Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

tayto lover · 14-08-2013 03:00PM

What would the thinking be on Wenger if we fail to make proper additions to the squad?

If the vast majority of fans can see that we're light on numbers then why can't Wenger?

I think we will see signings and feel that there has to be business being done in the background.

Anything less would be suicide for Wenger. Fans would start venting at games at the first sight of failure and momentum would grow.
Wenger has everything to lose and nothing to gain by not signing players.

ugsparky · 14-08-2013 03:01PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I think that says more about the referees and how much they are prepared to put up with unfortunately.

Weekly we see him swearing at referees. I for one do not like that as it shows petulance and poor manners. Not someone to have around young players at all.

He would cause trouble in the dressingroom in my opinion.

I didn't say I was his biggest fan and like yourself I think his attitude stinks - but unfortunately the days of gentlemanly conduct in Premiership football are long gone - Keane, Scholes, Terry, Lampard ... all mouthy ... even our own Jack can be a bit too lippy. I do think that if rooney was given a purpose and believed he was playing to bring glory to Arsenal and England then Arsene could control him. Keep the aggression but channel it - many players have said they see Wenger as a Father type figure who have helped an encouraged them ... we've had a few players who were not purer than white ...

14-08-2013 03:04PM

gosplan wrote: »

But there's a clear pattern over the last two years of us signing players after the CL qualifier when we're in one.

According to Wikipedia the only player signed last season after qualifying was a Macedonian lad for the academy. 2 years ago it was 1 point from 9 and getting embarrassed that got things moving.

tayto lover · 14-08-2013 03:05PM

ugsparky wrote: »

I didn't say I was his biggest fan and like yourself I think his attitude stinks - but unfortunately the days of gentlemanly conduct in Premiership football are long gone - Keane, Scholes, Terry, Lampard ... all mouthy ... even our own Jack can be a bit too lippy. I do think that if rooney was given a purpose and believed he was playing to bring glory to Arsenal and England then Arsene could control him. Keep the aggression but channel it - many players have said they see Wenger as a Father type figure who have helped an encouraged them ... we've had a few players who were not purer than white ...

I agree you need a certain amount of aggression on the field and have said that it's something we are lacking. Keown, Adams. Bould, Winterbourne, Dixon, Bergkamp and many others would go through you for a short-cut BUT just bad manners and abuse of referees a la Rooney is not acceptable.

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 03:06PM

ugsparky wrote: »

I didn't say I was his biggest fan and like yourself I think his attitude stinks - but unfortunately the days of gentlemanly conduct in Premiership football are long gone - Keane, Scholes, Terry, Lampard ... all mouthy ... even our own Jack can be a bit too lippy. I do think that if rooney was given a purpose and believed he was playing to bring glory to Arsenal and England then Arsene could control him. Keep the aggression but channel it - many players have said they see Wenger as a Father type figure who have helped an encouraged them ... we've had a few players who were not purer than white ...

yea viera was well able to control it

ugsparky · 14-08-2013 03:08PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

I think Arsene should ring Alex up and say Alex, return the favor.

Rooney.

25m.

do it.

... That would be Alex Moyes

...

I was trying to figure why Moyes has done nothing yet ... I think he went after Cesc to replace Scholes/Giggs - no real threat to Rooney

Why no one else? No Fellani - no attacking player/midfielder as this would threaten his place further ... could it be that he's trying to keep Rooney but Rooney wants to go? The fans have certainly turned on him ... I think Arsene is still interested ...

bad2dabone · 14-08-2013 03:09PM

i suspect fergie encouraged the intimidation of refs by players.

bad2dabone · 14-08-2013 03:10PM

ugsparky wrote: »

... That would be Alex Moyes ...

ah fergie's still involved there

L'prof · 14-08-2013 03:11PM

Paulegend wrote: »

yea viera was well able to control it

Never affected his play. Much rather another Vieira than a Suarez, but seeing as we're stuck I'd bite yer hands off...

...was that terribly bad or terrible good? I dunno

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 03:14PM

L'prof wrote: »

Never affected his play. Much rather another Vieira than a Suarez, but seeing as we're stuck I'd bite yer hands off...

...was that terribly bad or terrible good? I dunno

lol

i dont think rooneys temper affects his play either to be fair. only thing that kills suarez rooney and even viera was their ability to get sent off. that been said it doesnt happen to suarez as much as the other two

bad2dabone · 14-08-2013 03:15PM

Paulegend wrote: »

that been said it doesnt happen to suarez as much as the other two

suarez has never been sent off for liverpool.

