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The Sun drops topless Page 3 pictures from Irish edition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    This will be handy market research for the UK edition. If sales pick up then no doubt, page 3 will be dropped in the UK too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    We don't need it anymore, we see all the topless girls we need to see at almost any beach in Ireland now, when the sun shines. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I like topless girls and I like adult content.

    But I like to read newspapers in public without concerning myself with who may or may not be around me. I don't buy the Sun because of the topless girls and other semi-inappropriate ads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    The comments those models used to give in the caption was fairly accurate and articulate.ill be missing their short commentaries of current affairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    I feel sorry for anybody who still buys The Sun newspaper, the only newspaper that comes with a cut-out to torment a mentally unstable man.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/11/paul-gascoigne-the-sun-drinking


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    most of them are wrecked anyway
    Now now Eden, stop lying.
    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    My mother always bought the sun when I was younger, there was a page three as far back as I can remember, we were far more culturally prudish back then than now so I don't see how it is anything to do with that, this was the 90's.
    Been a page 3 since the 70s.
    UCDVet wrote: »
    I like topless girls and I like adult content.

    But I like to read newspapers in public without concerning myself with who may or may not be around me. I don't buy the Sun because of the topless girls and other semi-inappropriate ads.
    Despite your opening sentence, prepare to be told you are a prude, a victim of the catholic church's conditioning and have hang-ups about women's bodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Sounds like a 'pc decision' to me.
    I'm sure all the grannies and holy joes were crying out for years to get it removed. It's only a pair of tits. The Sun was known for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Tomorrow's headline "Thanks for the mammaries"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    My own thinking on this is that they're slowly trying to monetize the online versions of The Sun and Page3.com. I regularly buy the Sun, purely because it's a bit of entertainment for €1.

    Of course I look at page 3 (Lucy Collett, say no more! :D), then I'll have a laugh at the "problem" pages, and then I'll read whatevers in between.

    I don't tend to take it seriously and I know well it's a rag newspaper, but fcuk it, gives me a bit of a laugh. People shouldn't take it so seriously.

    Would the absence of page 3 make me reconsider purchasing it? I have to be honest it probably will. I like a nice bod and a fresh face as much as the next person!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Taxi drivers and truck drivers of the world lament!

    The sun is an absolute rag. I've tried to read it but it just annoys me. Irish Times ftw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    realies wrote: »
    No more Sam fox. I remember been told about her :D

    Sam Fox, Linda Lucardi and a few others had smouldering sexuality, coupled with wit, charm, voluminous curves and prettiness with innocence and alluring and I'm glad I lived through them live, so to speak.

    My wife blames them for our seven children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    I just thought, if they take out our cultural differences, then we might as well buy the Evening Echo, I don't believe we ever saw a tit there unless wildlife photographer Richard Mills took it.

    Maybe I could be editor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Slightly off topic but anytime there's an art-heist or an art-forgery scandal the Sun always sends their dedicated fine-arts correspondent, the wonderfully named Toulouse Le-Plot. Oh, I'll miss Rhiann Sugden, she always had something good to say about the news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    It's a rag anyway. Should'nt be called a newspaper in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    nutjob feminists once again ruin something beautiful

    There are many things I would call "beautiful" in this world, the sun is not one of them, with ot withotu page 3.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Sam Fox, Linda Lucardi and a few others had smouldering sexuality, coupled with wit, charm, voluminous curves and prettiness with innocence and alluring and I'm glad I lived through them live, so to speak.

    My wife blames them for our seven children.

    Sam Fox was only 16 when she first appeared (weren't they literally doing a ountdown to her birthday..?) - kinda weird considering their attitude towards today's laws about photos of topless 16 year olds.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    This makes no difference to anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I like topless girls and I like adult content.
    Despite your opening sentence, prepare to be told you are a prude, a victim of the catholic church's conditioning and have hang-ups about women's bodies.
    I don't believe anyone will question a perfectly natural sexual attraction towards an aesthetically pleasing female form. But I wonder why we don't have the same hangups when a rippling 6-pack on a guy is used to sell a popular soft drink, yet the mere display of areola + nipple prompts hysterics. Both are sexually attractive to the respective opposite (and occasionally same) sex, but one is considered 'taboo'.
    lertsnim wrote: »
    This will be handy market research for the UK edition. If sales pick up then no doubt, page 3 will be dropped in the UK too.
    I doubt it. The reasoning behind the decisions in both countries aren't entirely the same.
    Red Nissan wrote: »
    We don't need it anymore, we see all the topless girls we need to see at almost any beach in Ireland now, when the sun shines. :p
    We never "needed" it. Page 3 didn't fill a gap in the market, instead it perpetuated the nonsense that nudity was something to be shocked at, and only done by those "crazy Europeans"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Sam Fox was only 16 when she first appeared (weren't they literally doing a ountdown to her birthday..?) - kinda weird considering their attitude towards today's laws about photos of topless 16 year olds.

