The chuggers have every angle covered now!

WoollyRedHat · 17-08-2013 03:54PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

flailing one's hands in the air..! :P:P

Sometimes I feel like saying "Lord I just don't care".

NuckingFacker · 17-08-2013 03:57PM

January wrote: »

Went into Superquinn yesterday to get a few bits and as I was coming out I was cornered by two chuggers, can't even remember what charity they were representing...

Anyways, I did the usual, told them I had no money on me only my card... well no problem said Mr. Chugger as he pulled out a credit card machine! There goes my excuse!

I never get chugged..the missus says it's my happy visage that deterrs them. I like to think I have perfected psychic communication - "Feck off, feck off."

Skylinehead · 17-08-2013 04:20PM

donegal. wrote: »

sumup is useless , can't take visa

Their site says it can.

NuckingFacker · 17-08-2013 04:26PM

Out of the entire, ohh, dozen or so people on Boards, someone must work as a chugger - you never hear the other side. How come there aren't "I was out chugging and some wan rammed me with her buggy, knocking me over and then stood on my hand with her heel. FFS People these days.." threads?

Vicar in a tutu · 17-08-2013 04:31PM

January wrote: »

Meh, it's easier than having to say no cos if you say no they usually trail you shouting at you.

That's disgraceful, luckily that's never happened me because I have quite an angry face, but if it happens again you need to tell them you'll be reporting them to whoever they work for etc, that's harassment. It's people like that, that put you off donating money.

conor2469 · 17-08-2013 04:42PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Just say you've already signed up and then walk away.

I tried that, it doesn't work.
They just asked how much am I currently signed up for and would I like to sign up for more.

IrishExpat · 17-08-2013 04:57PM

Pang wrote: »

I'm still using the 'I'm only 17' line if I get caught by these parasites.

Seconded. Despite a full fuzzy beard etc, always use this to effect.

Bastards.

Dr.MickKiller · 17-08-2013 05:02PM

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

OP you could always say you dont have your wallet on you/left it in the car,at home etc , thereby covering your cards and cash as not being on you and having no means to give to the chuggers :P

While carrying a couple of bags of shopping? Haha, must try that.

Peregrine · 17-08-2013 05:13PM

I just keep walking, turn around quickly and say 'Oh sorry can't talk, I'm in a hurry'.

If they whipped out a credit card machine, just tell to piss off. No way should anyone have to swipe their credit card in some chugger's machine.

Was this in Blanch?

17-08-2013 05:20PM

3 of them today with their buckets in the middle of the main road in Abbeyfeale, Co Limerick. Seriously dangerous spot to be chugging. The ironic part was that they were collecting for suicide awareness.

RachaelVO · 17-08-2013 06:05PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

This.

When I'm in college I pass through town every day, along routes populated by Chuggers, As soon as one catches my eye and starts their spiel, I say "Sorry, have a good one" in a reasonably friendly tone, without breaking my stride. I'd guess I've had this interaction hundreds of times over the years, and never once has it failed to get them off me.

This is why I roll my eyes when I see people weeping big salty tears over having to deal with Chuggers. I guess they might be a bit intimidating for some older people, but a healthy adult has no reason to be so upset by them. Stop making a conscious effort to be annoyed by things.

Bang on, just say sorry, not interested. You don't need an excuse, its your money, and you worked hard for it so it's up to you what you do with it. There's no need to be rude, aggrieved or come up with a bogus excuse, just say you're not interested.

Malari · 17-08-2013 06:21PM

I've never been hassled by a chugger. I always just give them a pitying smile and say "no thanks" and they move on.

Only one guy ever said "you don't even know what I'm going to ask you!" in response, so I told him his Concern bib gave me my first big clue. He laughed and that was it.

Maybe they don't make them as tough down the country...

Snowie · 17-08-2013 06:25PM

January wrote: »

Went into Superquinn yesterday to get a few bits and as I was coming out I was cornered by two chuggers, can't even remember what charity they were representing...

