Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

Vic Vinegar · 16-08-2013 11:53PM

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Why are we even talking about Ozil? Might aswell talk about Iniesta or Xavi...

Not really, they haven't been linked to us and Ozil has (well, Xavi nearly signed for us years ago)

CastingCouch · 16-08-2013 11:53PM

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Why are we even talking about Ozil? Might aswell talk about Iniesta or Xavi...

A few places have mentioned it though. Madrid may well want Bale and mightn't have the money for him. ESPN say Utd contacted Madrid about Modric or Ozil. One of these could well be sold.

Mikeyt086 · 16-08-2013 11:54PM

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Why are we even talking about Ozil? Might aswell talk about Iniesta or Xavi...

We are talking about Mesut Ozil because the latest talk, gossip and rumours are that Real Madrid have offered him to us.

Have a peek at the title of the thread there.

Now, I don't believe it, but I'm going to talk about it.

Adamcp898 · 16-08-2013 11:55PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I really don't like the "We don't need Ozil, we have Kagawa!" line.

Look, I'm one of Shinji's biggest fans, I think he is a star, but jesus, Mesut Ozil is legitimately one of the most talented players in the world, and if he were to come in we would rejoice as he wins us game after game. Why can't Shinji and Ozil play in the same team? Cheslea have Hazard, Oscar and Mata, all similar players who interchange to great effect, but they had nobody consistent in front of them (I think Lukaku is their man now tbh). If we were to fit Kagawa, Rooney and Ozil behind Robin Van Persie??? Are you ****ing ****ting me? That is the most absolutely petrifying attack around (that doesnt have Ronaldo or Messi in it) and would **** the goals in game after game. If we are offered Mesut Ozil, one of Real Madrid and Germany's very best players, we absolutely bite their stupid hands off.

I just think it's more journo bull****. It's too common at this stage. X have been offered Y, X are interested in Y, these guys are trying to sell papers. Sometimes they get a genuine tip about something that is about to go down, but if they let out how rare that is, they would have a tough time selling their warez in papers and websites. That's why we so nearly got Thiago, just a few contract details... Oh no wait, we never actually made an offer to Bayern.

I believe absolutely nothing anymore. If it turns out to be true, wow, shocker, now I'll think about it and deal with it. But I am so absolutely sick of reading absolute dross containing guesswork as to who we are trying to sign that I'm prepared to say **** it, I'm getting Carrick 16 on my home shirt, not waiting for a new signing, and if someone holds a shirt up in front of the red bricks at Old Trafford I'll welcome them with open arms... And a few open tabs of xtube if it's someone of the calibre of Mesut ****ing Ozil.

I agree with you when you criticise people who say they would hate to see Ozil or a player of his ilk at the club. I remember getting ridiculously excited when David Gill had apparently traveled to Craven Cottage to meet with Werder Bremen officials when they were playing a Europa League qualifier against Fulham.

But I think what a lot of people mean is they hate the idea that the funds meant for the type of midfielder we actually need are going to be blown on a type of player that isn't near priority number 1 and not necessarily that they hate Ozil.

Too Tough To Die · 16-08-2013 11:59PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

We are talking about Mesut Ozil because the latest talk, gossip and rumours are that Real Madrid have offered him to us.

Have a peek at the title of the thread there.

Now, I don't believe it, but I'm going to talk about it.

Thread title should read "outlandish rumours". Come on, get real.

Rayne Wooney · 17-08-2013 12:00AM

To be fair Mikey, most of the people who said we don't need Ozil went on to say that we need to sign a CM first, which is true. We could have the best attacking lineup in the world but not having a top class midfielder to partner Carrick would lead to us being overrun in every game.

I'd be absolutely ecstatic if we signed Ozil if there was a guarantee that a CM would also be signed.

Mikeyt086 · 17-08-2013 12:09AM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

I agree with you when you criticise people who say they would hate to see Ozil or a player of his ilk at the club. I remember getting ridiculously excited when David Gill had apparently traveled to Craven Cottage to meet with Werder Bremen officials when they were playing a Europa League qualifier against Fulham.

But I think what a lot of people mean is they hate the idea that the funds meant for the type of midfielder we actually need are going to be blown on a type of player that isn't near priority number 1 and not necessarily that they hate Ozil.

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I was properly gutted when Real signed him. I got all giddy over the Fulham stuff.

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Thread title should read "outlandish rumours". Come on, get real.

