

Was always more of a fan of arcade SHMUPS. Have been to a good few arcades in Japan and it's cool to see cutting edge, complex and innovative arcade machines sitting beside old school games in standard JAMMA cabinets and ALL being played. (And yes, even there placing your coins against the glass above the joystick/buttons is the universal language for "I'm next")

krudler · 28-08-2013 11:34AM

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Yes, 'cos COD 2010 is RADICALLY different from COD 2011......

Was always more of a fan of arcade SHMUPS. Have been to a good few arcades in Japan and it's cool to see cutting edge, complex and innovative arcade machines sitting beside old school games in standard JAMMA cabinets and ALL being played. (And yes, even there placing your coins against the glass above the joystick/buttons is the universal language for "I'm next")

I miss real arcades, seasides here used to be great for them but they're all crappy driving games and coin dozers and stuff now, ages and ages ago I was in Tramore and spotted a working Double Dragon cabinet, guy wouldnt sell it to me though even though it was just sat there ignored

28-08-2013 11:39AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

I've never played any of the Zeldas, but I've never liked that type of quest game anyway, so yes, GTA IV is better from my perspective.

returnNull · 28-08-2013 11:39AM

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

(And yes, even there placing your coins against the glass above the joystick/buttons is the universal language for "I'm next")

I really miss that

gugleguy · 28-08-2013 11:45AM

krudler wrote: »

guy wouldnt sell it to me though even though it was just sat there ignored

Sounds a bit like a story about irish rail in their CIE heyday. A loco preservation enthusiast who told irish rail he wanted to buy a loco off cie that was surplus to requirements and being allowed to rust away then. Irish rail did nt wanna sell it and seemed to prefer to let the loco rot cos the enthuiast did'nt have the right connections etc.

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-08-2013 11:52AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBeCJzg6L8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ta6YDWDPjc

Cienciano · 28-08-2013 11:54AM

There was some class older games, but in general, games are better now imho. I said "in general" before the retro lads have a fit!
I downloaded streets of rage a while ago, it's actually fairly shíte.

o1s1n · 28-08-2013 11:55AM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

I've never played any of the Zeldas, but I've never liked that type of quest game anyway, so yes, GTA IV is better from my perspective.

Eh..don't meant to point out the obvious, but how do you know you don't like a game if you've never played any of them?

FatherLen · 28-08-2013 11:55AM

The problem with modern games is people have become satisfied with mediocrity. For example, the COD franchise. Modern warfare came out and gave first person shooters a new feel but treyarch and infinity ward have been releasing the same game every year for six years and people seem to be ok with that.

Grand Theft auto 3 came out and blew peoples minds, again rockstar have been releasing the same game with minor changes to gameplay but huge changes to graphics and are calling it a new game.

Now to be fair to modern games, the things that can be done now are amazing. Graphics and engines have improved so much and make games phenomenal to look at but unfortunately this has been used as an excuse by some developers to get lazy with the story and gameplay.

My two favourite game companies now would have to be Bethesda and Valve. Half life and portal are, in my opinion some of the best games ever made and games like skyrim and oblivion are just amazing in every aspect.

BeerWolf · 28-08-2013 12:02PM

Know what I miss ? Point and click adventure games - they used to be big in the late 80s to early 90s... now they're effectively dead, save for a few.

Games from the likes produced off Sierra [e.g. King's Quest series, Gabriel Knight, etc. ], Lucas Arts (ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS COMPANY) [ e.g. - Sam and Max, Monkey Island, etc. ], and Westwood [ e.g. The Legend of Kyrandia series ] to name some.

Pure classics!

krudler · 28-08-2013 12:04PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

Know what I miss ? Point and click adventure games - they used to be big in the late 80s to early 90s... now they're effectively dead, save for a few.

Games from the likes produced off Sierra [e.g. King's Quest series ], Lucas Arts [ e.g. - Sam and Max ], and Westwood [ e.g. The Legend of Kyrandia series ] to name some.

Pure classics!

try The Walking Dead, it's not purely point and click but there's a big element of it, and it's fantastic, pisses all over the tv series in terms of writing and emotional involvement.

BeerWolf · 28-08-2013 12:07PM

krudler wrote: »

try The Walking Dead, it's not purely point and click but there's a big element of it, and it's fantastic, pisses all over the tv series in terms of writing and emotional involvement.

