Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

bad2dabone · 15-08-2013 04:38PM

i just can't take that he’d move to the team in 11th place in the bunesliga, vs us where with a good season he would be competing against his direct rival for a place in the brazil team – Sandro at spurs.

brianregan09 · 15-08-2013 04:40PM

Are we not playing the Spuds 2nd of September ?

gnfnrhead · 15-08-2013 04:42PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

i just can't take that he’d move to the team in 11th place in the bunesliga, vs us where with a good season he would be competing against his direct rival for a place in the brazil team – Sandro at spurs.

Same as Vertonghen in that he doesnt want competition, he just wants to be an automatic starter. Otherwise, why would he even leave Bayern?

L'prof · 15-08-2013 04:42PM

brianregan09 wrote: »

Are we not playing the Spuds 2nd of September ?

Sunday 1st I think.

15-08-2013 04:44PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

i just can't take that he’d move to the team in 11th place in the bunesliga, vs us where with a good season he would be competing against his direct rival for a place in the brazil team – Sandro at spurs.

Jesus didn't realise they were 11th. That's like choosing Fulham over Arsenal, crazy. Wonder how an 11th place Bundesliga team can afford 120k a week wages too (rumoured).

bad2dabone · 15-08-2013 04:47PM

sorry i don't know what position they occupy currently but they finished 11th last season.

TheGunns · 15-08-2013 04:48PM

AdamD wrote: »

Jesus didn't realise they were 11th. That's like choosing Fulham over Arsenal, crazy. Wonder how an 11th place Bundesliga team can afford 120k a week wages too (rumoured).

Only 18 Bundes teams, it's lower down than choosing Fulham. Until he's confirmed there I wouldn't give up hope on him coming to the Emirates

Gringo180 · 15-08-2013 04:48PM

Wolfsburg were only in the champions lge a few years back if I remember correctly? Dzeko played for them as well before he came to City.

Paleface · 15-08-2013 04:51PM

They are bankrolled by Volkswagon.

greendom · 15-08-2013 04:59PM

It's now 6pm in Germany - would they hold press conferences so late ? Perhaps there's been a gunner shaped spanner in the works ?

batistuta9 · 15-08-2013 05:00PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Same as Vertonghen in that he doesnt want competition, he just wants to be an automatic starter. Otherwise, why would he even leave Bayern?

this isn't directly to you

when does it become the player doesn't want competition rather than them doing the best thing for themselves & their career?

Awesomeness · 15-08-2013 05:03PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Wolfsburg were only in the champions lge a few years back if I remember correctly? Dzeko played for them as well before he came to City.

So like liverpool then

Bounty Hunter · 15-08-2013 05:15PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

sorry i don't know what position they occupy currently but they finished 11th last season.

They are 16th but then again that only means they lost 1 game (2-0 iirc) because last weekend was the start of the league here. They did win the league a few seasons ago and do have money but as others have said its the playing time that most seem to think is the big thing for him in this world cup year especially now that he has a starting spot in the Brazil side since the confederations cup. That said he hasnt officially moved anywhere yet

15-08-2013 05:19PM

If he goes to Wolfsburg its for money. He could get a lot of gametime at plenty of CL clubs, but Wolfsburg are willing to pay him double his current wages, which Bayern surely have no interest in matching, and other clubs I'd guess haven't either. For the same wages I highly doubt he chooses Wolfsburg over us or Napoli. Gametime is a BS excuse imo, hes gonna get that no matter where he moves.

Bounty Hunter · 15-08-2013 05:31PM

AdamD wrote: »

If he goes to Wolfsburg its for money. He could get a lot of gametime at plenty of CL clubs, but Wolfsburg are willing to pay him double his current wages, which Bayern surely have no interest in matching, and other clubs I'd guess haven't either. For the same wages I highly doubt he chooses Wolfsburg over us or Napoli. Gametime is a BS excuse imo, hes gonna get that no matter where he moves.

