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Mignolet / Boruc
Johnson Ivanovic Walker Garrido Collins
Hazard Snodgrass Morrison Santi-Cazorla Hoolahan
Bony Lukaku Sturridge
Going 3 4 3 formation with Garrido, Collins and Holohan to be on the bench. Though might swap Hoolohan in for Morrison
First time doing Fantasy, feel free to tear it to shreds...
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Okay, with the double gameweek and likelihood that Bale is away to Real Madrid, I've started from scratch and come up with the below:
Reasoning:
Goalkeeper:
Cech for the double gameweek. He's probably the only Chelsea coverage at the back that is guaranteed to play the 180 minutes (injury/suspension aside).
Defenders:
Nastastic is out for around 4-6 weeks according to reports today, meaning that Lescott will get the nod to play alongside Kompany as things stand. He has the potential to chip in with the odd goal from a set piece and a City defender will be fancied to keep some clean sheets in their opening games.
Arsenal had the second best defense in the league last season and Mertersacker's partnership with Koscienly was a vital part of that. It's one of the other for me as both are the same price, but Mertersacker is my choice as things stand, mostly because he seems less likely to succumb to an injury.
Coleman won't keep many clean sheets but will play on the right hand side of midfield in a 3-4-3 formation. He had 4 goals and 4 assists the last time he played in a similar position (116 points altogether) and should see a similar return this year. I most likely will only have him for a few weeks anyway, see plan below.
I always play 3 at the back except for the very odd time, so my two substitute defenders won't have to perform miracles. As of yet I don't know if either will start to be honest, but I'll change them for different players as and when I know more. Two £4.0m defenders from teams that rotate well (Hull and Palace do so for the entire season) should bail me out a bit when I'll rarely need them to.
Midfielders:
Hazard and Walcott were a couple of the first names on the team sheet for me and remain so. Both ranked in the top 5 highest scoring midfielders in the game last season and I would expect both to follow suit this coming season. They're both expensive in terms of midfielders, but you get what you pay for.
Mirallas is someone I hadn't really considered at the beginning, but thanks to the help from members on this forum and reading about him elsewhere, he looks to be a great differential and someone that I don't think many in my private leagues will have either. He'll play on the right hand side of the 3 up front in a 3-4-3 formation and has been in superb form in pre-season. I know that doesn't count for much, but he has form in the league, scoring 6 goals and 5 assists playing on the wing in a very, very rigid 4-4-1-1 under Moyes last year.
I'll be honest, I'm unsure about Coutinho's value at £9.0m, but Liverpool have a great start and he is guaranteed to play and has contributed 3 goals and 7 assists in only 900 odd minutes of play last season. Depending on how he and Liverpool start, he's another one I may only use for a short while which I will outline in my plan, but perhaps Gerrard may be a better option given the set piece aspect and I'd expect him to do quite well with the new bonus point system.
Jerome Thomas will be bench fodder for the vast majority of the season in my team, but has been given a free role by Holloway according to reports and his task will be to attack, attack, attack. He contributed 3 goals and 8 assists when playing every week under Hodgson at West Brom a few years ago, so I do see him as the best of the £4.5m sub options, but if Morrison starts playing every week for West Ham (who have great fixtures to start) that may be debatable given his pre-season form (which, again, doesn't mean much I know).
Strikers:
This is where it gets tricky with so many options and the Spain friendly in outer Mongolia 10 minutes before the first game of the season.
I absolutely love Soldado and, presuming Bale goes, I'll certainly have him in my team given his record and Spurs' fixtures.
I want some sort of City coverage in my strikeforce, and although we don't know who will start, I'm happy to take a punt on the man they spent £20m on. You don't spend that sort of money on a soon to be 28 year old if he doesn't figure to be a key part of your team IMO.