    And what year was that? Don't judge by today's standards.

    Actual child sex [ 12 and under] was legal in some countries back then too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    I don't believe anyone will question a perfectly natural sexual attraction towards an aesthetically pleasing female form. But I wonder why we don't have the same hangups when a rippling 6-pack on a guy is used to sell a popular soft drink, yet the mere display of areola + nipple prompts hysterics. Both are sexually attractive to the respective opposite (and occasionally same) sex, but one is considered 'taboo'.
    Dunno. Boobs are deemed more sexual than the male chest, whether that's reality or just conditioning. Mammary glands are sex organs I guess.

    Why is the bush less taboo than the penis in mainstream films? (Showing of an erect penis in mainstream film isn't allowed at all, AFAIK).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Sam Fox was only 16 when she first appeared (weren't they literally doing a ountdown to her birthday..?) - kinda weird considering their attitude towards today's laws about photos of topless 16 year olds.


    They weren't doing any countdown afaik. Her mother took photos of her when she was 16 to send to the Sunday People and she was spotted then by The Sun newspaper.

    Now 30 years later we're not living in the same world. It's hardly as weird as 500 years ago when we thought the world was flat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    We never "needed" it. Page 3 didn't fill a gap in the market, instead it perpetuated the nonsense that nudity was something to be shocked at, and only done by those "crazy Europeans"

    On the contrary, page three was loved but both men and women, it went through phases but publishing a picture of a naked woman can hardly be seen as
    instead it perpetuated the nonsense that nudity was something to be shocked at

    Now though, it is showing Ireland up as something with cultural differences and a fear of a feminine backlash feared rife in Ireland. Market research has suggested for the last few years that women buy newspaper much more than men.

    Put two and two together, presumably they are acting on the same research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Dunno. Boobs are deemed more sexual than the male chest, whether that's reality or just conditioning. Mammary glands are sex organs I guess.

    Why is the bush less taboo than the penis in mainstream films? (Showing of an erect penis in mainstream film isn't allowed at all, AFAIK).

    Boobs are not sex organs, but one can call them that because started to cover them up. They had not been 'sexual organs' in naked tribes until the missionaries put clothes on them. So you have a lot of support and documented support for your idea. {though boob are not sexual organs}.

    The other part is covered by law. The essence is that a naked woman does not put her sexual organs on display to the camera in full frontal shots, but the male does, so is not allowed. No erection at all is allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Dunno. Boobs are deemed more sexual than the male chest, whether that's reality or just conditioning. Mammary glands are sex organs I guess.
    Conditioning I would say. Breasts are no more a sex organ than facial hair on a guy (or pubic hair on either sex). A sign of sexual maturation perhaps but not a sex organ.
    Why is the bush less taboo than the penis in mainstream films? (Showing of an erect penis in mainstream film isn't allowed at all, AFAIK).
    Perhaps because a bush hides more of the female external genitalia than say pubic hair on a guy does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    They weren't doing any countdown afaik. Her mother took photos of her when she was 16 to send to the Sunday People and she was spotted then by The Sun newspaper.

    Now 30 years later we're not living in the same world. It's hardly as weird as 500 years ago when we thought the world was flat.

    What about David Bailey, he testifies to discovering her and publishing 'Darkling' ~ with out Googling, I'm not familiar with the timeline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    And what year was that? Don't judge by today's standards.

    Actual child sex [ 12 and under] was legal in some countries back then too.
    Czarcasm wrote: »
    They weren't doing any countdown afaik. Her mother took photos of her when she was 16 to send to the Sunday People and she was spotted then by The Sun newspaper.

    Now 30 years later we're not living in the same world. It's hardly as weird as 500 years ago when we thought the world was flat.

    A quick google tells me it was Charlotte Church and Emma Watson... so a bit more recent.

    As regards "times changeing" the Sun always built itself up on a sense of conervative moarlity: thinking that a person suddenly became sexually avialable overnight is hardly a moral issue then or now, regardless of what laws may have changed.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 151 ✭✭jay92


    Honest to christ I hate feminists..just **** off ye prunes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Who cares anymore? If you want to see some tits, or more, just google them on your phone

    They have pictures of tits on phones now? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    What about David Bailey, he testifies to discovering her and publishing 'Darkling' ~ with out Googling, I'm not familiar with the timeline.


    Sorry Nissan, you went right over my head there. I googled, but nothing jumped out at me apart from David Bailey being a British photographer, never heard of him before now tbh :o


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Black Leather


    Its a great pity that The Sun has dropped the long standing tradition of the page 3 topless girl. I will certainly miss seeing those beautiful ladies showing off their magnificent breasts. Bring back our page 3 topless girls!


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