Anyways, I did the usual, told them I had no money on me only my card... well no problem said Mr. Chugger as he pulled out a credit card machine! There goes my excuse!

And my excuse is no thanks I e no idea who you are and I'm not giving you my c/c details.

Generally I jut give them a look of complete loathing they don't bother.

Keith300 · 17-08-2013 06:40PM

I hate when people say "they are just doing their job". So what, when you're interests are opposed you must do what you have to for yourself.

Imagine telling a boxer that his opponent is "only doing is job". So what, that boxer's job is to knock you out so you have defend yourself and knock him out first. In another time and place you could be friends with your opponent, but not in the ring, in the ring you are enemies.

Cool Mo D · 17-08-2013 06:44PM

In a certain way, I think chuggers are doing the country a favour by giving us all plenty of practise in saying "no" all the time. The more you say it, the easier it gets.

It's like free assertiveness training, street style.

salmocab · 17-08-2013 06:57PM

People don't need to use excuses such as no money, i'm 17, i'm already signed up just say no and keep walking its real easy these people don't have super powers just keep strolling and if they keep hassling roar F*ck off at them. They are not worth lying to, once you have said no if they don't leave you alone they are scum and should be treated as such.

Feathers · 17-08-2013 07:00PM

Cool Mo D wrote: »

It's like free assertiveness training, street style.

Except if you're not assertive, you'll probably say yes: so you won't learn anything & pay €20/mth for the privilege!

quinrea01 · 17-08-2013 07:02PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Who the fcuk would give their credit card to a guy on the street to swipe.

FFS.

The same naive and retarded ones who actually give their private bank details to a complete stranger on the street. These chiggers are too weazely by far. While passing a group of yellow jacketed -Amnesty, I think- chuggers earlier this week I overheard the very animated team leader tell his minions to make sure to get the 'target' smiling....or even better...laughing. 'That's half the battle', he wisely informed them. Barstewards !!!

Pace2008 · 17-08-2013 07:03PM

whirlpool wrote: »

If you ignore a chugger on the street, it can feel like what has happened is that someone has publicly pointed you out as someone who has decided to ignore/refuse a request to donate to charity.

Of course this can make that person feel uncomfortable. I'm happy for you that you've been able to overcome that feeling or you've never felt that way, but a lot of people might and I think it's a completely understandable reaction to feel uncomfortable around them.

I'm not an especially assertive person and I'm quite empathetic to boot, so I can see where you're coming from. Chuggers are a relatively new phenomenon, and the first few times I was approached I'd hear them out before going on my way. But when you're going to be dealing with them every day you're just going to have to get used to turning them down, which is easy when it amounts to nothing more than a quick "Thanks but no thanks" or a derivative thereof. Practice makes perfect, and if I ever felt bad about walking on by, the feeling has certainly faded with time. I feel pretty confident in saying that, at this stage, Chuggers have been around long enough that no one's going to think any lesser of you for giving them the polite cold shoulder.

Keith300 wrote: »

I hate when people say "they are just doing their job". So what, when you're interests are opposed you must do what you have to for yourself.

Imagine telling a boxer that his opponent is "only doing is job". So what, that boxer's job is to knock you out so you have defend yourself and knock him out first. In another time and place you could be friends with your opponent, but not in the ring, in the ring you are enemies.

Well that's a ridiculously antagonistic view of the situation. These people are not "enemies;" they are, at the worst, a very very very minor inconvenience that can be dealt with without having to put oneself out in any way.

mrsoundie · 17-08-2013 07:09PM

Hownowcow wrote: »

Expect to see more of it.

https://sumup.ie/?gclid=CISdq4_JhLkCFYw72wodcSgALg

I am shocked. :eek:

Pang · 17-08-2013 07:11PM

I have to say I detest them, especially since the time this guy from Barnardos chased me into Stephen's Green. Some of them are incredibly aggressive, especially the male ones.

Is there nothing that can be done to get them off the street?

I thought those PAWs people were bad enough a couple of years ago, but now chuggers are everywhere and they seem to love small, narrow streets where you can't avoid them like on Parnell Street.

