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Farming Chit Chat II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Muckit wrote: »
    Isn't it 7-10 days I think?
    Can't see why it would be any more than roundup to be honest. I ask because lad spraying for me said 3 weeks because of the risk of decaying noxious weeds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    just do it wrote: »
    One of those age old questions - how soon after spraying for rushes with MCPA can I let cattle back in? No noxious weeds to worry about by the way

    I let cattle in ten days after spraying, year before last.
    No noxious weeds. No problems whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Heading to the vets with a dead dog to get a PM done. A bitch that i bought from a cousin to breed from, shes pupped five weeks and on saturday morning was 100% and as i was away that afternoon and out that evening i got a call from the oul fella to say the bitch was looking very poorly and lying under the trailer and not interested in her pups. Died by 9pm that night. This is the second dog this has happened to in the last few months, i'd got a young dog last year and in may this year he died within 12 hours of looking poorly, but i put it down to him eating at a ewe that had been given a large injection of trodax that the dead lorry was coming for. not too bothered about the bitch as she wasn't a great worker but now i've five pups to rear and more worried about my good dogs getting something. Speaking to a vet here in work and he says it doesn't sound like parvo as there was no scour or blood passed. just hope some fukker round about is not laying bait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    Billy never got a score in that all Ireland. Fairly sure he didn't even come on, but I may be wrong on that. Tom Dempsey was the scoring hero that day. The backs were the real stars though. It was the leinster final 1997 that Billy really exploded.

    I'm not a major GAA fan! Wasn't Billy on for the semi-final or which match was it that he came on around 60 minutes and scored a goal or two - the term super-sub was coined that time!

    And Wexford bet Limerick with 14 men too IIRC>
    just do it wrote: »
    One of those age old questions - how soon after spraying for rushes with MCPA can I let cattle back in? No noxious weeds to worry about by the way

    2 weeks I think it says on the can. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Heading to the vets with a dead dog to get a PM done. A bitch that i bought from a cousin to breed from, shes pupped five weeks ..
    Milk Fever ??? Just grasping at straws, BTW.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Heading to the vets with a dead dog to get a PM done. A bitch that i bought from a cousin to breed from, shes pupped five weeks and on saturday morning was 100% and as i was away that afternoon and out that evening i got a call from the oul fella to say the bitch was looking very poorly and lying under the trailer and not interested in her pups. Died by 9pm that night. This is the second dog this has happened to in the last few months,
    Could another neighbouring sheep farmer have left out poison? Or is that still a practice where stray dogs are an issue? Alternately have you any neighbour that might have rat poison out? If they don't have pets they mightn't be that careful with it? S*** thing to happen, best of luck with the pups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Heading to the vets with a dead dog to get a PM done. A bitch that i bought from a cousin to breed from, shes pupped five weeks and on saturday morning was 100% and as i was away that afternoon and out that evening i got a call from the oul fella to say the bitch was looking very poorly and lying under the trailer and not interested in her pups. Died by 9pm that night. This is the second dog this has happened to in the last few months, i'd got a young dog last year and in may this year he died within 12 hours of looking poorly, but i put it down to him eating at a ewe that had been given a large injection of trodax that the dead lorry was coming for. not too bothered about the bitch as she wasn't a great worker but now i've five pups to rear and more worried about my good dogs getting something. Speaking to a vet here in work and he says it doesn't sound like parvo as there was no scour or blood passed. just hope some fukker round about is not laying bait

    Ah thats crap, was she fully vaccinated? you should be able to look after those pups. Get puppy milk replacer and wetabix is the best for them. done it with my young bitch 18 months ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Up to 50pc. of Spring malting has been rejected this week as a result of high protein levels and green grain

    Tomorrow's Indo

    Wouldn't like to have taken out a contract to grow this stuff!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    reilig wrote: »
    Tomorrow's Indo

    Wouldn't like to have taken out a contract to grow this stuff!

    Is that cheap feed stuff for cattle now or what do they use it for ?I bet they wouldnt have rejected it last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    moy83 wrote: »
    Is that cheap feed stuff for cattle now or what do they use it for ?I bet they wouldnt have rejected it last year

    leave it for a few more weeks and hope protein would drop, twould be slow. mix with low protein stuff and wohla


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    reilig wrote: »
    Tomorrow's Indo

    Wouldn't like to have taken out a contract to grow this stuff!

    Which organisation though? Some of this may also be forward sold :(
    moy83 wrote: »
    Is that cheap feed stuff for cattle now or what do they use it for ?I bet they wouldnt have rejected it last year

    They did reject it last year too - due to wait for it low protein and also fusarium.

    I hadn't thought the incidence was that high!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    M50 - MCPA


    PRECAUTIONS
    KEEP LIVESTOCK OUT of treated areas for at least two weeks and until foliage of any poisonous weeds such as Ragwort has died and become unpalatable.

    DIRECTIONS FOR USE
    CAUTIONS
    DO NOT roll or harrow crops within seven days before or after spraying.
    DO NOT direct drill within three weeks into ground treated with M50.
    DO NOT CUT or graze for at least fourteen days after spraying. Dead foliage of poisonous weeds such as Ragwort must have dried out and become unpalatable. In fields intended for hay or silage, delay spraying until after the crops have been taken.
    DO NOT spray a seedbed prior to sowing.
    DO NOT spray grass within three months of germination, nor is it advisable to treat in the first year of a seeded ley or where re-seeding is being carried out.
    DO NOT spray established grassland where clovers are an important part of the sward. In situations where damage to clover is not acceptable, use Alistell.

