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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    Yeh but in the same manner as RVP, Suarez has just effectively ended his time at Liverpool. It;s no certainty he will end up at Arsenal right now im sure if Chelsea or City were to come in he would quickly forget about Arsenal but as of now we seem to be the only club interested, what club in Europe has even sniffed in his direction? Madrid seem focused on Bale and Suarez and an alternative should in the unlikely event it fails.

    What Arsenal need to do now really is fcuk being patient and act quick.

    We should make an offer tomorrow. Add on another few million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?
    We can sell him, so yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?

    It's the message it sends out as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭meriwether


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?

    There will be a statue of him outside the emirates yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?

    If he helps us attract better players which signing a player of his caliber would, it would put us back on the map and if he helps Arsenal make that step up to the next level then yes most certainly :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?

    Yep. Totally. With him well make the money back in cl Revenue. Without spurs take our spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    keano_afc wrote: »
    We'll probably all be back here in a years time when he tells the Guardian he wants to leave Arsenal because we promised him a trophy, calling him all sorts. Is it worth spending £45m+ on a player we're probably only gonna see for 2 seasons max?

    Well we should've bought Higuain but we didn't. We can't afford to go through this summer having failed to land both Higuain and Suarez, especially when possible targets have left during the saga that the latter has become. It'll all end in tears but we need Suarez and he needs us - unless Real make a bid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Looper007 wrote: »
    I assume they want to get as much money so they can get over 50 for him. Arsenal will pay it and they can go out for a big signing. selling him for 30 million would be crazy.

    They'd be far better off £20m down than selling one of the best strikers in the league to the team they're trying to catch. Really they're quite fúcked until someone else comes in for him. Even Chelsea or city. Hell, even united would be a better destination for him than arsenal. Their star striker is acting the dick and trying to force his way out and join the one club they don't want to sell to. They're more fúcked than arsenal were last season with van Persie and united.

    Also what big signing could pool go for? I did not want Suarez a month ago but it's got to the stage now where there's no-one else left. I think they'd be mad to turn down an offer of £30m from abroad if the only alternative is to sell to arsenal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    They'd be far better off £20m down than selling one of the best strikers in the league to the team they're trying to catch. Really they're quite fúcked until someone else comes in for him. Even Chelsea or city. Hell, even united would be a better destination for him than arsenal. Their star striker is acting the dick and trying to force his way out and join the one club they don't want to sell to. They're more fúcked than arsenal were last season with van Persie and united.

    Also what big signing could pool go for? I did not want Suarez a month ago but it's got to the stage now where there's no-one else left.
    Well if they put him in the reserves and arsenal buy another striker, they now have minus world class striker with no money to buy one and we would have strengthened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Well if they put him in the reserves and arsenal buy another striker, they now have minus world class striker with no money to buy one and we would have strengthened.

    Why would they do that? If nobody else is interested I think they'll have to sell. I'd just say they're praying somebody else does come in, even if it means selling on the cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    They'd be far better off £20m down than selling one of the best strikers in the league to the team they're trying to catch. Really they're quite fúcked until someone else comes in for him. Even Chelsea or city. Hell, even united would be a better destination for him than arsenal. Their star striker is acting the dick and trying to force his way out and join the one club they don't want to sell to. They're more fúcked than arsenal were last season with van Persie and united.

    Also what big signing could pool go for? I did not want Suarez a month ago but it's got to the stage now where there's no-one else left.

    Last summer we had finished 3rd, United had finished 2nd. People forget that. And yet we sold the player of the season to them for £25m and they finished 19 pts ahead of us. We spent half the fee on Giroud, who is half the player that RVP is.

    By comparison, Liverpool will get at least £40m and have already identified Douglas Costa as a new signing. It's a better deal than we got, although we were timid fools to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭dvemail


    Anyone else feel that all Madrid had to do is come in with a bid of 35m and we are "left holding our dicks"?

    Haven't heard anyone else say that nugget in a while.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    They'd be far better off £20m down than selling one of the best strikers in the league to the team they're trying to catch.
    That's only assuming they'll actually catch us (and Spurs... and Everton) if they keep Suarez, which is a pretty big assumption. With him they were some way off, and there's a possibility he'd be a disruptive influence in the team and might not replicate last season's form.

    He'd improve us (at least for a while!), but if they aren't going to overtake us then it makes no difference, and with the money they got from the sale they could sign a couple of promising players who down the line could leave them in a better position to get back into the CL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    dvemail wrote: »
    Anyone else feel that all Madrid had to do is come in with a bid of 35m and we are "left holding our dicks"?

    Haven't heard anyone else say that nugget in a while.

    They're pre-occupied but in a week or so I could see that. Especially if Morata is part of the Bale deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    No, this is a public forum.

    Your 2nd point makes no sense and sounds silly tbh.

    If you were so concerned about whats going on at Arsenal where have ye been for the last few years? Ye are just pissing off the Arsenal fans with ye're dribble and from what I've see/read alot of the regular posters are staying away.

    Understandably imo.

    The Pool should just get rid of him, playing hard ball with Wenger isn't going to work. I can see Arsenal offering "Double-your-money" £45m but not a penny more.

    Liverpool are just buying time with the hopes of another major club coming in for Suarez and try to get a bidding war going. Who that club is I dont know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭mada999


    Looper007 wrote: »
    and helps us win a league.

    classic :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    With stadium redevelopment to fund and consecutive 40million losses on the books they should take the Money from Arsenal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    With stadium redevelopment to fund and consecutive 40million losses on the books they should take the Money from Arsenal.


    Jebus, are things that bad at Liverpool?


    Any links?


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you were so concerned about whats going on at Arsenal where have ye been for the last few years? Ye are just pissing off the Arsenal fans with ye're dribble and from what I've see/read alot of the regular posters are staying away.

    Understandably imo.

    The Pool should just get rid of him, playing hard ball with Wenger isn't going to work. I can see Arsenal offering "Double-your-money" £45m but not a penny more.

    Liverpool are just buying time with the hopes of another major club coming in for Suarez and try to get a bidding war going. Who that club is I dont know.

    Not at all. In fairness it's a transfer that involves both clubs. Anyone is entitled to post constructively in here once they're not acting the dick.


    I'm not sure will 45 be enough tbh


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Jebus, are things that bad at Liverpool?


    Any links?
    Liverpool's financials are pretty confusing as they recently changed their accounting period and reported results for 10 months instead of 12, but their 2011/12 results were a loss of about £40m as I recall. It'll all be on Swiss Ramble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭dvemail


    Sooner this is all over so we can focus on getting others in the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Interesting that he could be doing all this to make his move to Madrid easier probably why he hasn't handed in a transfer request yet.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    With stadium redevelopment to fund and consecutive 40million losses on the books they should take the Money from Arsenal.

    Liverpool are in line to make small profit this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Liverpool are in line to make small profit this year.

    Yeah selling Suarez to us :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    I kind of feel bad about this one because Suarez is doing exactly what RVP did with his personal statement. He's basically trying to force the move through and massively massively weakening Liverpool's position.

    I would be satisfied if he handed in a transfer request and forewent any loyalty bonus or anything else.

    All that said, it's great for us.

    This is a massive mess for Liverpool. It will dominate everything there until resolved. 40 million to make this mess go away must be beginning to look good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    Jebus, are things that bad at Liverpool?


    Any links?
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/mar/04/liverpool-accounts-debt-ian-ayre


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Liverpool are in line to make small profit this year.

    £40m loss plus the £40,000,001 sale of Luis Suarez = £1 profit.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Liverpool are in line to make small profit this year.
    The TV money increase alone isn't far off


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    We could be getting played here badly.


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