Get real?

Twice I said I don't think it's true. Still don't like seeing people turn their nose up as Ozil.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

To be fair Mikey, most of the people who said we don't need Ozil went on to say that we need to sign a CM first, which is true. We could have the best attacking lineup in the world but not having a top class midfielder to partner Carrick would lead to us being overrun in every game.

I'd be absolutely ecstatic if we signed Ozil if there was a guarantee that a CM would also be signed.

I see what your saying, I get that. But honestly, I think if we were to sign Ozil, and fail to find the right CM, we would still be a significantly better side than we are now. So good that players like Cesc would be all like:

And if Moyes doesn't like any of the CM's within our reach, and we get the chance for a big player somewhere else, we've got to bring them in anyway, regardless of that hole beside Carrick.

RobertKK · 17-08-2013 12:11AM

Hopefully some player Ronaldo wants to play with are signed...I am sure United have been linked with all the players Ronaldo likes playing with at RM including di Maria.
btw did you see the pictures of Ronaldo's legs and the veins sticking out, looked :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR0trV5CMAECUKS.jpg:large

sea_monkey · 17-08-2013 12:11AM

People go crazy over Osman.

People then disregard Ozil.

I don't understand.

CastingCouch · 17-08-2013 12:13AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Hopefully some player Ronaldo wants to play with are signed...I am sure United have been linked with all the players Ronaldo likes playing with at RM including di Maria.
btw did you see the pictures of Ronaldo's legs and the veins sticking out, looked :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR0trV5CMAECUKS.jpg:large

That is sick.

Adamcp898 · 17-08-2013 12:24AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

......

A+ for illustrations.

Pro. F · 17-08-2013 12:33AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I really don't like the "We don't need Ozil, we have Kagawa!" line.

Look, I'm one of Shinji's biggest fans, I think he is a star, but jesus, Mesut Ozil is legitimately one of the most talented players in the world, and if he were to come in we would rejoice as he wins us game after game. Why can't Shinji and Ozil play in the same team? Cheslea have Hazard, Oscar and Mata, all similar players who interchange to great effect, but they had nobody consistent in front of them (I think Lukaku is their man now tbh). If we were to fit Kagawa, Rooney and Ozil behind Robin Van Persie??? Are you ****ing ****ting me? That is the most absolutely petrifying attack around (that doesnt have Ronaldo or Messi in it) and would **** the goals in game after game. If we are offered Mesut Ozil, one of Real Madrid and Germany's very best players, we absolutely bite their stupid hands off.

None of Rooney, Ozil or Kagawa are as good as Nani when playing out wide. I'd take Nani in that fantasy line up in one of the wide positions over those three any day. And it's reasonable to think that Zaha has a good chance of developing into a world class winger too. So why not just stick with Nani, Kagawa, Rooney, Zaha, Welbeck, Young, Valencia, Januzaj, etc? That's more than enough talent for three starting positions. The point is, if we were to go buying players like Ozil when we don't actually need them then the young players like Zaha and Adnan wouldn't get a fair chance to develop and the world class players we already have, like Nani, would get pushed out.

Look what happened with Chicharito last year. Most fans were saying that RvP absolutely had to be bought if he was available. He was bought and he did great. And Chico didn't get enough game time as a result, that's a bad thing. The same type of thing would happen if Ozil was bought now.

Mikeyt086 · 17-08-2013 12:43AM

Pro. F wrote: »

None of Rooney, Ozil or Kagawa are as good as Nani when playing out wide. I'd take Nani in that fantasy line up in one of the wide positions over those three any day. And it's reasonable to think that Zaha has a good chance of developing into a world class winger too. So why not just stick with Nani, Kagawa, Rooney, Zaha, Welbeck, Young, Valencia, Januzaj, etc? That's more than enough talent for three starting positions. The point is, if we were to go buying players like Ozil when we don't actually need them then the young players like Zaha and Adnan wouldn't get a fair chance to develop and the world class players we already have, like Nani, would get pushed out.

Look what happened with Chicharito last year. Most fans were saying that RvP absolutely had to be bought if he was available. He was bought and he did great. And Chico didn't get enough game time as a result, that's a bad thing. The same type of thing would happen if Ozil was bought now.

I admit that Nani slipped my mind. If he was to get back to the start of 11/12 form then he rotates in with one of those 3. However, if he were to continue as he did last season (I don't think he will, but he could) then that's not an issue.