I cannot stand Darren Bent but I learnt very quickly not to let your heart rule your head in this game, and Bent has a record that far exceeds his £6.5m price tag. 24 and 17 goals the last two seasons he was first choice with 9 as a bit part player the following year thanks to injury/selection issues, and if his Fulham move materialises as it seems 99% sure it will, he will play every week with Berbatov in the number 10 role behind him, which is sure to bring about numerous chances, and Bent has made his living off finishing goalscoring chances.
Plans:
Cech out for Mignolet. This gives me £1.0m to invest elsewhere and not a huge difference in clean sheet potential. Most probably this will mean Coleman to Rafael when United's fixtures easy up a bit and his suspension is served.
Keep an eye on Coutinho's performances and the United midfield. United's quartet of wingers come in at very respectable prices. If it becomes clear that Nani (£7.5m), Valencia (£7.5m), Young (£7.5m) or Zaha (£6.5m) or even Kagawa (£8.0m) are first choice, then a Coutinho to one of the above move would save me possibly £1.0m-£1.5m to invest elsewhere, most likely up front.
Difficulties:
Spain's friendly. Although my saving grace here might be the fact that Spurs don't play until the Sunday and City until Monday night giving me extra recovery time, I could have a situation where two of my main strikers don't even play much if at all in the first gameweek.
I'm banking on Bent getting his move and playing straight away and time is running out for that to happen. I do expect the move to happen eventually but it may happen nearer the deadline and not having played any senior pre-season games with Villa, Fulham may ease him in.
Overall:
Overall, I'm quite happy.
Goalkeeper, defence and midfield seems to be spot on IMO (unless I've missed something obvious which could easily happen) with the main question marks over the strikers ability to fire from day one.
Something that I will consider over the next few days is perhaps chancing starting with three strikers who are guaranteed to play (eg, Bony, Van Wolfswinkel, Berbatov etc) and use my wildcard especially early to revert to what I want from there. I have no doubt a front trio of Soldado, Negredo and Bent will serve me extremely well this season, but perhaps they are not the best options to go with from the get go.
Maybe taking a chance on Aspas up front instead of Bent for Liverpool coverage and using the Coutinho £9.0m on someone else would be better. Decisions, decisions.....
Sorry for the long post but I thought I'd post out my thinking to hopefully help others and give some ideas behind my thinking to get better advice.
What do you think and how could/should I improve? I'd be especially interested to hear your opinions on the strikeforce. Thanks.
Very similar to my non RVP draft - the area you've highlighted is the difference - Strikers, I have Bony and Berbatov which you've also earmarked as possibles. I like the idea of starting with the only main point getters up front for their respective clubs, ie Soldado, Berbatov (Fulham without Bent) and Bony. That's just me playing a little safe maybe. Starting with Negredo, Dzeko or Lukaku etc worries me due to playing minutes, could bite me big time though in the opening weeks. I also have a 4.5 back up keeper instead of Davis (beware of him dropping to 3.9 in opening weeks possibly) and a 5m midfielder instead of Thomas - Kim or Koren or Brady. For the 4m defenders, I have Brayford and Chester at the moment, maybe more assured starters than Parr, hard to know yet though0 -
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First draft....
Opinions?
I'd swap Clichy for Zabaleta, both cost 6m and Zabaleta is more of an attacking threat. I'd swap Distin for Coleman, again same price but Coleman has more attacking threat. I'd swap out Coloccini because he seems to be sent off in every other game and I'd probably bring in Bassong for the same price. I would probably trade Cabaye out for Snodgrass as well, I'd also think about trading Silva for Fellaini to give you an extra 0.5m to upgrade another position.0 -
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OneColdHand wrote: »Genius! If you make him captain you are bound to rake in the points!!
Could take out Walcott and put in Hazard 0 -
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I cannot stand Darren Bent but I learnt very quickly not to let your heart rule your head in this game, and Bent has a record that far exceeds his £6.5m price tag. 24 and 17 goals the last two seasons he was first choice with 9 as a bit part player the following year thanks to injury/selection issues, and if his Fulham move materialises as it seems 99% sure it will, he will play every week with Berbatov in the number 10 role behind him, which is sure to bring about numerous chances, and Bent has made his living off finishing goalscoring chances.