Maybe it's not just one factor, Extra pay while staying in Germany where he is happy and getting his game every match could be what would sway him if it sways him and it wouldnt neccesarily show a lack of ambition but a different set of priorities. I hope Arsenal sign him but also get the feeling that some Arsenal supporters are already preparing themselves to say that he wasnt the right player anyway simply cos he maybe decided not to choose them because that alone shows he isn't the sort they would want. I'd say most Arsenal fans would happily take Vertonghen despite the fact that he didnt want to fight with his mate Vermaelen at CB for a starting spot last year. That certainly didnt mean he wasn't good enough.

emergingstar · 15-08-2013 05:43PM

I think he is choosing them for more playing time and a better chance to make the World Cup team which of course is in his homeland

More power to him could be the best move he ever makes

emergingstar · 15-08-2013 05:44PM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Maybe it's not just one factor, Extra pay while staying in Germany where he is happy and getting his game every match could be what would sway him if it sways him and it wouldnt neccesarily show a lack of ambition but a different set of priorities. I hope Arsenal sign him but also get the feeling that some Arsenal supporters are already preparing themselves to say that he wasnt the right player anyway simply cos he maybe decided not to choose them because that alone shows he isn't the sort they would want. I'd say most Arsenal fans would happily take Vertonghen despite the fact that he didnt want to fight with his mate Vermaelen at CB for a starting spot last year. That certainly didnt mean he wasn't good enough.

Imagine vertonghen and kos partnership

~Rebel~ · 15-08-2013 05:51PM

Dzeko would be a good signing for Arsenal, but I'm not sure it would make sense for City. There were only 5 points between the teams last season, and as much as City would be somewhat confident of pushing on again this season with some of the signings they've made, it wouldn't look like a great idea to strengthen a rival. Especially when there are other clubs interested, and City don't particularly need the cash.

15-08-2013 05:51PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I think he is choosing them for more playing time and a better chance to make the World Cup team which of course is in his homeland

More power to him could be the best move he ever makes

I'd say 40 games for Arsenal, with CL matches is more use to him than 45 games for a mid table side in the Bundesliga. With CL and all of the cups we play in, and with the PL being larger, he'd get similar game time here tbh. I really don't buy that argument at all.

For me its either:
a) Money
b) Staying in Germany
c) Combination of both

FearDark · 15-08-2013 05:52PM

We are a laughing stock.

emergingstar · 15-08-2013 06:00PM

AdamD wrote: »

I'd say 40 games for Arsenal, with CL matches is more use to him than 45 games for a mid table side in the Bundesliga. With CL and all of the cups we play in, and with the PL being larger, he'd get similar game time here tbh. I really don't buy that argument at all.

For me its either:
a) Money
b) Staying in Germany
c) Combination of both

I don't see him getting 45 games been honest

overpronator · 15-08-2013 06:55PM

FearDark wrote: »

We are a laughing stock.

Its been that way for years in fairness.

Alfred Borden · 15-08-2013 07:15PM

Our bench will be Fab, Podolski, Ox and maybe Jenko if Sagna is fit. What a disgrace.

emergingstar · 15-08-2013 07:17PM

Least we get too see what jack and Ramsey are like in midfield together

.jacksparrow. · 15-08-2013 07:18PM

Reading arteta is out for 6 weeks, lets hope its bs.

Alfred Borden · 15-08-2013 07:18PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Least we get too see what jack and Ramsey are like in midfield together

wont work though, as we have seen Arteta is essential to this team.

speedboatchase · 15-08-2013 07:20PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Reading arteta is out for 6 weeks, lets hope its bs.

Surely this might implore us to just fire money in Gustavo's direction?

greendom · 15-08-2013 07:21PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Least we get too see what jack and Ramsey are like in midfield together

I hope they work well together. It not our Champions League campaign could be over by the time Arteta returns

Alfred Borden · 15-08-2013 07:21PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Surely this might implore us to just fire money in Gustavo's direction?

Looks to late, Wolfsburg manager seems confident its close to being done. Flamini returns.

Alfred Borden · 15-08-2013 07:22PM

we have 14/15 fit first team players for these qualifiers, what happens if we pick up a knock or two on saturday?

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