Keith300 · 17-08-2013 07:13PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

I'm not an especially assertive person and I'm quite empathetic to boot, so I can see where you're coming from. Chuggers are a relatively new phenomenon, and the first few times I was approached I'd hear them out before going on my way. But when you're going to be dealing with them every day you're just going to have to get used to turning them down, which is easy when it amounts to nothing more than a quick "Thanks but no thanks" or a derivative thereof. Practice makes perfect, and if I ever felt bad about walking on by, the feeling has certainly faded with time. I feel pretty confident in saying that, at this stage, Chuggers have been around long enough that no one's going to think any lesser of you for giving them the polite cold shoulder.

Well that's a ridiculously antagonistic view of the situation. These people are not "enemies;" they are, at the worst, a very very very minor inconvenience that can be dealt with without having to put oneself out in any way.

Just an analogy. If you don't want to give them money and they want to acquire your money then your interests conflict.

So tell them no, you owe them nothing.

mrsoundie · 17-08-2013 07:14PM

I think from now on I will tell them, "I am also collecting for a charity."

They will ask "which one?"

And I will reply, "the battered chuggers charity."

They will say, "that does not exist."

"It will in a minute", I cheerfully reply.

Pace2008 · 17-08-2013 07:15PM

Keith300 wrote: »

Just an analogy. If you don't want to give them money and they want to acquire your money then your interests conflict.

So tell them no, you owe them nothing.

Fair enough. no arguments there.

traindude · 17-08-2013 07:28PM

A bank transfer is not charity, never will be.

Real charity is giving up time for people, not money. Time is something nobody wants to give up.

Giving yourself to others, spending time with difficult family members, people in the community who need help, that's real charity, and the most difficult. But of course has the most impact, and is the most rewarding.

These yellow jacket amnesty liberal hippies really get my blood boiling, with their guilt complex. Go compensate somewhere else, hippy.

It's always easier to 'love humanity' (a concept) than love your neighbor (a person). It's always easier to 'love and care' for those far away than those next door.

Me gusta · 17-08-2013 07:30PM

January wrote: »

Went into Superquinn yesterday to get a few bits and as I was coming out I was cornered by two chuggers, can't even remember what charity they were representing...

Anyways, I did the usual, told them I had no money on me only my card... well no problem said Mr. Chugger as he pulled out a credit card machine! There goes my excuse!

I find if you just say “no thanks" they just say no problem and walk away.I don't know if there's some law or rule but it always works.

RobbingBandit · 17-08-2013 07:35PM

Stink palm every time they get too in your face, totally worth the hours of scrubbing with bleach afterwards.

Rezident · 17-08-2013 09:41PM

January wrote: »

Went into Superquinn yesterday to get a few bits and as I was coming out I was cornered by two chuggers, can't even remember what charity they were representing...

Anyways, I did the usual, told them I had no money on me only my card... well no problem said Mr. Chugger as he pulled out a credit card machine! There goes my excuse!

How about: "I only give to volunteers, not profit-making agencies".

You know they take up to 30% of the donations for themselves? If you actually want to give to a charity give to it directly so they actually get all the money.

COYVB · 17-08-2013 09:44PM

Rezident wrote: »

If you actually want to give to a charity give to it directly so they actually get all the money.

Even that's not something that happens too often

languagenerd · 17-08-2013 09:51PM

Who the hell gives their credit card/bank details to a stranger on the street?! I don't care if you have a charity bib on, how can I be 100% sure you are who you say you are? But people must be giving them money, because why else would they still be on the streets 5 years later? If they weren't getting money from it, the charities would stop sending them.

I understand that charities need money, but they shouldn't be allowed hassle people on the streets. You should be able to walk down the main streets of your home town without 5+ people demanding money off you. No issue with someone standing with a collection bucket or a table where you can choose to approach them, but I'm sick of constantly being asked for money (even though I just ignore them).

STOP GIVING THEM MONEY, PEOPLE!!

The chuggers have every angle covered now!

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