Uruguay to legalise marijuana

Sunnyisland · 01-08-2013 07:30AM #1

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/uruguay-set-to-legalise-marijuana-29464290.html

Uruguay has moved a step closer to becoming the first country in the world to create a legal marijuana industry in an attempt to fight organised crime.

Uruguay's government would license growers, sellers and consumers, and update a confidential registry to keep people from buying more than 40 grams a month. Carrying, growing or selling pot without a licence could bring prison terms, but licensed consumers could grow up to six plants at a time at home.

But critics warn that marijuana is a gateway drug and that fostering the market is playing with fire.

Don't smoke myself but it would be my opinion that this a move in the right direction as prohibition on cannabis just does not work and also for me anyway ,it takes vast profits away from organised crime gangs, hopefully more countries will follow.

Zascar · 01-08-2013 07:45AM

Meanwhile in Russia...

Banjo String · 01-08-2013 07:58AM

Karl Stein · 01-08-2013 08:15AM

The sooner the farcical prohibition of this plant is over the better.

There should be mass disobedience around the world. Thousands of stoners turning up in city centres to smoke weed with an army of ice-cream vans in hot pursuit.

Oranage2 · 01-08-2013 08:25AM

I remember when the occupy dame street was about I had a look around the camp, I could confidently say that all the protesters would be well experienced in cannabis usage.

Do people really want to turn Ireland into one big occupy movement full of stoners?

elefant · 01-08-2013 08:33AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I remember when the occupy dame street was about I had a look around the camp, I could confidently say that all the protesters would be well experienced in cannabis usage.

Do people really want to turn Ireland into one big occupy movement full of stoners?

You're right. Legalising weed and the inexorable drift towards living in tents would destroy the construction industry here. Save our economy; keep weed off the streets!

Karl Stein · 01-08-2013 08:39AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I could confidently say that all the protesters would be well experienced in cannabis usage.

No you couldn't.

Tipsy McSwagger · 01-08-2013 08:42AM

Should be legal to anyone who suffers from Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, Arthritis etc.

Oranage2 · 01-08-2013 08:45AM

elefant wrote: »

You're right. Legalising weed and the inexorable drift towards living in tents would destroy the construction industry here. Save our economy; keep weed off the streets!

Well I have plenty of other reasons too but anti cannabis on after hours is extremely drowned upon and I dont want to be putting my head on a chopping block.

Duck's hoop · 01-08-2013 08:52AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Do people really want to turn Ireland into one big occupy movement full of stoners?

Do you experience the world in stereotype and clichè? It seems you do.

Do yourself a favour and try to find out things for yourself. Instead of snootily judging those people, attributing to them what the establishment has taught you to believe, instead of looking, try talking.

And maybe get a life.

dublinbhoy88 · 01-08-2013 08:56AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I remember when the occupy dame street was about I had a look around the camp, I could confidently say that all the protesters would be well experienced in cannabis usage.

Do people really want to turn Ireland into one big occupy movement full of stoners?

better than a country of alcoholics that we have now..!

Oranage2 · 01-08-2013 08:59AM

dublinbhoy88 wrote: »

better than a country of alcoholics that we have now..!

Two wrongs don't make a right.

F35 · 01-08-2013 09:00AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Two wrongs don't make a right.

exactly.

studiorat · 01-08-2013 09:01AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Should be legal to anyone who suffers from Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, Arthritis etc.

Why?

Leftist · 01-08-2013 09:03AM

ireland is about 50 years behind the rest of the western world when it comes to education about drugs.

I remember in the late 90s having guests into our secondary school to teach us about how marajuana is a 'stepping stone drug', can cause hallucinations and criminal behaviour. Can destroy lives and tear families apart.

Then you realised the adults were lying.

There are too many cardigan wearing, priest bothering fussy shams who are more interested in closing down head shops, protesting against abortion legislation and moaning about immigrants. These clowns will hold us all back.

You still get the national media reporting in crime cases that the accussed had 'used marajuana' before attacking the victim ffs

studiorat · 01-08-2013 09:07AM

Leftist wrote: »

You still get the national media reporting in crime cases that the accussed had 'used marajuana' before attacking the victim ffs

You just made that up. There is no national media. Show us one of these "crime cases" that you're on about.

Leftist · 01-08-2013 09:14AM

studiorat wrote: »

You just made that up. There is no national media. Show us one of "crime cases" that you're on about.

No national media?

I think maybe you were trying too hard to be smart without pausing to think.

Artful_Badger · 01-08-2013 09:17AM

realies wrote: »

Don't smoke myself but it would be my opinion that this a move in the right direction as prohibition on cannabis just does not work and also for me anyway ,it takes vast profits away from organised crime gangs, hopefully more countries will follow.

