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Asked to teach a subject not qualified in

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  • #122
    deanswift
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭deanswift


    cb7 wrote: »
    I have been asked to teach Physics this year and I don't have a clue of it. I did it for Junior cert science. I never did it at all in college. I am a Science teacher and Biology is my main area. I have expressed my concern to the principal but can I be made teach this subject?

    i think this is unfair to you and the students......you may be taking on more than you realise........i am a retired physics teacher with a degree in physics and you are welcome to contact me here if you like......best of luck ....i know u want to keep your job!


  • #123
    deanswift
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭deanswift


    my advice start with light and then move onto heat and then some basic electricity that should take u up to Christmas
    then modern physics like radioactivity.......basic magnetism...........u will have to read up on some of this stuff....but its fairly straightforward...........hopefully the class will be taken off u next year....maybe u'll get to like it!
    mechanics and electromagnetism can be tricky...........get the exam papers and solutions from the previous years and study them.
    Is the physics lab well equipped?
    Will there be a high expectation from the students for doing experiments?
    high expectation=middle class school???
    anyway best of luck


  • #124
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,407 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Armelodie wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that the principal couldn't find someone qualified willing to teach this subject. i suspect hes using it to fill the ops cid hours.

    After those LC students have left the subject will be more than likely dropped. Otherwise he should just get in a qualified teacher with the intention of keeping it on.

    Maybe pay to train up the OP to get them recognised!

    I think we need to step back from the high moral ground here and look at how prevalent this practice used to be. for us to say to the OP you should our shouldn't do it is too difficult as we don't really know the ins and outs of their standing with the principal. I think it's bad that he was put in this position but on the other hand ' needs must ' and all that.


    Actually sometimes it is. Four or five years ago we could not get a teachers for physics and honours maths for a maternity leave for love nor money. We had no qualified applicants apply for the job. We ended up with a physics graduate, who had the subjects but no teaching experience.

    A neighbouring school has advertised a couple of jobs recently. One of those jobs which has two subjects (don't want to name subjects) one which is a core subject and the other is one less teachers would be qualified in. Despite the number of teachers being churned out at the moment, only 4 people have applied for the job that meet these requirements. I say this because my school will be advertising a maternity leave soon for the same subject combination so it leaves us wondering how many qualified applicants we will get.


  • #125
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Actually sometimes it is. Four or five years ago we could not get a teachers for physics and honours maths for a maternity leave for love nor money. We had no qualified applicants apply for the job. We ended up with a physics graduate, who had the subjects but no teaching experience.

    A neighbouring school has advertised a couple of jobs recently. One of those jobs which has two subjects (don't want to name subjects) one which is a core subject and the other is one less teachers would be qualified in. Despite the number of teachers being churned out at the moment, only 4 people have applied for the job that meet these requirements. I say this because my school will be advertising a maternity leave soon for the same subject combination so it leaves us wondering how many qualified applicants we will get.

    Things have changed!

    So what did u do in the end op and how is it working out for you, are you living like a physics leaving cert student yet!


  • #126
    crappyireland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 98 ✭✭crappyireland


    Hi Rainbowtrout. you mentioned that your school will be looking for a teacher soon, just wondering if the core subject would be English by any chance ? !!!!


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  • #127
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,785 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    try ringing up people who have applied for a job and a)they forgot they applied b)ask what the job is again and c) tell you that its not worth their while even though its the same thing as what was advertised!


  • #128
    Crazyteacher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Crazyteacher


    I think most keep some sort of record of jobs applied for so they know their stuff for if they get that call. I suppose there's always a few.


  • #129
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,407 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Crazyteacher wrote: »
    I think most keep some sort of record of jobs applied for so they know their stuff for if they get that call. I suppose there's always a few.

    Some people are incredibly flaky. Maybe not so much now with the way jobs have gone, but I know people who wouldn't move to remote places in the country (west of ireland) even if it was only for 6 months because they wanted to stay at home, even though the stint in the school would be valuable experience. Another teacher who wouldn't take a contracted job with longterm prospects in the midlands because they didn't want to live in the midlands but took a job that was only likely to last 1 year (and did only last one year). Another who was offered full hours (their own mainly) but it would have been a fair bit of resource, when they only wanted to be teaching higher level leaving certs in their subject area etc. Beggars can't be choosers but there are still people out there who will turn their noses up at a job that will get them into the system because it's not the ideal subject combination/hours/location.


  • #130
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    TheDriver wrote: »
    try ringing up people who have applied for a job and a)they forgot they applied b)ask what the job is again and c) tell you that its not worth their while even though its the same thing as what was advertised!

    In all fairness were only human, try applying for 50 or 60 jobs in a small window of time and see can you remember the details of each post, especially when you get a call out of the blue.:(

    Maybe you can answer this question, Why do schools not reveal their short-listing criteria to people who ask for it?


  • #131
    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Some people are incredibly flaky. Maybe not so much now with the way jobs have gone, but I know people who wouldn't move to remote places in the country (west of ireland) even if it was only for 6 months

    And, without digressing too much on this valid point, I know one permanent teacher in Dublin who would give the world to get a job teaching at home in Galway so that she can look after her increasingly ill mother. Each week she travels home and each week she comes back to Dublin the pressure to return becomes a visibly greater strain on her. There should be some DoES system in place to facilitate teachers, all of whom are paid by the DoES, to do this. My heart goes out to her, but I haven't a clue what to advise her.

    Roll on a centralised employment system for all teachers in Ireland.


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  • #132
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    So are you still teaching Physics OP?


  • #133
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    How are you getting on? If you ended up having to teach it.

    Which section did you start with?


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