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Do you support the Dublin Bus workers?

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  • #962
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Someone posted this John Cleese video on another thread, which relates here pretty well, regarding the Communist bashing nonsense:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhPMQnWu4


  • #963
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,316 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Valmont wrote: »
    They are supposed to provide us, the tax-payers, with a service. They are now refusing to do even their basic duties because they want to take even more money from us for a service that wouldn't last a day in a free and open marketplace.

    How anyone can support such parasitism is beyond me.

    How do they want to take more money from us?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #964
    neuvoculchie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭neuvoculchie


    Alot of dublin bus drivers are cnuts espically when your not from dublin and dont understand how to pay


  • #965
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0816/468628-dublin-bus-ballot-result/

    What G*****tes !


  • #966
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Two of the largest trade unions at Dublin Bus have voted to reject a Labour Court proposal to end a dispute over the company's plan to save €11.7m.

    SIPTU workers rejected the deal by 72% to 28%.

    Members of the National Bus and Rail Union voted against it with a margin of 67% to 33%.

    It is unclear if strike action will recommence or if both sides will return to the Labour Court.

    Workers went on a three-day strike over cost-cutting at the company two weeks ago.

    After that, a proposed deal was struck between unions and management at the Labour Court. But union members have now voted to reject that document.

    SIPTU Sector Organiser Willie Noone said: "It is quite clear that the drivers in Dublin Bus are not willing to accept the cost cutting measures as outlined in the Labour Court recommendation and subsequent adjustments to it."


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  • #967
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    They get paid better than an Airline Pilot:eek:

    Sack the lot of them its an easy job driving a bus.


  • #968
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,053 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Hootanany wrote: »
    They get paid better than an Airline Pilot:eek:

    Sack the lot of them its an easy job driving a bus.

    A Pilot must be on a very low wage then.

    Who will drive the bus when you sack them?


  • #969
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Ok can someone please post how much Dublin bus drivers take home each week in there pay packets,thanks.


  • #970
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Hootanany wrote: »
    They get paid better than an Airline Pilot:eek:

    Sack the lot of them its an easy job driving a bus.

    Do you mean sack the pilots and get them to drive the buses ?


  • #971
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,053 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    realies wrote: »
    Ok can someone please post how much Dublin bus drivers take home each week in there pay packets,thanks.

    On a flat week and basic only , i know some that are only taking home less than €500.


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  • #972
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    On a flat week and basic only , i know some that are only taking home less than €500.
    Gross or net pay?


  • #973
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    On a flat week and basic only , i know some that are only taking home less than €500.

    So with roughy 50% pad n tax, €1000 gross per week = €52,000 basc per year. Benefts, overtime, etc probably taking that up to about €68,000 ?


  • #974
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    ixoy wrote: »
    Gross or net pay?

    They dont get to take home their gross. Taxman gets hs cut first.


  • #975
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    On a flat week and basic only , i know some that are only taking home less than €500.


    Thanks Hilly bill, now do you know if any bus drivers do a flat week and what average is the take home pay for drivers, average like..just trying to get to a few truths here.


  • #976
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,062 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Almaviva wrote: »
    So with roughy 50% pad n tax, €1000 gross per week = €52,000 basc per year. Benefts, overtime, etc probably taking that up to about €68,000 ?
    What now? There are tax credits and tax bands you know. It'd be nothing like that.


  • #977
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Ryanair Pilots are on about 30k DB on about 52k, I know who I would trust ridicules pay.
    A Pilot has to train and fund it himself, I have zero respect for Gougers.


  • #978
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Ryanair Pilots are on about 30k DB on about 52k, I know who I would trust ridicules pay.
    A Pilot has to train and fund it himself, I have zero respect for Gougers.

    Where are you getting that for the drivers? That's what I've seen posted as the average wage for Dublin Bus overall. Just because the drivers are the bigger group of it, doesn't mean they are all getting something so close to the average.


  • #979
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Jesus, when figures are posted can people at least give a link to some dubious website or another to support them?! Figures pulled from arses can be discarded


  • #980
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Dave! wrote: »
    Figures pulled from arses can be discarded

    Not sure. Precedence suggests in fact that the state pays out multiples of arse-pulled figures. DB drivers know this.


  • #981
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    So with roughy 50% pad n tax, €1000 gross per week = €52,000 basc per year. Benefts, overtime, etc probably taking that up to about €68,000 ?

    One page back.


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  • #982
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    I hope the useless bástards go on strike again and this time Leo immediatly deregulates all bus services, see how the lazy fukers like them apples!


  • #983
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Honestly, if bus drivers earn whatever, fair play to them. I wouldn't drive a bus to save my life. In fact it's good I don't drive a bus.

    I don't understand the way the people on boards bash other people's occupations. There's no easy job. Jobs are jobs. If you think someone has the dream job, why did you not do that job in the first place. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

    People have a right to strike.

    Workers have rights too.


  • #984
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Honestly, if bus drivers earn whatever, fair play to them. I wouldn't drive a bus to save my life. In fact it's good I don't drive a bus.

    I don't understand the way the people on boards bash other people's occupations. There's no easy job. Jobs are jobs. If you think someone has the dream job, why did you not do that job in the first place. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

    People have a right to strike.

    Workers have rights too.



    You do understand that Bus fares are expensive so these wages can be paid.


  • #985
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Aineoil wrote: »
    People have a right to strike.
    Workers have rights too.

    They do. But with rights come responsibilities not to abuse those rights.


  • #986
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Would love to see union reaction to deregulation.


  • #987
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,385 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Ryanair Pilots are on about 30k DB on about 52k, I know who I would trust ridicules pay.
    A Pilot has to train and fund it himself, I have zero respect for Gougers.

    Any proof to both of those claims?


  • #988
    Herb Powell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Ryanair Pilots are on about 30k DB on about 52k, I know who I would trust ridicules pay.
    A Pilot has to train and fund it himself, I have zero respect for Gougers.

    Ryanair pilots have it ****, so so should everyone else?

    Not a great argument.


  • #989
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Operating a far Superior machine.


  • #990
    cdebru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭cdebru


    Hootanany wrote: »
    So with roughy 50% pad n tax, €1000 gross per week = €52,000 basc per year. Benefts, overtime, etc probably taking that up to about €68,000 ?

    One page back.


    Did you ever work for Anglo ? Your ability to pluck figures from the nether regions is uncanny.


    Drivers basic pay is 38,500 including shift allowance, which nets to about 28,000 after tax prsi usc etc, before anyone jumps up and down that is still too much, for most it is less than they could get on social welfare with rent allowance.


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  • #991
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Sack the lot of them, deregulate and let a proper company take over.
    lazy,greedy , shower of ner do wells:mad:


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