Where are you getting these numbers from? According to his stats on the site he scored 3 goals last season, and 9 goals the season before..
Edit: ESPN saying he scored 8 and 21..
Edit: Wikipedia saying 3 and 9..
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Jax Teller wrote: »He clearly states when Bent was first choice which he wasn't last season but was the in 11/12 and only scored 10 goals all season .
oopsies
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I'm very happy with how Amazeballs turned out.. I've got a very attacking mentality going on with very little money being invested in the back.. I think this is my final draft unless there are some surprise transfers..
Goalkeepers
Originally had Mignolet (5.5) and Boruc (4.5) but since Cech had the DGW I decided to work around him instead. I think after GW1 I will take him out in favour of Mignolet or Jaaskeleinen to save 1.0. I'm leaning a bit towards Jaaskeleinen as Liverpool will be up against United in GW2.
Defenders
Not much to say. Mertesacker and Zabaleta both likely to see plenty of clean sheets and are valued very nicely. Coleman could work out a great bargain.. He should score plenty of points this season since he is actually classed as a defender this time around. Could be the new Baines.
Midfielders
Hazard and Wallcott and self explanatory really. You can't not have them! Mirallas and Coutinho are my gambles. Coutinho scored a nice number points last season compared to minutes played but still unsure if he jusitifies his 9.0 price tag. Michu was in his place originally but since Swansea have some pretty difficult games in the first few weeks i felt it was best to leave him out. Mirallas seems to be favoured nicely around here so I'm taking yer advice and putting him in.
Strikers
Lukaku is in there for the DGW and then we will see what happens. I enjoyed watching him at West Brom last season and after the display he put on against United in the last game of the Season I'm expecting plenty of goals from him as well. Soldado has a very nice goal scoring record and can imagine him popping them in left right and centre this season especially since Tottenham strengthened their midfield significantly. Definitely one to watch. My third striker left me a bit confused. I had Dzeko in there, and even though Pellegrini came out and said Dzeko is my main man I just don't feel confident that he will play constantly. When they have Aguero who was unbelievable last season, and now Negredo whose stats speak for themselves (25 goals last season in 36 appearances!).. Too much rotation going on there unless they're planning on 3 up front.. which is a scary thought.. :eek: Then I was thinking Berba but Fulham have some difficult games and if they sign Bent, and it looks like they will.. Berba will struggle.. My gamble here is the wolf.. Should definitely be playing every game and there is plenty of Hype going on around him as well.. We'll see how it plays out
Players to keep an eye on
As mentioned above.. United has an abundance of wingers in their squad.. I think Nani is one to watch at 7.5 - I have a strong feeling we're going to see a revitalised Nani this season under Moyes, and that is exciting. Can see him getting 160+ points this season if he becomes a regular.
If Rooney ends up leaving OT then Kagawa will be playing in his regular position. That is a very exciting thought to see Kagawa play the way he played at Dortmund. Can see him being one of the top midfielders in the league next season if he's allowed space in the centre. If, like last season, he is pushed onto the wing then I'll pass him up.
Zaha had a fantastic preseason. He is genuinely exciting to watch behind the ball and plays with his heart on his sleeve. However, I just cant see him making the first team squad ahead of Nani / Kaga / Rooney. Again, if Rooney leaves I would definitely look at including him. I would consider him better than the other choices available.
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Amazeballs
Almost identical to my current line up!
I thought about it and after going through a few team variations it looks like RVP is just not worth it for the start of the season.
I'd get rid of Baker - I currently have Ben Turner in that position but this will likely swap to whatever £4m defender looks best before next Saturday. Midfield is identical, although I have Koren on the bench while you have Thomas. Dikgacoi is a better bet here at the same price range imo.