I still think Ozil is too big a player to turn down. I know it would impact time for the likes of Zaha, Young, Welbeck, Adnan and even Chich but a player as good as him is worth it. Someone like Willian, I don't think it's worth it.

As for Chicharito, RVP did have to bought, I don't think we would win the league without him. And if you offer me Ozil having as big an impact as he did with the sacrifice of minutes for Zaha et al, I'd take it. We need to be competing for the Champions League this season, Ozil helps us immediately, which in turns gives David Moyes a better chance of early success to ease the inevitable pressure on him. While giving more gametime to Zaha and Adnan (who I love) could be great in the long run, it might make Moyes job a bit tougher.

I like your points though, and it certainly is an interesting conundrum... If it's not a steaming pile of bull****. :pac:

Kylo Ren · 17-08-2013 01:41AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Gotta have a thank for getting a picture of the Ders in there.

Mikeyt086 · 17-08-2013 02:15AM

Keno 92 wrote: »

Gotta have a thank for getting a picture of the Ders in there.

This place has been pretty loose butthole lately.

(seriously thought it's maybe my favourite show of all time)

17-08-2013 04:09AM

Pudsy33 wrote: »

I will set up a united fans one and post the code here

Code is

1881455-464359

Nice one, fair play James!

:pac:

joe316 · 17-08-2013 07:57AM

stankratz wrote: »

Nice one, fair play James!

:pac:

Cheers for that, anyone have the boards one handy?

homerjay2005 · 17-08-2013 09:33AM

feels like Christmas eve.....the waiting and waiting until 5.30 is killing me.

SlipperyPeople · 17-08-2013 09:37AM

What are United fans thoughts on if Zaha will start or come off the bench today?

mrmanunited · 17-08-2013 09:37AM

joe316 wrote: »

Cheers for that, anyone have the boards one handy?

Pretty sure this is the code you need

MagicIRL wrote: »

The Boards.ie League from last year is: 4506-13781 according to THE GAFFER. I was auto-added to this league from being a member last year it seems.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/my-leagues/31751/standings/

mewe · 17-08-2013 09:40AM

Pudsy33 wrote: »

I will set up a united fans one and post the code here

Code is

1881455-464359

Thanks man

Crimson King · 17-08-2013 10:13AM

1-0 away win today, with the Dutch master grabbing an early goal, thats my prediction.

MagicMarker · 17-08-2013 10:16AM

Win if Carrick plays, draw or loss if he doesn't

IamtheWalrus · 17-08-2013 10:18AM

Upgraded to Sky Sports (had downgraded for the Summer). Find out Liverpool game isn't on Sky. Fail.

Cantona's Collars · 17-08-2013 10:29AM

Sky Sports 1 is free today on Sky channel 121 (normally Sky2).

No streams needed for the game for Sky customers who don't have SkySports sub.

Zico · 17-08-2013 10:47AM

Soccer AM is still unwatchable drivel. If anything it might have gotten worse. That Tubes guy is just too creepy for a Saturday morning.

Cantona's Collars · 17-08-2013 10:49AM

hungoverbunny wrote: »

What are United fans thoughts on if Zaha will start or come off the bench today?

Not too many options on the wing this weekend so I reckon he'll start.

IamtheWalrus · 17-08-2013 10:52AM

Zico wrote: »

Soccer AM is still unwatchable drivel. If anything it might have gotten worse. That Tubes guy is just too creepy for a Saturday morning.

It does make you wonder who its target audience is.

Dacelonid · 17-08-2013 10:59AM

Probably not the right place to ask this, but I think it is the best seeing as ye guys should know.
Where's the best place/site to buy the official jersey for kids(1 yr old and 2 yr old) with name/number printing.
I've tried 3 times to buy them in different bricks and mortar stores and each time they couldn't do the printing (either missing a number or missing letters or more likely in my opinion just didn't want to do it) So I have given up on shopping locally and keeping my money in the local economy and just need to buy these jerseys now (birthday presents), so wheres the best place to buy them.
As I said officially licenced jerseys, not the cheap knock offs.
Thanks
Dace

NUTZZ · 17-08-2013 11:00AM

Zico wrote: »

Soccer AM is still unwatchable drivel. If anything it might have gotten worse. That Tubes guy is just too creepy for a Saturday morning.

It really was poor, I liked the Beckham segment though.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

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