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Burying our dead.

  • 04-08-2013 05:39AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Why don't we bury them upright?plots would be smaller and cheaper and councils would save money on new graveyards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I've been on my feet all my life, can I not have a lie-in once I'm dead ffs?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭The Narrator


    Why do we bury them at all?

    In the distant future those graveyards are going to be prime real estate, as there will be too many people and not enough land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Why do we bury them at all?

    In the distant future those graveyards are going to be prime real estate, as there will be too many people and not enough land.

    We know where that leads....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Why do we bury them at all?

    In the distant future those graveyards are going to be prime real estate, as there will be too many people and not enough land.

    So you think the graveyards will be ploughed up and houses built on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    You know life isn't easy, you put up with a lot. It wears you down the day to day grind and the many emotional issues you encounter.

    When it comes to the end you deserve to be laid to rest in a traditional six foot grave. You earned that plot.

    There's no issue with space in graveyards in this country, believe me it will never become a problem. More land will be bought up for the purpose. Nobody will deny the dead their resting place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    You know life isn't easy, you put up with a lot. It wears you down the day to day grind and the many emotional issues you encounter.

    When it comes to the end you deserve to be laid to rest in a traditional six foot grave. You earned that plot.

    There's no issue with space in graveyards in this country, believe me it will never become a problem. More land will be bought up for the purpose. Nobody will deny the dead their resting place.

    And pay well for it as well, grave plots ain't cheap to buy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Why do we bury them at all?

    In the distant future those graveyards are going to be prime real estate, as there will be too many people and not enough land.

    Well they tend to get a bit smelly if you don't. Also, people don't really care about saving money for the economy when they're alive, even less so when they're dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    And pay well for it as well, grave plots ain't cheap to buy.

    Yes and of course many go to the family plot. I know from experience Dublin has some crazy prices for graveyard real estate, the solicitor who the person made their will with usually takes care of the plot and undertaker fees at a later date with funds from the estate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Wont bother me I'm being cremated when the time comes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    We shouldn't be buried at all.

    Haven't humans used enough of the world's resources when alive, yet many still want to continue to take space when they die.

    Ridicules goolish, selfish practice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Chinasea wrote: »
    We shouldn't be buried at all.

    Haven't humans used enough of the world's resources when alive, yet many still want to continue to take space when they die.

    Ridicules goolish, selfish practice.

    Resources my arse, the Earth went through many extremes before we came about. At the risk of sounding like Carlin how arrogant do you have to be to think that we've had any meanigful impact on this planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    At the risk of sounding like Carlin how arrogant do you have to be to think that we've had any meanigful impact on this planet.

    Height of HUMAN arrogance to want to take up space when you're dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    So you think the graveyards will be ploughed up and houses built on them?

    I'd reckon that a surprising amount of our own houses are built on grave sites from the past...
    Exponential population growth probably suggests that that will again be the case sooner or later.

    To be honest I think our traditional style of burial is a bit of a mad ritual to have persisted for so long.
    I know most people probably don't see it this way, but personally I sorta feel weird and slightly uneasy with the idea of continuously visiting a gradually decaying box of bones.
    I'll keep my memories and that's enough for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    I fancy a sky burrial like the monks way up in the Himalayas.

    Cut up the body and leave it for the vultures.

    though round here it'd be rats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    I'd reckon that a surprising amount of our own houses are built on grave sites from the past...
    Exponential population growth probably suggests that that will again be the case sooner or later.

    To be honest I think our traditional style of burial is a bit of a mad ritual to have persisted for so long.
    I know most people probably don't see it this way, but personally I sorta feel weird and slightly uneasy with the idea of continuously visiting a gradually decaying box of bones.
    I'll keep my memories and that's enough for me.

    Different for a widow or widower who has been with their partner there entire life or a family mourning the death of a young family member. Visiting a grave can be very helpful and give them somewhere to express their grief.

    But ya i want to be fired out of a canon into the sea with a cape on. Let me rest with the fishes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I shall be burnt and my ashes spread over my favourite places in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    So you think the graveyards will be ploughed up and houses built on them?

    I saw a movie about that once

    It didn't end well

    Poltergeist I think it was called

    Based on a true story ........ :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    realies wrote: »
    I shall be burnt and my ashes spread over my favourite places in the world.

    And your going to leave the money to fund such a burial with who?

    I want to be buried at sea. I want so so e to dig a hole in the water and put me in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    I fancy a sky burrial like the monks way up in the Himalayas.

    Cut up the body and leave it for the vultures.

    though round here it'd be rats.


    I had a business idea based on that - was going to get my self a bunch of cute vultures.

    Rent some land up one of our many mountain ranges and offer this service

    then I though I possibly might get some objections. - can you imagine the odd passing motorists being scarred witless as a passing vulture accidenuly drops an arm on your windscreen!

    Planning permission might be abut tough too I reckon - I still like vultures though :D

    Burrying is overrated imo anyway the other solution that kinda solves everything is just two words


    SOYLENT GREEN

    now that's the ecological way to go....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    I want to be buried in one of those green cemeteries and in essence become a tree.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I want to be buried in one of those green cemeteries and in essence become a tree.

    And further down the road you could become a plank and get made into a coffin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    mattjack wrote: »
    And further down the road you could become a plank and get made into a coffin.

    Or kindling for a cremation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Zab


    Resources my arse, the Earth went through many extremes before we came about. At the risk of sounding like Carlin how arrogant do you have to be to think that we've had any meanigful impact on this planet.

    Depends what you mean by "meaningful". We can an will impact on the planet in a way that will affect humans. Obviously we'll have little to no impact in the cosmic sense.

    That said, I would imagine that letting people decompose under ground is actually more energy efficient than burning them. I don't know about when you stick in a fancy coffin and headstone though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    Having worked as an archaeologist I can tell you most people are dug up for roads not houses. So that 5 minute you now save Ennis to Galway I had to help dig up 130 skeletons from 1000AD. No one is safe from development.

    If you don't approve of burial, let your family know, respect other people's right to. Other cultures have their own thing, ours is either bury or cremation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    kneemos wrote: »
    Why don't we bury them upright?plots would be smaller and cheaper and councils would save money on new graveyards.

    It's already done in Australia for one. Has been the last couple of years, at least in some parts due to space concerns.
    You freeze the body and slide it in.........sort of like a reverse ice-pop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Or kindling for a cremation.

    Isn't creamation Gas.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    wolfpawnat wrote: »
    Having worked as an archaeologist I can tell you most people are dug up for roads not houses. So that 5 minute you now save Ennis to Galway I had to help dig up 130 skeletons from 1000AD. No one is safe from development.

    If you don't approve of burial, let your family know, respect other people's right to. Other cultures have their own thing, ours is either bury or cremation.

    I thought snails were safe from developers in Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Satts


    realies wrote: »
    I shall be burnt and my ashes spread over my favourite places in the world.

    Wouldn't that create a large carbon foot print ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    galwayrush wrote: »
    I thought snails were safe from developers in Clare.

    Well I worked the N18 road and the snails may have been safe, but 1000 year old remains were not!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I want to be buried in one of those green cemeteries and in essence become a tree.
    Me too. I used to want to be cremated, but then I thought about the pollution, and I quite like the idea that I could be dug up in 500 years and put in a museum :)


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