Strikeforce is where we differ - I currently have Lukaku, Bony and Dzeko. You have Lukaku, Soldado and RVW. Strangley enough, if I bring in Soldado I will also bring in RVW, so our teams will be identical.
I don't think there's much between them, but to afford Soldado I need to downgrade Koren (who i think is a bargain at £5m), get rid of Dzeko (who is apparently #1, and City have a cracking starting run), and sacrifice my sub keeper to a £4m non player, something I have no issue doing if the reward outweighs the risk.
The question is - Does Soldado represent a £1.5m bigger investment than Bony? Spurs definitely have the easier fixtures to start, but Bony has a cracking record and has been banging them in for Swansea pre-season. If the season started this Saturday (and Bale had already left), this is likely the only decision I would have to make.
The other option is to downgrade Dzeko to Anelka (who has been banging them in pre-season including a hat-trick earlier this week) and use the extra cash to upgrade Koren to Zaha, giving me a 5-man midfield. This is obviously higher risk.0 -
Almost identical to my current line up!
I thought about it and after going through a few team variations it looks like RVP is just not worth it for the start of the season.
I'd get rid of Baker - I currently have Ben Turner in that position but this will likely swap to whatever £4m defender looks best before next Saturday. Midfield is identical, although I have Koren on the bench while you have Thomas. Dikgacoi is a better bet here at the same price range imo.
Strikeforce is where we differ - I currently have Lukaku, Bony and Dzeko. You have Lukaku, Soldado and RVW. Strangley enough, if I bring in Soldado I will also bring in RVW, so our teams will be identical.
I don't think there's much between them, but to afford Soldado I need to downgrade Koren (who i think is a bargain at £5m), get rid of Dzeko (who is apparently #1, and City have a cracking starting run), and sacrifice my sub keeper to a £4m non player, something I have no issue doing if the reward outweighs the risk.
The question is - Does Soldado represent a £1.5m bigger investment than Bony? Spurs definitely have the easier fixtures to start, but Bony has a cracking record and has been banging them in for Swansea pre-season. If the season started this Saturday (and Bale had already left), this is likely the only decision I would have to make.
The other option is to downgrade Dzeko to Anelka (who has been banging them in pre-season including a hat-trick earlier this week) and use the extra cash to upgrade Koren to Zaha, giving me a 5-man midfield. This is obviously higher risk.
I just put Baker in there because he seemed to be one of the only 4.0 defenders that has played a decent amount of minutes. By no means is he a definite selection. Someone should put together a list of the cheaper defenders that are playing There are plenty of arguably better choices in that position, as you said.
I had Dzeko but couldn't take the gamble when I knew the Wolf would definitely play. He may not score as highly, but he is almost guaranteed a full 90 minutes. Although I am sure Dzeko will play, I just had a niggling feeling in my mind that he needed to be dropped for security. As for Bony - I didn't want to take too many gambles on 'unproven' players. He looks great though but I felt better about Soldado. Keep in mind Tottenham also improved their midfield significantly as is. Soldado should do well in my opinion, especially in the first few weeks considering Swansea's fixtures list. It was hard to stomach the price difference but I am confident in my selections. The 1.5 would only be going towards my bench / defensive line anyway.0 -
I just put Baker in there because he seemed to be one of the only 4.0 defenders that has played a decent amount of minutes. By no means is he a definite selection. Someone should put together a list of the cheaper defenders that are playing There are plenty of arguably better choices in that position, as you said.
I had Dzeko but couldn't take the gamble when I knew the Wolf would definitely play. He may not score as highly, but he is almost guaranteed a full 90 minutes. Although I am sure Dzeko will play, I just had a niggling feeling in my mind that he needed to be dropped for security. As for Bony - I didn't want to take too many gambles on 'unproven' players. He looks great though but I felt better about Soldado. Keep in mind Tottenham also improved their midfield significantly as is. Soldado should do well in my opinion, especially in the first few weeks considering Swansea's fixtures list. It was hard to stomach the price difference but I am confident in my selections. The 1.5 would only be going towards my bench / defensive line anyway.
