What gave Gaybo the right to be condescending to a single mother on The Late Late

TheLastMohican · 03-08-2013 06:11PM #1

"I hope his son will be half the man his father was", was Gay's parting salvo to Annie Murphy, the former lover of arch-hypocrite Bishop Eamon Casey. And got a massive round of applause from the audience.
Did this include Casey's fleeing from the cops in the Bayswater/Queensway area of West London, a notorious red light district, and subsequent arrest? And did it include his ignoring his vows, fathering a child, stealing money from his employers etc among other notable deeds?
Gaybo, if you're reading this, how about an explanation?

Nodin · 03-08-2013 06:13PM

Decades of being a patriarchal church dominated society/ he was caseys mate.

Christ the Redeemer · 03-08-2013 06:14PM

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

kneemos · 03-08-2013 06:15PM

Did you escape from a time capsule?

Frank Black · 03-08-2013 06:15PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

Give us examples.

gordongekko · 03-08-2013 06:16PM

What year did I wake up in?

jjpep · 03-08-2013 06:19PM

Gaybo was a condescending prick to everyone.

kneemos · 03-08-2013 06:21PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

A bit unfair,the op may not have the power,influence or money of the church behind him.

mad muffin · 03-08-2013 06:21PM

kneemos wrote: »

Did you escape from a time capsule?

Was just about to post this. :pac:

Wanderer2010 · 03-08-2013 06:22PM

What was it that Annie said in return to that, I remember it was a famous remark something like "or even like me, Im not that bad either" but im not 100% sure. And she was right to say it, it was at a time when the church ruled.

AllGunsBlazing · 03-08-2013 06:28PM

That show was a real ambush by Gaybo. Never thought much of him to begin with and even less of him after that.

Zen65 · 03-08-2013 06:29PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Did this include Casey's fleeing from the cops in the Bayswater/Queensway area of West London, a notorious red light district, and subsequent arrest? And did it include his ignoring his vows, fathering a child, stealing money from his employers etc among other notable deeds?

Casey was a hypocrite, as many (if not most) religious clerics are. On the other hand, the rules under which clerics are expected to live are unnaturally restrictive, even harmful to the human spirit, so I cannot fault him for failing to be celebate. As far as we know, Casey never abused a minor. He used church funds to support his child, and while it was wrong of him to take the money, I rather prefer to think his son got it than have that money go to the church's bank account. Other clerics had children and then abandoned them. Casey (as far as I know) ensured his child was provided for, but kept his existence hidden.

The other side to him was that he did a lot of work for the poor in society. He was a voice on their behalf, and in those times that was very much needed.

So yes, he was deeply flawed, as are we all, but he did some good for others, which we cannot all claim. This is probably all that Gay meant. Was he being condescending? I don't know. I watched the programme when it went out live and I thought it was a strange comment, possibly meant well ("your son comes from good stock") but coming across as if to say "let's not speak all bad about the bishop".

Personally I have to admit I never liked the man (Casey), and took unreasonable pleasure in seeing him exposed for what he was!!

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Conmaicne Mara · 03-08-2013 06:29PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

Jesus would be so proud of you.

galwayrush · 03-08-2013 06:30PM

The saga of two cousins in lust continues.

michael999999 · 03-08-2013 06:32PM

In fairness id rather priests riding women, than raping kids.

Don't see what the problem.is!

TheLastMohican · 03-08-2013 06:34PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

Obviously your crown of thorns has caused a few TIAs. At least we'll take that excuse for your going off topic.

MJ23 · 03-08-2013 06:35PM

Greybo is a patronising fart. Who cares what he thinks?
I automatically change station whenever I hear or see him.

kneemos · 03-08-2013 06:38PM

MJ23 wrote: »

Greybo is a patronising fart. Who cares what he thinks?
I automatically change station whenever I hear or see him.

First time I saw him wearing a crevat I kinda went off the guy.

TheLastMohican · 03-08-2013 06:40PM

michael999999 wrote: »

In fairness id rather priests riding women, than raping kids.

Don't see what the problem.is!