(still got banned for 18 games)

ugsparky · 14-08-2013 03:16PM

Vieira was a pussy ... did you never see Peter Storey playing for the Gunners? - he'd shove Billy Bremners head up Paddy's arse whilst taking lumps out of John Terry ...

ugsparky · 14-08-2013 03:18PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

i suspect fergie encouraged the intimidation of refs by players.

I suspect Refs encouraged the intimidation of Refs by Fergie ...

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 03:21PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

suarez has never been sent off for liverpool.

(still got banned for 18 games)

never been red carded. his attitude gets him into trouble but rooney and vieras attitude got them sent off ALOT

bad2dabone · 14-08-2013 03:23PM

Paulegend wrote: »

never been red carded. his attitude gets him into trouble but rooney and vieras attitude got them sent off ALOT

true, but its part of what makes them the players they are.

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 03:28PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

true, but its part of what makes them the players they are.

oh it is completly

i would have loved someone like roy keane or viera at liverpool during our "teble season" we could have pushed on for the title if we had that bit of stealy troublemaker in midfield back then.

im not a fan of suarez's antics but there is no denying he gets results and wins games by himself. nobody outside united liked ronaldo when he was delivering titles. it goes back to even dicanio shearer hutchinson cantona and so on. players get into trouble because they want to win. doesnt make them right in what they do and sometimes it can be cringeworthy (lehmann and drogs i think it was) but their will to get a slight edge to win every single game is what makes them the best

FearDark · 14-08-2013 03:53PM

**** sake. Yet again we go into the season still searching for players. Its an absolute crime. If Mr Wenger had a normal job like you and I he would be sacked for incompetance. Im absolutely **** sick of it.

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 04:08PM

FearDark wrote: »

**** sake. Yet again we go into the season still searching for players. Its an absolute crime. If Mr Wenger had a normal job like you and I he would be sacked for incompetance. Im absolutely **** sick of it.

there is no proof that he has been given that money to spend though to be fair. how do you know its wenger not willing to spend and its not really the board?? after all they wouldnt go a few more million for higguain. the. there was the alleged breaking the release clause on fellani

Marty McFly · 14-08-2013 04:11PM

Paulegend wrote: »

there is no proof that he has been given that money to spend though to be fair. how do you know its wenger not willing to spend and its not really the board?? after all they wouldnt go a few more million for higguain. the. there was the alleged breaking the release clause on fellani

Wenger decides How much to spend and How much he is willing to offer, we've been over this; )

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 04:12PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Wenger decides How much to spend and How much he is willing to offer, we've been over this; )

but dont the board have to santion it??

Marty McFly · 14-08-2013 04:17PM

Paulegend wrote: »

but dont the board have to santion it??

Of coarse they tell him his budget and finalise the deals, but it is up to Wenger entirely what he does with that budget and how much he allocates on a single bid. Every reporter with a link to the club or person close the club are all agreed on this. Gazidis himself said it to be so.

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 04:19PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Of coarse they tell him his budget and finalise the deals, but it is up to Wenger entirely what he does with that budget and how much he allocates on a single bid. Every reporter with a link to the club or person close the club are all agreed on this. Gazidis himself said it to be so.

makes no sense as to why he isnt bidding though

FearDark · 14-08-2013 04:19PM

Wrnger has money. He doesnt know how to spend it.

darego · 14-08-2013 04:21PM

wrong thread

Marty McFly · 14-08-2013 04:22PM

Paulegend wrote: »

makes no sense as to why he isnt bidding though

But he has been bidding? Case in point Suarez. But Wenger sets his own valuations on players and has tendency to penny pinch. I've already read today it's not dick law or Gazidis holding up deals but Wenger.

Alfred Borden · 14-08-2013 04:27PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23695857

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 04:29PM

Raf32 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23695857

if you read the article youll notice it says nothing to warrant the headline

shano_88 · 14-08-2013 04:32PM

Paulegend wrote: »

if you read the article youll notice it says nothing to warrant the headline

Your right. Its a really strange headline after reading the article. Unusual from the BBC.

Alfred Borden · 14-08-2013 04:33PM

Paulegend wrote: »

if you read the article youll notice it says nothing to warrant the headline

Its from his quotes after the match in the Kyodo paper.

Paulegend · 14-08-2013 04:36PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Its from his quotes after the match in the Kyodo paper.

there where no quotes. if there where they would have been quoted in that article.

it was a story made from the twitter crap spouted on here earlier. it was changed once it was realised it was all rubbish

there are no quotes

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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