Played it already - plan to get the next installment

If you're interested - go to AGD Interactive. You can download legal remakes of King's Quest 1, 2 and 3, and Quest for Glory II.

1ZRed · 28-08-2013 12:22PM

Looking back at old games 99% of them are terrible in comparison to games these days, of course there are exceptions.

Games are better today then they were. Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted and The Last of Us are amazing games in gameplay and in their immersion and story telling ability.

You've a lot of boring crap like COD, but they're only for a bit of fun in online MP. I don't think anyone thinks of COD as anything better than a time killer tbh.

Skerries · 28-08-2013 12:24PM

FatherLen wrote: »

also, just in case you are unaware of this website.

I'd take that down as I got a bollocking the other week for putting it up

MurdyWurdy · 28-08-2013 12:25PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

Know what I miss ? Point and click adventure games - they used to be big in the late 80s to early 90s... now they're effectively dead, save for a few.

Games from the likes produced off Sierra [e.g. King's Quest series, Gabriel Knight, etc. ], Lucas Arts (ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS COMPANY) [ e.g. - Sam and Max, Monkey Island, etc. ], and Westwood [ e.g. The Legend of Kyrandia series ] to name some.

Pure classics!

Was just going to post this - all the Sierras quest series (police quest, king's quest and space quest) were brilliant. Also, who can forget Leisure Suit Larry?

ahnowbrowncow · 28-08-2013 12:31PM

Skerries wrote: »

I'd take that down as I got a bollocking the other week for putting it up

Won't be able to take it down after you've quoted it

Myrddin · 28-08-2013 12:34PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Games are better today then they were. Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted and The Last of Us are amazing games in gameplay and in their immersion and story telling ability.

ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Ocarina of Time, Half Life 1 & 2, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Phantasy Star II, Phantasy Star IV, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 4, Shenmue 1 & 2...I could go on & on. Again, you'd swear immersion, storytelling & gameplay were recent discoveries or something

krudler · 28-08-2013 12:34PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Looking back at old games 99% of them are terrible in comparison to games these days, of course there are exceptions.

Games are better today then they were. Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted and The Last of Us are amazing games in gameplay and in their immersion and story telling ability.

You've a lot of boring crap like COD, but they're only for a bit of fun in online MP. I don't think anyone thinks of COD as anything better than a time killer tbh.

99% is a push, there's tons of retro games worth playing, loads of utterly sh1te games these days too.

1ZRed · 28-08-2013 12:43PM

EnterNow wrote: »

ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Ocarina of Time, Half Life 1 & 2, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Phantasy Star II, Phantasy Star IV, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 4, Shenmue 1 & 2...I could go on & on. Again, you'd swear immersion, storytelling & gameplay were recent discoveries or something

As far as I can tell many of them would be quite recent too. I only picked very recent ones because they were at the top of my head, they're still good examples though.

Ruu · 28-08-2013 12:44PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

Know what I miss ? Point and click adventure games - they used to be big in the late 80s to early 90s... now they're effectively dead, save for a few.

Games from the likes produced off Sierra [e.g. King's Quest series, Gabriel Knight, etc. ], Lucas Arts (ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS COMPANY) [ e.g. - Sam and Max, Monkey Island, etc. ], and Westwood [ e.g. The Legend of Kyrandia series ] to name some.

Pure classics!

Beneath a Steel Sky and Darkseed/Darkseed 2 were good.

Potatoeman · 28-08-2013 01:22PM

The only way to really spot a great game is if you can still play it. For me the only games that have this are. Zelda on the snes and Vampire bloodlines (replayed this last week).
I loved FF 7 and command and conquer but could never replay them again.

There are hard games out there (stalker series) but many old games were so hard they were just not that much fun. A game should scale to different people and their ability. The lack of continues also forces replays through the same content which wont fly nowadays.

Potatoeman · 28-08-2013 01:23PM

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

Was just going to post this - all the Sierras quest series (police quest, king's quest and space quest) were brilliant. Also, who can forget Leisure Suit Larry?

Point and click games are making a comeback on smartphones. There are loads of them, even some ports.

kfallon · 28-08-2013 01:24PM

Kick Off 2!

Best. Football. Game. Ever.

Video Games - They Don't Make Them Like They Used To...

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