Would it though ? Wouldnt is be the organised crime gangs moving into legal business and using them to sell more than marijuana just like what happened with head shops here ?

studiorat · 01-08-2013 09:50AM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Would it though ? Wouldnt is be the organised crime gangs moving into legal business and using them to sell more than marijuana just like what happened with head shops here ?

I missed that. What happened in the head shops here?

studiorat · 01-08-2013 09:59AM

Leftist wrote: »

No national media?

I think maybe you were trying too hard to be smart without pausing to think.

Show us the national media and your makey-uppy stories.

dublinbhoy88 · 01-08-2013 10:04AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Nothing wrong with a bit of weed,anybody who wants to keep it illegal needs professional help

Leftist · 01-08-2013 10:14AM

studiorat wrote: »

Show us the national media and your makey-uppy stories.

The pre-sentencing hearing for Luke Wentholt, the man who murdered Irishman David Greene during a party in Melbourne in August last year, was held in the Victorian Supreme Court today.

Wentholt, who had been drinking .. and smoking cannabis...before repeatedly stomping on

Just one example.

Odd that someone would suggest that reporting use of cannabis in criminal reports is made up?

really, really odd and peculiar.

Artful_Badger · 01-08-2013 10:16AM

studiorat wrote: »

I missed that. What happened in the head shops here?

I dont know if it happened in all of them but I recall a lot of them being mentioned as selling everything with a nudge and a wink. There was also a few I recall who were drove out of business and one iirc burned out. The criminal gangs that controlled the drugs didnt take kindly to the sale of bath salts eating into their business.

These gangs wont bow out gracefully and will try get in on what they believe to be a move on their territory. If they get influence on the business you know it wont stop at a bit of weed, if they dont get influence you can bet they will do their best to disrupt business, steal the products and bully those who try to set up these shops. The amount of crime might not disappear it might just shift.

I'm not saying its impossible and I'm not against legalisation but it is going to be a battle for territory with existing drug gangs. I'd imagine down in South America there would be a lot of people involved in drugs too so it wont be as simple as legalising it and watching all the pieces fall into place.

BrendaN_f · 01-08-2013 10:19AM

Leftist wrote: »

Just one example.

Odd that someone would suggest that reporting use of cannabis in criminal reports is made up? really, really odd and peculiar.

more that implicating cannabis in the crime makes as much sense as mentioning that he had a cup of coffee prior to the incident.. which would be an odd thing to report indeed

Leftist · 01-08-2013 10:20AM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I'd imagine down in South America there would be a lot of people involved in drugs too

interesting... i did not know this.

Play To Kill · 01-08-2013 10:20AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Do people really want to turn Ireland into one big occupy movement full of stoners?

Do you honestly think there will be an increase in usage just because it's legal?

Leftist · 01-08-2013 10:23AM

BrendaN_f wrote: »

more that implicating cannabis in the crime makes as much sense as mentioning that he had a cup of coffee prior to the incident.. which would be an odd thing to report indeed

100% agreed.

They wouldn't need to mention it if they felt it was unrelated. Only a moron would suggest it has not been mistakenly associated with criminal behaviour.

01-08-2013 10:34AM

I have never smoked marijuana, but it's my own personal choice. Know many others who have and the only effect I've ever seen on them is that they feel a little lazy. Nothing wrong with that. It's completely silly that it's still banned. Can you imagine how quickly we would be out of recession if it was legalized and taxed? I really hope it proves successful in Uruguay, it might hopefully lead to other countries doing the same.

studiorat · 01-08-2013 10:36AM

Leftist wrote: »

100% agreed.

They wouldn't need to mention it if they felt it was unrelated. Only a moron would suggest it has not been mistakenly associated with criminal behaviour.

If you actually quoted the article properly and weren't so intent on twisting the truth you'd see that the cannabis was mixed with other drugs.
Only a moron would misquote the Irish Times too I suppose.

01-08-2013 10:41AM

studiorat wrote: »

If you actually quoted the article properly and weren't so intent on twisting the truth you'd see that the cannabis was mixed with other drugs.
Only a moron would misquote the Irish Times too I suppose.

Yes, but that's like saying a person drank water during a drinking alcohol binge that ultimately ended up in a hit and run.

Artful_Badger · 01-08-2013 10:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, but that's like saying a person drank water during a drinking alcohol binge that ultimately ended up in a hit and run.

No its not, weed isnt a big deal but its not water, it has an affect on you. Its not absurd to mention an illegal substance when mixed with Beer, Vodka and Whiskey (which are also fine in moderation btw) in relation to some lunatic jumping on peoples heads. The fact of this story was this scumbag was loaded on all sorts and didnt act like a rational human being. Which is what the papers reported.

Uruguay to legalise marijuana

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