The problem was Gaybo's smarmy remark to a lady who had experienced the harrowing mores of a latter day society. Why did this jumped up tosser take it upon himself to further insult her?

Manach · 03-08-2013 06:46PM

Typical AH anti-Catholic whinging against a Church that has been a stabilising factor in Ireland, railing so much against the somewhat hyped up tyrannies of the past (and ignoring the State's own separate issue). If a tithe the effort was placed in combating Ireland's current issues we'd not be in the state we are now in.

calanus · 03-08-2013 06:49PM

Manach wrote: »

railing so much against the somewhat hyped up tyrannies of the past.....

Tell that to those who suffered through them..........

kneemos · 03-08-2013 06:51PM

Manach wrote: »

Typical AH anti-Catholic whinging against a Church that has been a stabilising factor in Ireland, railing so much against the somewhat hyped up tyrannies of the past (and ignoring the State's own separate issue). If a tithe the effort was placed in combating Ireland's current issues we'd not be in the state we are now in.

Stabilising in what way?and what hyped up tyrannies?

Fred Swanson · 03-08-2013 06:55PM

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Red Nissan · 03-08-2013 06:57PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

"I hope his son will be half the man his father was", was Gay's parting salvo to Annie Murphy, the former lover of arch-hypocrite Bishop Eamon Casey. And got a massive round of applause from the audience.
Did this include Casey's fleeing from the cops in the Bayswater/Queensway area of West London, a notorious red light district, and subsequent arrest? And did it include his ignoring his vows, fathering a child, stealing money from his employers etc among other notable deeds?
Gaybo, if you're reading this, how about an explanation?

When did this happen? Is this a very old post?

wendell borton · 03-08-2013 07:00PM

As bishops go casey wasn't the worst, that's not hard though, did a lot of good work over in London, worst thing he did though was to "rest" some diocese money in his account.

TheLastMohican · 03-08-2013 07:06PM

Red Nissan wrote: »

When did this happen? Is this a very old post?

Yes, it's 46 mins old. You see the trick is to read the time of the posting and deduct

Red Nissan · 03-08-2013 07:12PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

Regardless of his sexual "sins" Casey has probably achieved more in his life than you ever will.

No he did not, he was responsible for bringing hundreds of thousands to their senses and questioning their very faith and existence.

As with other clerics and non clerical do gooders, such as that fix it guy, the sins and anguish are never compensated for by the good they did as the good they were doing was in fact to make them feel better about living a lie in Casey's case, and much much worse in other cases.

The lie is the sin. Casey should have resigned, he exposed the fallacy of faith and not only committed his sin once, but multiple times and then denies his own flesh n blood and keeps the cover-up for years and years.

All those years he was not a minister, he was a fake or imposter, his blessings and sacraments were void and unlawful in the eyes of whom he professed to believe in.

Granted, he was not the worst, but in time it exposed the depravity and the depth of depravity that goes on to make that fix it guy look like a saint.

Duckworth_Luas · 03-08-2013 07:20PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

"I hope his son will be half the man his father was", was Gay's parting salvo to Annie Murphy

Judging by his photo in today's Irish Times he's now twice the man his father was!

TheLastMohican · 03-08-2013 07:22PM

Indulging in a bit of sizeism, are we?

Duckworth_Luas · 03-08-2013 07:23PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Indulging in a bit of sizeism, are we?

I think it was young Casey who was indulging in those giant size Toblerones!

Red Nissan · 03-08-2013 07:26PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

"I hope his son will be half the man his father was",

I don't think Gabo reads this, but the Irish Independent does so if you put up an intelligent argument you will make the cover or page three next Monday.

I was not a fan of the Late Late Show, I don't think anyone should have that much opinion power, new laws would have prevented that comment going to air.

But that was a long time ago and we could drink and drive then too, could we not, now Gabo is telling us not to do that anymore, and I'm sure most of us had forgotten about Casey and in particular the respect he was afforded. And Casey flaunted it too, he still turned up in Cork in Bishops Robes for a family wedding after he was defrocked or whatever happened to him, now that's arrogance, but people loved him, they still do.

IMO, they are in error.

What gave Gaybo the right to be condescending to a single mother on The Late Late

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