Yeah I made the 'Watchlist' thread for that reason but it's hard to pick any £4m players yet - we should have a better idea by next week.
Dzeko has a really good record in front of goal - when he gets a chance. Maybe Pellegrini is willing to give him a few games at the start to prove himself? That's all I need tbh, then I can swap him for Berbs/RVW etc. See second team below with Soldado. Very similar to yours but with Dzeko in for RVW. The only issue here being, if Bony starts off well I'll struggle to get him in unless I replace Soldado. Also based on new info I think I might risk Hart/Terry over Cech/Zab.
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Value 98.5m, Bank 1.5m
Cech in goal for the DGW, He'll probably move to Harte before GW3, but I have Boruc as a first choice back-up if needed, depending how Cech plays. Also considering De Gea once United's opening fixtures settle down as they get a lovely run after the storm.
I've got an opening back-three of Mertesacker, Coleman (May swap to Collins) and Lugano who each play AVL, NOR and SOU respectively.
My midfield is my strongest area, with Mirallas, Walcott, Hazard and Coutinho all big names. I've also gone with Tonev for the DGW as he should play in the hole behind Benteke and Wiemann. He can easily become Brady/Koren for GW2.
Soldado and Lukaku are up-front. Lukaku, for the DGW, should become Bony after Swansea's fixtures settle down. I'm also unsure on Soldado, not because of his ability, but because of the lack of ability in Spurs overall. A Bale-less Spurs is hardly as big a threat.
Benched is Boruc, Anelka, Collins and Chester.
I think this gives me a decent cover of the top teams, bar United. RVP will start, but is priced out at 14m, and with Moyes in charge, the final starting 11 isn't set in stone yet. Nani/Zaha/Kagawa are all excellent value if they play a consistent and regular 90mins. If Kagawa is handed the CAM position in the hole behind RVP, he'll be in that midfield in a heartbeat.
May consider something like this after the DGW.
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I'm trying to make my team as balanced as possible, I'd love to accommodate RVP but at 14m it's been difficult. Depending on the Bale situation I may change it up but after what seems like my 15th draft this is what I'm going with.
GK
Mignolet I think is a no brainer, decent fixtures and a defensively solid team in front of him with a decent and cheap rotation option of Boruc who represents value and is playing for a team with decent potential this year.
Defense
Terry, DGW and no international football will hopefully mean he gets both games which Chelsea should win and hopefully not concede in.
Kosecielny, if he can stay injury free then he is a bargain at 5.5 and with a more than decent first 8 fixtures, clean sheets should be a regular occurrence.
Toure, somewhat of a risk but if he is first choice for Liverpool then 5m is a good price for the opening weeks of the season at the least.
Coleman, will be invited to attack so there should be points value there. If Everton can retain the solidity they had under Moyes and apply it to Martinez' system then he should good for his 5.5m pricetag.
Clyne, will get forward in an attacking team, cheap but first choice and in a team that has potential to do well this season.
Midfield
Hazard, regardless of DGW I'd have Hazard in the team. Should get plenty of points throughout the season.
Mirallas, forward listed as a midfielder in an attacking team at that price is great option to have.
Walcott, similar to Mirallas but with a higher potential for points with the team he has around him and the increased importance he has for Arsenal since RVP left.
Brady, cheap option who should pick up points and hopefully remain first choice for Hull throughout the season. Assists and goals will probably be at a level that makes the 5m price more than worth the punt.
Morrison, risky but very talented young player who has shone in pre season and has a manager that isn't afraid of playing youth.
Attack
Aguero, injuries hampered him last season. I sense a hugely productive season for him this year.
Berbatov, first choice and will pick up a serious amount of points playing as the focal point of the team.
Sturridge, third Liverpool player gets in as he is first choice and looking at the opening few weeks of the season makes me think that there are goals to be had for Liverpool and Sturridge should get the majority of the chances.
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