    For control of weeds in established grassland - 3.5 litres in at least 200 litres water per hectare. On grassland where grass is covering weeds rate of use to be applied in at least 600 litres water per hectare.

    Established Grassland
    Spray before grass provides cover for weeds, the optimum time of spraying for the individual weeds is listed below:
    Creeping buttercup - Just before flowering or in the Autumn.
    Soft Rush - Spray when actively growing before flowering. Cutting rushes four weeks after spraying aids `


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Cut and paste the bits of interest re grassland


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    reilig wrote: »
    Tomorrow's Indo

    Wouldn't like to have taken out a contract to grow this stuff!

    Can you post a link reilig? I think the malting market is gone v small, AFAIK guinness import all theirs.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    any one going to Virginia show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,034 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    just do it wrote: »
    Could another neighbouring sheep farmer have left out poison? Or is that still a practice where stray dogs are an issue? .

    Such practices are illegal now on both sides of the border. I would get a PM done on the dog, especially if it is a second incident. Reckless illegal use of poisons is a serious threat to working dogs, pets,wildlife etc. not to mention the reputation of Irish farming, and needs to be stamped out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Richk2012


    Heading to the vets with a dead dog to get a PM done. A bitch that i bought from a cousin to breed from, shes pupped five weeks and on saturday morning was 100% and as i was away that afternoon and out that evening i got a call from the oul fella to say the bitch was looking very poorly and lying under the trailer and not interested in her pups. Died by 9pm that night. This is the second dog this has happened to in the last few months, i'd got a young dog last year and in may this year he died within 12 hours of looking poorly, but i put it down to him eating at a ewe that had been given a large injection of trodax that the dead lorry was coming for. not too bothered about the bitch as she wasn't a great worker but now i've five pups to rear and more worried about my good dogs getting something. Speaking to a vet here in work and he says it doesn't sound like parvo as there was no scour or blood passed. just hope some fukker round about is not laying bait

    Id a brought a bitch in from wales about 4 years ago and she got sick 2 weeks after whelping .
    Brought her to vet and he said she never cleaned properly and retained some of the afterbirth .

    Got septicemia and killed the litter of pups as poisioned them through the milk
    .
    She just about pulled out of it herself .

    Yours is to long whelped for that to be an issue id say but did you check her for mastitis ??

    If you have good dogs and dont have them vaccinated your crazy .
    Price of vaccination is nothing compared to a good dog


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,034 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Richk2012 wrote: »
    Id a brought a bitch in from wales about 4 years ago and she got sick 2 weeks after whelping .
    Brought her to vet and he said she never cleaned properly and retained some of the afterbirth .

    Got septicemia and killed the litter of pups as poisioned them through the milk
    .
    She just about pulled out of it herself .

    Yours is to long whelped for that to be an issue id say but did you check her for mastitis ??

    If you have good dogs and dont have them vaccinated your crazy .
    Price of vaccination is nothing compared to a good dog

    Very possible - a bitches immune system is naturally suppressed during pregnancy and while nursing pups. I've seen canine distemper kill pups and bitches in similar circumstances. Infection set in and killed like lightning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    not much of a heatwave in that forecast:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭DMAXMAN


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Can you post a link reilig? I think the malting market is gone v small, AFAIK guinness import all theirs.
    BOORTMALT supply Guinness as well as heiniken..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Back with a bang today, going to work was tough,
    What did I miss, is everyone still farming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    hugo29 wrote: »
    Back with a bang today, going to work was tough,
    What did I miss, is everyone still farming

    Not too many.days off at farming still.wouldn't give it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    hugo29 wrote: »
    Back with a bang today, going to work was tough,
    What did I miss, is everyone still farming

    were you off sick or paternity leave Hugo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Muckit wrote: »
    were you off sick or paternity leave Hugo?

    He was sampling the French market:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Kovu Murr wrote: »
    He was sampling the French market:cool:

    Checking the breeding stock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Muckit wrote: »
    were you off sick or paternity leave Hugo?

    Holidays for a while muckit, and work for a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Cousin said she was fully vaccinated and i have no reason to doubt him, she had fully cleaned and was suckling okay, no sign of mastitis.
    Have to take her to the government lab tomorrow as the vets couldn't do a toxicology report on her, they could only do a physical exam of her. All other dogs are fully vaccinated, like you say Richk vaccinations cheap where a good dogs concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 irish horse


    Cousin said she was fully vaccinated and i have no reason to doubt him, she had fully cleaned and was suckling okay, no sign of mastitis.
    Have to take her to the government lab tomorrow as the vets couldn't do a toxicology report on her, they could only do a physical exam of her. All other dogs are fully vaccinated, like you say Richk vaccinations cheap where a good dogs concerned.

    If the pups were five weeks old it could be a shortage off calcium in the bitch pups at that age are a large drain on the bitch she starts to pant shiver and goes in to shock needs drip from the vet and then comes around quickly .a bit like milk fever in cows. enclampsa. Not spelt right thought .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    DMAXMAN wrote: »
    BOORTMALT supply Guinness as well as heiniken..

    Ya dmaxman, you are right, me bad. Any idea what malting barley is making?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    whelan1 wrote: »
    not much of a heatwave in that forecast:cool:

    Nor much sign of a decent settled spell for harvesting, seems very hit and miss and a lot different to MT Craniums forecast :(


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