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Godless students

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    mickrock wrote: »
    Neither side has any factual knowledge of what happened but the more reasonable explanation or inference would be that intelligence was involved.
    i don't know where i left my favourite pair of flowery boxer shorts.

    the only logical conclusion is god must have taken them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Indeed - if the RCC ever introduced a whip system their ranks would be decimated after the first vote.

    Decimated implies being cut down by a tenth. I'd say it would also be closer to 10% left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    These threads are always hilarious, consisting of the stamping of feet and posters condescendingly declaring "people are atheist; they just don't know it/haven't got the balls to admit it."

    And what of these people who say they don't believe in God? There's a word for someone who doesn't believe in God. It escapes me at this exact moment if time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Decimated implies being cut down by a tenth. I'd say it would also be closer to 10% left.

    Nope. Decimated means mass destruction or killing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Jernal wrote: »
    Nope. Decimated means mass destruction or killing.

    It was an old Roman army thing, kill every tenth prisoner as an example or something like that. There's a clue in the name.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Sarky wrote: »
    It was an old Roman army thing, kill every tenth prisoner as an example or something like that.
    Without checking, I believe it was something the Roman Army did to discipline their soldiers -- line up the entire gang, then take out every tenth guy and kill him. They may have done it elsewhere too, but Gibbon did point out that one of the Roman Army's maxims was that the soldiery should fear their commanders at least as much as they should fear the enemy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    Without checking, I believe it was something the Roman Army did to discipline their soldiers -- line up the entire gang, then take out every tenth guy and kill him. They may have done it elsewhere too, but Gibbon did point out that one of the Roman Army's maxims was that the soldiery should fear their commanders at least as much as they should fear the enemy.

    Casually include a word in a throwaway remark and spark a debate on it's etymology.

    I love A&A.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I did Latin and school and you find the meaning of loads of words like decimate.

    Another great one is "Testimony".

    Now, my memory is a little hazy, but apparently there's some debate over whether it derives from:

    1) Testis, meaning 3rd party

    2) The act of cradling ones...er... self to prove you are not a eunuch or woman when giving evidence

    3) The fact that if you're found to be lying in a Roman court you'd have the wee fellas cut off. By testifying you were literally putting your balls on the line for someone.

    My mind says it's probably the first but my heart wants it to be the third. lol


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Casually include a word in a throwaway remark and spark a debate on it's etymology.
    Um...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Patsy McGarry notices the survey:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/major-disconnect-between-irish-students-and-catholic-church-a-random-poll-has-found-1.1497605
    A new poll has found that just 37.5 per cent of students who responded “state that they believe in God”, while 66 per cent “don’t believe that religion makes the world a better place”. Asked whether abortion should be allowed in Ireland, 83.5 per cent responded that it should.

    The survey was conducted among 1,146 students, chosen at random from more than 30 third-level institutions over the past two weeks. It found that while fewer than 60 per cent of respondents considered themselves Catholic, the second largest group was atheists at 20 per cent.

    The Student Marketing Network, which carried out the survey, concluded that this “highlights the differing attitudes of the student population from the country as a whole”, noting that in the 2011 census, “84.16 per cent . . . said they were Catholic”, while of the student sample “only 57.8 per cent would claim to be Catholic”.

    Asked whether they attended communal religious ceremonies and functions, 61 per cent of the students said No, while those who said Yes attended just one to three times a year. It also found that while 61.5 per cent of Catholic students took Communion, just 32.2 per cent of them believed it to be the body and blood of Christ. Of those students who did follow a religion, 45.2 per cent did so because of their parents’ influence.

    However, 40 per cent of respondents didn’t want their children to follow the same religion they were brought up with. Only 13.7 per cent followed a religion due to a strong faith. The students regard “looking good” (fifth) as more important than “religious beliefs” (sixth), with friends and family topping their list of importance.

    Colman Byrne, managing director of Student Marketing Network and oxygen.ie, said the survey showed “a major disconnect between organised religion and young people in Ireland.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    Um...

    I beg indulgence as I am mid hypo so it is (it's/i'ts/fish) amazing I can type at all...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    kylith wrote: »
    It's not that we don't like the idea, it's that there is absolutely zero evidence for it.

    And a lot of evidence agin' it. The fact that everywhere we've investigated and every answer we've found coming up "there is no need for a superior being for this to happen" is evidence against god, in and of itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,131 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's a discrepancy that doesn't bother me as long as that 80% stick to their beliefs when the time comes for them to vote on such issues. If they do then what religion someone associates with is irrelevant to me.

    In functioning secular democracies, no-one votes on 'such an issue' as the state has no involvement in religion and vice-versa.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Priest talks to his imaginary friend, contacts national newspaper about it.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/students-lack-of-belief-in-god-1.1503814


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    lazygal wrote: »
    Priest talks to his imaginary friend, contacts national newspaper about it.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/students-lack-of-belief-in-god-1.1503814

    Whoop, finally the IrishTimes should now accept my letter about me talking to my pet rock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭freyners


    lazygal wrote: »
    Priest talks to his imaginary friend, contacts national newspaper about it.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/students-lack-of-belief-in-god-1.1503814

    Its the same paper that allows John Waters to write discuss rant about his latest nonsense every week so I really shouldn't be surprised


    but seriously, what the unholy ****?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    mickrock wrote: »
    Neither side has any factual knowledge of what happened but the more reasonable explanation or inference would be that intelligence was involved.

    How is it more reasonable?

    By extension, when we didn't know how tunnelling of electrons was occurring (we still don't really - though we do know how to predict and control it) should we have assigned intelligent intervention to it? Was that more reasonable?

    Z


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